Department of Public Works employee Eric Batman claims that having to see a Progress Pride flag flying outside the department’s Alhambra, California, headquarters during the month of June effectively forces him to “celebrate, recognize, and solemnize conduct and actions that he views as sin” in conflict with his sincerely held Christian religious beliefs, according to a lawsuit filed in March by anti-LGBTQ+ evangelical nonprofit the Liberty Counsel.
Oh if he wins this is going to be amazing. Personally I don’t like having to walk past my bosses tacky personalised number plate, can I sue for that?
And not a single person has complained about being “forced” to see all the churches he also goes past.
I have complained about that. I just didn’t file a lawsuit…
Welp, now you have your
missionpurpose in life.
This is one of those rare paradox for me. I truly hate religion. Yet, I hold lots of respect and even amazement at some of the religious architecture.
It’s truly amazing what people can achieve when they want to. Too bad it’s done in service of bigoted ignorance.
Whenever I see incredible religious structures, the emotion after amazement is sadness, because what if all that effort were put toward something productive?
So yes, but also this is slightly different than that. It’s about the department itself flying the flag. Still absolutely insane, but slightly less insane than that. The end result, if this person wins, is literally no flags or any other messaging. “My religion doesn’t support nationalism.” This would also include extreme stances like “my religion doesn’t support the periodic table” or things like that.
I see your point, but now I’m thinking about how cool a periodic table flag would be.
Waiting for the precedent so the Church of Satan can abuse the fuck out of it to start forcing churches into seclusion
That’s the satanic temple, but i take your point
Has he considered reading the Bible and following the teachings of Jesus Christ? It might help him understand what Christianity is supposed to be about.
Do you really think they are reading their book?
Also which one? They’ll pick the one that most fits what they want.
If they are reading anything but the new testament then it is just a history lesson.
Which translation, which interpretation? It’s hard to say the New Testament is a single work with just one commonly understood message.
It might help him understand what Christianity is supposed to be about.
Don’t bother. Satan will claim his own soon enough. In the meantime, resist.
But Jesus it too woke and gay for Reighwing Christians
Most self-described Christians are Devil worshipers. If your religion preaches hate, you’re not worshiping God, you’re worshiping Satan.
It’s very simple. We’ll get rid of the pride flags as soon as they get rid of all the crosses. Fair is fair, after all.
The fucking crosses, man.
You think Jesus ever would want to see another cross again?
Dude wouldn’t be able to take Public Transit in Boston.
If Jesus came back he probably wouldn’t even use the letter “t”.
Imagine resurrecting into a world full of people wearing crosses with you nailed to them all just acting like it’s not fucked
Then you go to church and see them eat your flesh and blood.
To be fair, that one he said to do
Cannibal death cults man, they be fucked.
thats why theres the angels to clear everything out when the time comes.
The funny part is that they aren’t even historically accurate crosses. The cross was more like a capital T. The upright post was buried in the ground like a fence pole, with a square peg carved at the top. The actual cross part was just the crossbar, with a matching square hole carved in it. The crossbar was lifted up and set on top of that peg.
The square peg likely only stuck out an inch or two from the top of the T, and that was mostly just to make it more durable, as the peg wore down with use but burying the posts was a labor intensive process. They didn’t want to bury a new post for every single crucifixion, so they made the posts reusable and just swapped out the crossbars.
When Jesus carried his cross to Calvary, he was only carrying the top of the T. But over time, to distinguish it from the capital T, Christians started using the modern cross with the accentuated peg, and it eventually morphed into the modern cross that we all recognize today.
to distinguish it from the capital T
Huh, I would’ve assumed they were trying to distinguish it from Thor’s hammer.
That brings a whole new dimension to the T, but you know what, after being subjected to the green line more than a few times it entirely makes sense.
Jesus talkking to Peter after the rapture: “Yeah, got all of them, except those antichristians who celebrate my death with crosses. No way I’m bring those sick weirdos up here.”
Snowflake much?
I want to sue Eric Batman’s parents, or whoever the fuck decided on that dogshit name.
Hate to break it to you, but they got killed by a mugger.
