• T156@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      I don’t know if it would, necessarily. So many alternatives are chrome-based, and part of the reason google was able to accrue that share to begin with was by putting a “get chrome now” in the corner of every search you did.

      Most alternatives don’t have that same kind of advertising reach to displace chrome, especially not for casual users.

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        26 days ago

        I doubt there’s many people who care about using add block who don’t at least know what Firefox is.

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    27 days ago

    I used to manage software that needed to be tested in all 3 major browsers every time we had an issue, and that was the only reason Chrome was even in my work PC. I moved on from that position, so bye bye Chrome

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        Chrome is in a similar position that IE used to be. It uses its majority position to move web development away from standards and so devs need to write extra code to support both chrome and others - or make chrome only sites.

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      28 days ago

      I think that the concern is whether a number of websites might stop working with Firefox if Chrome users consistently represent ad revenue and Firefox users generally don’t.

      I use Firefox, but it has relatively-limited marketshare in 2026. A lot of people just browse on mobile devices and on Android devices, that’s probably the default browser.

      https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/

      Chrome at 70.25%.

      Safari at 15.72%.

      Edge at 5.14%.

      Firefox at 2.19%.

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        28 days ago

        That’s going to change though with ad blocker not working on chrome, more people will install Firefox for android.

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          Yeah, that’s true. But…if a website derives its revenue from ads, a non-ad-viewing user — and users who switch browsers so as to use an ad blocker would presumably be blocking ads — loses that website money rather than generating it. Like, for such a website, the issue would be how many Firefox users that do view ads would be lost if their website didnlt work on Firefox.

          Those of you who remember the early 2000s, when Internet Explorer had very high marketshare, probably remember a number of websites that didn’t work with other browsers.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            28 days ago

            Broad rule of thumb for me:

            If your website needs ad revenue to either exist, or that’s fundamentally its entire business model?

            That website does not need to exist.

            Now sure, are their caveats to this? Yes. But broadly, its usually true. The website should exist as a small loss leading part of your whole shebang, or should have some kind of membership or donation model or something else, to fund itself.

            Its also not that hard to make a website follow broswer agnostic standards. If the website can’t figure out how to do that, if they think its fine to be a browser-vendor exclusive website, I don’t need to use it.

          • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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            Google is already killing the ad revenue model of the web by presenting the content it scrapes with AI for search — effectively stealing their content for profit — instead of ranking links so users navigate to their sites. Many have ahead seen a 70-90% drop in traffic, resulting in a 70-90% drop in ad revenue.

            Capitalism is a blast, huh? Crime is very legal and very cool!

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        Useragent Detection - Your Current Useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/149.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36

        Browser userAgentData HighEntropyValues: { “platform”: “Android”, “platformVersion”: “10.0.0”, “mobile”: true, “model”: “K” }

        Browser Name: Chrome
        Browser Version: for Android
        OS: Android 10.0
        Hardware Vendor: Unknown
        Hardware Model: Unknown
        Screen Width:
        Screen Height:
        Is it a desktop device: No
        Is it a mobile device: Yes
        Is it a tablet: No
        Is it a crawler/robot: No
        Is it a console: No

        That’s what is returned by their browser detection tool for Vanadium on graphene.

        Cromite is even more privacy oriented, returning

        Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/148.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36

        { “platform”: “Android” }

        Browser Name: Chrome
        Browser Version: for Android
        OS: Android 10.0
        Hardware Vendor: Unknown
        Hardware Model: Unknown

        Their stats combine ALL versions of chrome (chromium) which would also include things like cromite, degoogled chrome, cromium itself, possibly vivaldi, apps that use webview (doordash, voyager for lemmy, bank apps, etc) might even be included as they are chrome/chromium on android, would all tally for chrome with no differentiation even though some versions are light years apart.

        Cromite/vanadium and chrome are the same browssrs the way chocolate and vanilla are the same ice cream.

        Oh, and to muddle things some more, on Android, viewing using desktop site gives this:

        Browser Name: Chrome
        Browser Version: 148.0
        OS: Linux 0
        Is it a desktop device: Yes

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        If that happens, Google becomes a monopoly, if it isn’t already. They don’t want this (or at least they haven’t, but they might think it won’t matter now). If they continue wanting Firefox to be relevant to help their argument that they aren’t a monopoly, they’ll do what they can to ensure Firefox continues to work.

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          27 days ago

          Or Google thinks all the other illegal crap they routinely get away with is a leading sign that they will also get away with becoming a monopoly…

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      28 days ago

      And safari on all platforms (all 2) supports ad blocking. Not my first choice on Mac (or even my 3rd really) but it’s basically my only choice on iOS

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        28 days ago

        well except in the worst OS ever, iOS, where you can only use the worst web standards compliant webengine for vague security reasons, you know, to keep you safe from yourself

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          You don’t like the OS; ok. Nobody likes the forced usage of the engine. But WebKit being the “worst web standards compliant” is simply not true. It’s maybe the highest on interop and certainly competitive in other ways. I wish there were more WebKit and Gecko; way too much Blink right now. Come on Ladybird and Servo.

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          28 days ago

          There are mobile clients of Firefox and related forks, FYI, not just on PC. Firefox and Fennec are probably the most popular on Android.

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            mobile has forks and adblockers. you can even use brave if you want. ironfox is one firefox, but i stopped using it, because it does something wierd with different websites, and and on reddit where i browse sparingly.

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          okay sit down this one is going to take a lot of brain. if a lot of hackers use it, the people who are good at computers, right? why would you not use the one that hackers use?

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          I shit you not, I used to work for a company (with no IT dept btw) that refused to use Firefox because they said it was “a trojan virus.”

          What I think happened is one of their dipshit employees downloaded something they shouldn’t have and got a virus and the bosses blamed the browser.

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        The forks of Firefox are just as good or better, and largely lack the AI bullshit.

        Firefox is my go-to browser, but don’t trust Mozilla and be ready to switch to an alternative just in case Firefox gets enshittified too much.

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      28 days ago

      Orion for iOS has chrome AND Firefox addons. It’s mozzarella foxfire fork.

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    26 days ago

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