• Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    This doesn’t mean anything because a lot of work in Mexico is informal and done in cash, and so these changes won’t have an effect on the people who need them the most.

    Besides, the country is going through an existential crises right now with the cartels ripping the country apart. A lot of people are already criticizing her for not focusing on the most pressing problems, and they’re right. This is nice in theory, but things like crime and violence have gotten so out of hand that parts of the country are unlivable for the average folk. She’s being increasingly regarded by Mexicans as another cartel stooge in office.

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      27 days ago

      the thing is, if i understand this correctly, taking the US approach to security (send in a lot of soldiers, hurt everyone in the way, find nothing, leave) doesn’t work. it just doesn’t make sense to send in more soldiers. ironically, giving up the war on drugs would probably do more to improve the situation than trying to win it; as it would put a permanent end to the violence and bloodshed. and i see her doing that.

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      27 days ago

      The only way to address systemic problems like crime and violence in any meaningful way is addressing the underline problem that pushed people to commit crimes. That underline problem is quality of life which is directly related to income.

      Taking people out of the informal job market is another problem to tackle that can be helped with having better work laws. Having good working laws stimulate people to get jobs in the formal market and avoid offers for informal work even if with better pay. That is not a problem that would be solved in the short term but this laws will help with that. The same approach was used in other countries and together with more government enforcement and fiscalizaton of the companies you see great improvement over the years and decades migrating people to the formal job market and reduction in crimes and violence.

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        27 days ago

        You would be right if we were talking about normal crime and violence, but we’re not. The cartels aren’t made up of poor people who are committing crimes out of desperation. The people who are in the cartels do the most horrific things just to join, and once they join, they’re in for life. They have very organized hierarchies that keep a strict order, that’s why they’re massive crime syndicates.

        They abduct people from their houses, they assassinate politicians, they hold public executions, burn down businesses who don’t pay extortion fees, they torture people they kidnap, they rig elections, they put their corrupted judges and politicians in power, and the list goes on and on. They’re even starting to control the country’s biggest industries. For example, there’s a good chance that the avocadoes you buy from the store came from a cartel controlled farm. Things were bad before, but they’re especially bad now with the Sinaloa cartel being fractured. There’s a lot of cartels competing for the top spot and things are ugly, really ugly. Some of the cartels are especially brutal just for the sake of it like Jalisco New Generation.

        Mexico is a very unequal country. The nice areas are very nice. They’re safe, peaceful, have tourists, and are relatively wealthy. But the bad areas? They’re not even controlled by the government, they’re ruled by the cartels. They have so much violence that Mexico as a whole is considered a major war zone by the ACLED. You would think that president would prioritize something this pressing, but she gets offended at the very thought of her doing something about the cartels. Her predecessor, AMLO, did the same thing and he is widely regarded as a cartel stooge. She’s now being increasingly viewed in the same light.

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      27 days ago

      Someone always thinks something else is more important. Doing that and making (wishfully) perfect the enemy of good are solid recipes for no progress.

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        26 days ago

        In the abstract sure, but in reality context is everything. Would you celebrate countries like Israel or Russia passing similar labor reforms? Probably not, and rightfully so, because those countries clearly have much bigger, more pressing problems going on… like active wars and genocides. Mexico is not that far off, the cartel situation is truly something that is that disproportionate and bleak.

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          Yes. Improvement no matter how small is still improvement. More importantly, improving conditions can have sideways impacts on those big problems. Cartels (and Putin, using your Russia example) feed off desperation. Improving material conditions tends to make things harder for the bad guys, which is why the bad guys work so hard to make materials conditions worse (/wave MAGA). In reality, most problems are multi-faceted so we’d be fools not to see the big picture and do what we can where we can. The alternative, hyper focusing on the big problems, lets other problems grow which ultimately ends up feeding the big problem.

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            I don’t think we necessarily disagree on principle, we just disagree in our conclusions. I don’t think what I’m calling for is hyper fixation. The cartel issue by far the biggest and most pressing issue in the country to the point where it’s existential threat, and yet it is completely neglected at the cost of the common people. Again, I don’t have an issue with laws like this, you’re right that any improvement is better than nothing. However, it does highlight the fact the president is tone deaf. She’s been in office for 2 years now, and she has largely followed in the footsteps of her predecessor, AMLO, in going soft of cartels, which is a mistake costing the country dearly.

            You talk about improving material conditions makes things for the bad guys, but the bad guys here are not the government. Cartels directly worsen material conditions with their operations, they obviously don’t follow labor laws, and there’s nothing to counter their influence in the country. There’s shootouts in the streets that are akin to active warzones. The people who are saying I’m letting perfect be the enemy of good are delusional. This is like having a bear chewing on your leg in a national park while you scream in agony for a park ranger to help you, only for one to arrive and tell the good news that he’s revoking your parking ticket before leaving.

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              23 days ago

              If there was an easy solution to the cartels someone would have done it already. Take obtainable wins.

