Shot the contractor?!?! Plenty of sick ones buying the bunkers.
This isn’t all that different than my new Multi-Use neighborhood problems. Many of the people in the big houses are entitled POS who feel they are above the rules (for the most part, they are). Many in the smallest houses/rentals dgaf about the rules because their chances of getting in actual trouble are slim.
We don’t have a stand your ground here tho, just getting away with shooting the contractor is pretty fucking insane.
Only a third of the individual properties — which can be bought for up to $55,000 plus rent and service fees — are occupied at the moment, according to the WSJ.
Yeah no, this is not a place for wealthy people. Fucking clickbait title.
Sounds like people just moved in instead of buying a real house.
Honestly, I was thinking the same thing, it’s less expensive to buy that instead of a house.
This was their last chance to avoid paying taxes. The only hope for them now is to pay taxes. Just like the rest of us.
Have none of these people or their handlers every heard of Fallout? Even the control vaults usually end up eating themselves.
love how one of the safest vaults, 88 i think it was, was only safe because the science team failed to introduce the plan
And then there’s the security question … what’s to stop their ‘guards’ from realizing that they could be living securely -without- the boss?
I think shock collars was the last answer I heard from billionaires. I don’t think they think things through all the way.
Gonna be a tough sell getting someone to wear one of those.
Money-obsessed persons are not capable of understanding concepts other than money.
Why do you think they’re so interested in AI powered robot dogs?
Obviously they have their own weaknesses but it’s going to help prevent human-level coups.
Also psych AI to watch facial movements to check for disloyalty, (presumably at some point).
Never understood these bunkers in modern times.
If TSHTF so hard that someone truly needs to bunker up for months on end civilization as we know it will likely be at an end. No coming back from it. Congrats, you survived to enjoy the death of everything we know. Heck knows they didn’t store a hoard of raw materials, tools, physical books full of knowledge, farm implements, seeds, and have ready access to individuals with year 1895 level skills to make it all work. They only thought of themselves and stored some food, lots of booze, and a little medicine, figuring they could jet off to some safe haven when it was convenient.
They’re just as dead, but they get to enjoy roving starving humans trying to kill them over whatever’s left.
1895 level skills
Try 1695. There will be bits and bobs of modern life around, but the core skills required are going to be very much what the European settlers in the new world needed.
Most of the first European settlers didn’t have those skills and either died or were rescued by native peoples, whom they later thanked by massacring them.
The settlers were often townsfolk or recently demobilized soldiers, not experienced farmers. And it was a different ecosystem, with greater extremes of climate and different edible plants and pests, so even the agriculture needed to be adapted.
Depends on the extinction event. There are plenty of scenarios (well not plenty, but enough) where most people die and supply chains are wiped out, but there are still libraries and warehouses full of shit (home depots, Amazon warehouses, and so on). Pharmacies would be good for raiding, too. Also farmer bob and his family died, but all of his shit is still there on his farm ready to be taken.
And you can get generators with three fuel sources, not to mention that solar panels are readily available and generally easy to put together for a janky half-assed set up, so anything that needs electricity can still be used. (Did somebody say power tools? Did somebody say well pump? Did somebody say small flow treatment system? Did somebody say refrigeration?)
And preppers (not all, but likely many) do amass survival books, encyclopedias and “medicine for dummies” books, and any of them that are serious are practicing Bushcraft enough to have a working knowledge of that.
I’m guessing the bunker is actually there to ride out the people killing other people to take their resources phase. Maybe a nuclear bomb?
Myself, I’m a half-assed homesteader, which is like being a prepper without all of the white supremacy stuff that goes with it. If there were an extinction event, and I somehow lived through it, I think I would last a couple more months than your average joe, but I doubt I would live into old age.
And do you think you’re the only one who will have thought of raiding those places? There’s going to be lots of competition.
farmer bob and his family died, but all of his shit is still there on his farm ready to be taken.
Good luck keeping Bob’s John Deere running for more than a generation.