Eric Batman
I’M NOT GAY.
I’m suing my employer because it rained today and I saw a rainbow.
disgusting.
A few of my muslim students said that they couldn’t draw a rainbow in art class, “because in our religion this is a bad thing”.
I asked them “but are not all of nature’s wonders the work of Allah?” While I watched the gears rolling behind their eyes I told them to ask their imams “who makes the rainbows in the sky?”. And that they may return their given assignments after having received the answer.
So they can take down the flag but that means no Easter decorations or Christmas decorations and definitely canceling the Christmas holiday because I don’t want to be forced to celebrate your beliefs you weak twat.
lmao cry about it idiot
pride is unstoppable 💜💛🤍🩷🩵🤎🖤❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I assume this is an effort to create another suit that will get all the way to SCOTUS so that white Christian nationalists get yet another carve-out of everyone else’s civil liberties.
His name is Batman? What a waste!
But also, I kind of (notice my emphasis) understand where he’s coming from. A member of LGBTQIA+ wouldn’t want the Christian flag on that government building during the month of the celebration of their savior’s birth, so I understand that he wouldn’t want LGBTQIA+ flag on that same building during Pride month. Honestly, government buildings should only fly that government’s flags (whether country, territory, district, etc.), and should not fly any other flag (no matter the cause).
Christians have their own flag?
As a member of LGBTQIA+, i may or may not like to see a flag on a government building, but ultimately how could it affect me so much that my personal rights were violated?? that’s nonsense to me. i don’t think any harm would be done to fly a lgbtq flag, or a christian flag, or any non-political flag occasionally to support and promote inclusion of various communities
Holy homophobia Batman! It’s 1984 and the Big Gay shoves gay frogs down a christian throat! Should’ve sued his maker for making him a whiney tool with pretty offending vibes of one another cross-cluthing mass shooter.
I know I’m probably bucking the hive mind here, but I would actually support legislation that government owned building can fly only city, state, and country flags. I’m completely in on making sure that government policies are inclusive and protective of those needing them, but flags just seem performative. In fact, they could be counter productive; flying them “in support” while policies do not.
Which cities, states and countries can a building fly? Only their own? Could a federal building raise a flag for another nation in solidarity, even if support for said nation is polarizing? Flags are performative, but knowing what is allowed to be performed can be a good indicator for marginalized groups to know where they might be okay living, even if policies are quite there yet.
In my world, no. A government building flys the flags associated with it. While it’s easy to be on the side of a federal building flying the flag of Ukraine, or one state flying the flag of another going through a tragic event, supporting that would also allow government buildings to fly the Israeli flag, or the confederate flag or a MAGA flag. You don’t think that confederate sympathizers in the south would claim to be marginalized and the confederate flag flying at the Mississippi statehouse would make them feel welcome? It’s a knife that cuts both ways.
I want marginalized people to feel welcome in their communities, but I don’t believe the flagpole of a government building is where to do it. The floor of the government building is.
Agreed. Plus a legal precedent in favor of pride flags, could cut the other way. On principle, I don’t want to see hateful sentiment yield a legal victory. In practice, disallowing this kind of expression in government facilities would/should keep MAGA flags and other nonsense far from the same flagpoles. Or at the very least, it could be argued so in a second court case.
Why should the law treat these things as the same though? If the law is blind to bigotry then that’s a larger problem.
I come to Lemmus for exchanges like this. Well reasoned, level headed, and consequences considered. Imagine if we could get conversations like this to take place in those government buildings- sure would be swell.
Thank you. Be the change you want to see in the world, right?
Yeah. I generally don’t have an objection to pride flags but I could definitely see somebody stretching the same arguments to have a Confederate or MAGA flag (or just Trump’s face as he’s so fond of putting it on fucking everything)
Sounds like he is very, VERY gay.
That has to be it, right?
If seeing a piece of cloth is so triggering, then maybe that’s an indicator of a much more deep-rooted problem.
The “Christian men” who protest gay rights the loudest are usually the ones who wind up in the headlines when they get caught soliciting male prostitutes at rest areas.