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      27 days ago

      You can’t have this all or nothing approach. You’ll never get anything done. This should be celebrated as a step in the right direction and further actions be encouraged.

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        27 days ago

        This the problem with the more radical leftists on here. They want these massive sweeping changes to happen or nothing at all. And that’s just not going to happen. Change is incremental. So they never get what they want because they never show up to vote.

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    27 days ago

    She needs to reform the US, next.

    Honestly, companies have legitimately taken advantage of productivity gains from technology over the last 30+years. We get more done individually now than we ever have before, so companies save millions on effectively having less staff, that’re also paid less due to sharp rises of inflation & CoL.

    We should be down to 24 hours a week IMO, because I myself piss away about half my week anyway trying to come up with shit to do! I know others are in similar boats.

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        27 days ago

        In IT, some weeks are super busy, but as I’ve improved things at work (upgrading equipment, fixed old issues, automated some repeat processes, etc), there are other weeks it’s “slow” and I feel like I’m just sitting there. It used to be nonstop all the time when I was new, but the were a lot of unresolved problems or things the last guy didn’t know how to do. I probably couldn’t get away with 3x 8 hour days as stuff will always happen unexpectedly, but still. It would be less of a problem if I could go back to working remote at least partially. Going onsite everyday is also annoying AF.

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          27 days ago

          Dang, yeah, that’s irritating. Would they at least allow you hybrid? I know someone who works remotely 2 days/wk which has been nice.

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      27 days ago

      I own a company, self employed and I set up my business to only need to do 20 billable hours a week. That covers my wage and insurance costs for myself. Obviously at that I’m not making profit as a business but as an employee I am making a good living

      It really opened my eyes to how much businesses fuck their employees and how much value i created for the 13 years i worked for others.

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        27 days ago

        I think we should have a law that employees at a company have a right to a share of % of the profits.

        Would help incentives workers, too. You’re gonna work harder if you know your efforts actually pay off.

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          Yeah the biggest change for me is now going to work isn’t so bad, don’t get me wrong i don’t love every day, but when I’m still working at 8pm punching a 14 hour day I know it’s all going to support my family, not paying some cunt to sit in an office and get paid for “making the hard decisions”

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          27 days ago

          even better: the workers should own the company. including its profits as well as its decisions.

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          27 days ago

          a share of % of the profits.

          Hollywood already has the playbook for that. You can have as little “profit” as you need to avoid payouts to people with profit share arrangements. Funny how executive compensation cuts into profits…

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      27 days ago

      And then there is the rest of us fighting to add more hours to our day just to get through it to massively varied degrees as they are

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        27 days ago

        Reducing your working hours would add so much valuable time to everyone’s lives. Of your workload is so great, time to hire additional help. Not your problem.

        You recall when covid first happened and so many and remote? Productivity shot up 17%according to several articles. Less “wasted time” with ‘water cooler’ talk. People could get coffee at home faster, quieter environments to focus in, etc. Insurance rates went down bc far less on the road, oil went down since demand dropped. It was ironically positive. It was great!

        But the commercial real estate problem began, and C suites started micro managing because they were told petiole will just slack off and all these made up problems were spread to get people back into the offices.

        It’s bullshit to keep us working so long every day. If you’re still overwhelmed with your workload, your company clearly is understaffed. I’ve learned, “the only reward for working hard is more work” and if you’re currently just managing to get it done, it’s seen as no extra help needed. “You got this”… Start letting stuff fall behind or putting it off, because you’ve got other stuff you prioritize. Call off sick at an inconvenient time so upper management sees the loss when you’re out. It’ll start to send signals that they in fact need help!

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      27 days ago

      That’s the beauty of the Mexican project. They’re going to accommodate the refugees in a way Americans refused to do. And they’re going to become a better country for it

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      27 days ago

      That’s already a problem in Mexico. American immigrants have been moving to the nice parts of Mexico, and they have been inflating the ever living fuck out of the prices there. American money is unmatched, and no Mexican business is going to dumb enough to let it slip by. They’ve been increasing prices and catering to Americans to the point where Mexicans are being squeezed out entirely from the equation.

      There are parts of Mexico city where Mexicans are completely priced out. People with houses in the nice parts try to sell them to Americans to get more money. Developers are building condo buildings that cater to American styles, and they’re entirely branded and marketed in English. Businesses in the area notice the increase in Americans walking around and jack up their prices to get a share of the pie themselves, which leads Americans to get another part of the city that’s still cheap to get the most out of their money repeating the cycle. Americans have already been doing this to countries like Spain, Portugal, and Italy, but now they’re doing it to Mexico too.

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        27 days ago

        theoretically, the whole population should be able to profit from the influx of money if it’s properly distributed. that seems to me to be more an issue with taxation than with overtourism.

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          26 days ago

          You’ll never reach a situation where the redistribution compensates in the same proportion than the price increase.

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    27 days ago

    Mexico is amending it’s constitution and the US can’t even pass a budget to keep it’s fucking bridges from collapsing. Meanwhile USA calls Mexico a failed state lol.