A generation is a lot of time to guess/check farming without power equipment. Not to mention the libraries likely with several books that outline that stuff. I have two books in my house right now that claim to be guides for similar stuff. Prepping is big business. And there are tons of john Deere’s and John Deere dealerships with service departments everywhere. I imagine you could keep it alive a long time. More than a generation, yes. 100 years? Probably not.
More than a generation, yes. 100 years? Probably not.
So much unknown. Competition with other survivors with guns, knives, the ability to poison your well when you aren’t looking or burn your house down while you sleep… assuming NONE of those kinds of things EVER happen, then, yes, the happy cooperative commune that never murders each other over scarce resources could keep a basic tractor running for 30+ years. Throw in all those other challenges… just traveling to a supply depot to get a new spark plug could be risking your life.
Even the happy cooperative commune is going to need centuries of relative peace in order to reboot the supply chain to the point of making new spark plugs compatible with the old engine blocks - or new engine blocks when the old ones are too worn to rebuild.
So much unknown. Competition with other survivors with guns, knives, the ability to poison your well when you aren’t looking or burn your house down while you sleep…
Or, everyone rallies in the first few years and the few survivors that are around work together and share resources, at least long enough that everyone gets theirs.
Movies and video games are more entertaining when there’s over-the-top conflict, and I think that shapes our predictions. We have seen, however, that in times of crisis communities and people rally together for the greater good. Even strangers help strangers. That doesn’t usually last long, but it does happen. And I have no reason to believe that wouldn’t be true if a world-killing meteor struck the earth in China. On my side of the planet, I do believe there would be a honeymoon phase before mad Max times.
I’d be naive to assume that it would be without conflict for generations. I’m not saying that at all.
Even the happy cooperative commune is going to need centuries of relative peace in order to reboot the supply chain to the point of making new spark plugs compatible with the old engine blocks - or new engine blocks when the old ones are too worn to rebuild.
Yes. It would take a while to figure out how to reboot factories and supply chains (if that even is the goal after the extinction event – when there’s 10,000 left alive scattered throughout the world, why would we need factories and supply chains?). But also, there are more than enough spark plugs and engine blocks packed in oil at tractor supplies and John Deere service departments to make it happen for generations. Traveling may or may not be dangerous – neither you nor I know.
My other claim is that we’d learn to use horses/cows to pull the tractor implements before the tractors are kaput for good. I stand by that claim.
The biggest danger would be illness and injury.
So, ever been to Utah? No saying they are fully prepared… But their mutant spawn may make it out to kill each other over the scraps if it’s not a total wipe of life.
There’s people that might survive, I’m thinking like the Amish. But even they depend on modern society at some level for materials. If anyone would make it it would be a group like that, someone already without modern tools as much as possible.
The Amish are going to have a hard time with the AR15 hoarders…
Why?
Maybe they’re coy about it, but the Amish I have met aren’t big into firearms. Once there’s a farm with food and no guns and roving bands of hungry men with guns and ammo situation, the farmers usually doesn’t do well in the ensuing relationship.
So you’re saying people with guns would kill the people with the knowledge needed to have a hope of survival in a hypothetical apocalyptic catastrophe in a shortsighted display of greed and strength?
That absolutely tracks.
Yep.
It will have to be those with a strong commitment to community and preparation. Which will mean people with “faith” in the future they probably won’t see.
So, that will exclude most of the narcissistic oligarchy. Though some are narcissistic enough about their own lineage to spawn a cult of personality for the continuation of their brood…
They will however continue to hoard resources enough to weather the more likely minor civil disturbances their actions are certain to cause. Wich is the real motive for some.
t will have to be those with a strong commitment to community and preparation.
They’ll be the first to be enslaved.
I like all the people saying “But these aren’t billionaires!” As if billionaires are some different type of people incapable of being moronic paranoid preppers who will bring about their own demise through their own stupidity.
…what billionaires? These are 55k units in frickin North Dakota. Explain to me where the billionaires are in this scenario.
Have these guys ever considered that the survivors outside the bunkers might just weld the bunker doors shut whilst those inside watch them do it on closed circuit television?
This place is a message… and part of a system of messages… pay attention to it!
Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.
This place is not a place of honor… no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here… nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This would just lead them to store gas-axes in their bunkers. What i dont imagine they can counter, however, would be the urge to leave once the air system is sabotaged and the crowd outside is sat waiting.
Gas masks don’t help with total lack of oxygen. All you have to do is send pure nitrogen down the ventilation shafts, even if they tanked O2, that’s maybe 10 hours per tank per person - how many tanks do you think they got with their $55K “Villa de Armageddon”?
The funniest part would be watching these chucklefucks trying to operate cutting equipment
I don’t think that any outcome they foresee will have any relation to what will actually happen.
I think the bigger threat is people dropping toxic gas or bombs down the ventilation shafts.
cause ventilation shafts will be found, eventually, no matter how well they hide them.
Then just cut the doors open and loot the supply hoards. Convenient that you can look these things up on the internet and save map pins to find them in case of need…
If there’s any kind of catastrophe, people are going to want the resources inside these things. They’re not going to destroy the bunkers, just their occupants. Yeah, gas would do the trick. I’d suggest starting with CS, just to send a message.
They could do like submarines and have air scrubbers. That’d keep them going for a while with no vents.
The core hardware of a premium nuclear bunker air scrubber (like those from DEFCON Bunkers or [American Safe Room]) lasts 5 to 10 years. However, the actual CBRN filters (gas and particulate) require replacement every 6 to 12 months when operating, while the primary HEPA filter can last for years in dry, non-contaminated environments.
Bunker air filtration : r/preppers https://share.google/1ocXyhrcvc9nSWYoc
Yeah, make their bunkers their tombs. And the antisocial distance is poetic.
I would bury them after the welding, then scout where the escape hatches and weld and bury them too… Then the air system…
And cement the air vents shut too
Really, the most disconnected from humanity unlikable people aren’t getting along? Weird.
Look at Fallout series for more inspiration about what might happen
Much like the petty grievances plaguing often overbearing homeowners’ associations, investors of a purportedly “five-star” bunker in rural South Dakota called Vivos xPoint…
Um, South Dakota? The South Dakota that is a central region of America’s nuclear sponge, where nuclear strikes at the USA’s nuclear missile silos would likely hit? That South Dakota is where these geniuses plan to weather the apocalypse?
“But it’s remote and rural”
Yeah that’s why the nuclear silos are there. Putting a “nuke this first” target in Chicago would be stupid
Why are these people moving into these bunkers now? And why do you all seem to think it’s billionaires who are doing that, into $55k units? Lol. Lololol.
Yeah - these are crazy preppers. Inknow a few of them, and they’re the kinds of people who you very much do NOT want to share a bunker with.
These people are such morons. It would take about 2 minutes of an intro level Anthropology class to learn that for like 95% of human history we lived in small groups like this — so we’re definitely able to do it — but they only worked because they were (mostly) egalitarian. They absolutely don’t work when group members consistently value themselves over the group.
people are such morons
Wait until you read about Cryonics…
It’ll be funny when they wake up 3000 years from now because aliens want to vivisect them.
Demolition Man is free on Tubi right now
Maybe I’ll finally learn how to use the three seashells.
They weren’t necessarily egalitarian, but they all involved a sense of duty to the community the ability to reinvent the structure of the community, and the freedom to leave. They were also smaller than this. But yeah this is a bunch of people who don’t understand how to function in a community like this.
Also I’m not certain why these people are already living in the bunkers
They are so disconnected from reality they think the world has already ended. Evidence of this would be the minor pushback to things like AI they are starting to experience.
A bunch of them went and hid in their bunkers when 9/11 happened. Obviously a pretty bad thing to happen but hardly the end of the world. Sadly they came out about 2 days later because they got bored.