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    27 days ago

    Wow, their real achieved productivity is gonna go up nicely (if the studies are right about this sort of thing …)

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      27 days ago

      i can’t tell whether this is satire or not

      in case it’s not: you’re right. it’s well shown that a population that can actually rest and have some free time is much much more productive than a population that slaves away behind the counter.

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      Who cares about productivity? Can’t people just enjoy life at the level our resources allow? Why people need to work most of the week anymore is a mystery to me. Or past the age of 45-50. I’m so god damn tired of the endless repetitive grind of meaningless work to create next year’s landfill…

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        27 days ago

        While I agree with you in principle, I was thinking of their current standard of living in Mexico vs. (historically) the US, and trade deals with Canada and the rest of the world.

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    Anybody upset about this needs to be upset with their employer. If you need to work over 12 hours a day everyday you’re being severely underpaid. Saying this as a guy that used to do it to survive. My boss would praise me and tell people everyone they needed to be more like me while knowing damn well why I was doing what I was doing. Tried to be the empathetic hand while completely exploiting me.

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        I did it the hard way. Job hopping! I’m in IT without a degree (I have certs now but didn’t when I started). I have years of experience because I took entry level positions but had gaps in my knowledge due to not having a formal education. I started finding jobs that I had 80% of the know how from previous employers specifically. The pay would always be low for what I was doing, but it was a trade off since I had things to learn. I had to look for companies that weren’t willing to pay top dollar for IT so they’d be willing to ignore my lack of experience on some things.

        After landing the job, I’d focus on that 20% specifically for resume bullet points. After 1 year (very important to stay for at least 1 year!), I’d evaluate. Sometimes I’d jump ship taking along with me any references, promotions (job titles are important folks), and certs I could along the way. Sometimes I’d stay longer than a year depending on what was happening. The pay was never right so I knew I wasn’t going to stay.

        Most of these places were small to medium sized, toxic, unprofessional, and had high attrition rates.

        After years of that, I started landing positions mostly based on the network I built of professional references. I have professional friends that help me out that are higher up on the latter and I have ones that I help / bring up with me that are below me on the latter.

        Being honest, this was not the easy way by far and I don’t even know if you could still do what I did.

        Today though, I have steady employment working for a large organization. My pay is good but not great. I’m not rich but I can make rent and have some left over for savings working only 40 hours a week. Really that’s all I ever wanted! I’m still working on my career but I’m happy I don’t have to do it while killing myself to not starve anymore!

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          I’ve been pro union for a long time, that’s true but why did you feel you needed to respond to me literally asking about someone’s specific and personal pathway to a better situation?

          Your comment is unappreciated as it is completely out of place

  • SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    27 days ago

    Hopefully, Mexico will actually achieve the American Dream, rather than being dragged into a nightmare by their capitalists.

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    27 days ago

    Fucking bait. Their solution to AI will be everyone works part-time for no more pay. Work hours will get rationed, redistributed in a way wealthy never is.

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      27 days ago

      if there’s less supply of human labor, the price for it goes up. --> higher pay per hour

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        There is less demand for human labour, so its value goes down. Our only means of gaining resources to survive is to interact with the market economy that has captured everything, and do so through the exchange of money we earn selling our labour. If we can’t do that or it pays too little, we can’t interact with the economy and can’t get the resources necessary to stay alive.

        Rich and powerful never voluntarily do anything that would give us more power and them less. If it seems like either is happening, it’s a scam.

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          Our only means of gaining resources to survive is to interact with the market economy that has captured everything, and do so through the exchange of money we earn selling our labour.

          that’s neoliberal thought; not everything should be traded on the market.

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            I agree, but it is. Everyday they work toward turning another part of human existence, another experience or need or want, into a service or product to be sold and bought. Even the granular experiences of our relationships with each other are being commodified and enough people are buying them to grow those markets which outcompetes historic sources of those experiences, which are being degraded in quality, at the same time.

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              26 days ago

              a free-market approach is only tolerated by the people as long as it benefits the masses. as soon as the people see that they’re losing, they’re violently gonna take what they need; i have faith in that. so i don’t think that neoliberalism is long for this world.

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      27 days ago

      Let’s pretend the Queen of England didn’t just finally fuck off or all the other female authoritarians/war criminals, let’s remove her agency and attribute any good she does to being a woman.

      It’s more sexist than the implication itself.

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        27 days ago

        I personally think they care way more about losing money and influence than hating women.

        The misogyny is just a side gig.

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        27 days ago

        Margaret Thatcher was UK’s Reagan. Everything she didn’t ruin herself; she readied to be ruined later.

        It wasn’t because she was a woman. It was because she was a freaking neoliberal.

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        It’s also just really fucking annoying that this platitude comes up every time a headline is posted about a woman doing good, as if people are just incapable of thinking it through.

        Neither Clinton nor Harris would have supported this, and in fact, they’d have told their rotating villains to oppose it and claimed powerlessness, as Dems always do. (Which is, in part, why they lost their elections.)