cross-posted from : https://lemmy.world/post/49585184

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5, 10 or 15 percent? Card terminals are increasingly asking for tips.

You may have had to do this lately too: choosing what percentage tip you want to give on the card terminal when paying in a restaurant or bar. Or clicking ‘no tip’ after all.

The number of hospitality businesses doing this is growing, and we are also tipping more often when we have to choose. This is evident from figures shared by payment companies with the NOS. When giving such a tip, we most often choose 5 percent from the options of 5, 10, 15 percent, or a self-chosen amount.

Hospitality businesses using payment and software company Tebi can decide for themselves whether to display the menu. It turns out that at coffee shops where you order at a counter, the percentage of tippers skyrockets when they ask for a tip. Almost no one adds a tip by card if no request is displayed, but with a request, that figure is over 20 percent.

In upscale restaurants, customers often leave a tip by card anyway, even if not asked. With a tipping menu, even more people do so, according to the figures. Percentage of transactions with a tip

At surf school and beach bar The Shore in Scheveningen, they have been working with percentage tips for quite some time. During the pandemic, the business switched to card payments only. “Tips dropped drastically then,” says co-owner Thomas Franse.

In 2021, The Shore got a POS system that had that tipping option, and it was enabled. “That was definitely the moment the tips went up again.”

Franse has mixed feelings about asking for tips. “It is not the best customer experience. In the beginning, we received quite a lot of negative reactions alongside the positive ones. However, it is an important source of income for the staff.” He also notices customers getting used to it now, because more and more hospitality businesses are doing it. A tip menu on a card reader

Payment company Adyen compiled data on the proportion of hospitality business owners who are customers of their establishments who use a custom tipping menu. For restaurants, this rose from 19 percent in the first half of 2025 to 22 percent in the first half of 2026. For bars and cafes, it rose from 46 to 53 percent.

“This indicates that this is increasingly becoming a standard part of modern payment processes in the hospitality industry,” says Julien Marlier, Benelux Manager. On card terminals where the tipping function is active, 61 percent choose ‘no tip’. Consequently, 39 percent do leave a tip, averaging 4.31 euros.

Tebi also has figures on the percentage we select when giving a tip. Most often, people choose 5 percent. “About a quarter enter their own, usually small, amount,” says general manager Florian Brunsting. “High ‘American’ tip amounts are hardly ever seen.” In the US, a tip of at least 20 percent is expected in restaurants. How much tip should we give?

The Irish pub Mick O’Connells in Utrecht also has card readers with tip requests. “It is sometimes quite surprising who does and doesn’t give a tip,” says manager James O’Halloran. “Young students, from whom you wouldn’t expect a tip, might give 5 or 10 percent. Wealthier bank employees sometimes give nothing at all.”

The tip is usually 5 percent, he notes as well. “On average, we receive about 3,500 to 4,000 euros in tips monthly. That is distributed entirely among employees, based on the number of working hours.” On average, it amounts to about 2 euros per hour. Less personal

Restaurant and bar patrons react differently to tip requests. “I didn’t give a tip,” says Sophie, who ordered at the counter at a salad bar in Utrecht and had to choose. “I find it less personal. It’s just: here, do you want to give a tip or not?”

“I like it because then I can choose for myself what, if anything, to give,” says a visitor to The Shore in Scheveningen. He gave a 5 percent tip. “People work hard for it. So it’s nice to give a little something extra.” More often in Amsterdam

Whether entrepreneurs opt for a tip menu varies by region. For instance, in Amsterdam, over 30 percent of Tebi customers have enabled the feature, whereas in Nijmegen, for example, it is only 10 percent.

During a survey in Den Bosch, several hospitality businesses said they did not want to get involved. “I’m not really a fan of it,” says Marc Bouman of Brasserij Breton. “I’m not going to push tips unnecessarily; people give it if they want to.”

“If you show that choice, people might feel forced,” says Angie Joosten of Café CinQ. “For us, it works just fine to leave it entirely up to each individual.”

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    9 days ago

    However, it is an important source of income for the staff.

    How about you don’t suck as an employer and pay adequate wages to the staff?

  • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    “American-syle” anything is usually a threat to proper living, lol. Even their deep dish pizzas, although I’m more partial to them for obvious reasons. 😅

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      9 days ago

      “American style” should trigger the same kind of response as “biohazard”, or “war zone”, or “x”.

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    9 days ago

    Even if i was going to tip, which I do when it’s a nice restaurant, showing me a terminal with a button will instantly turn that into no tip.

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    9 days ago

    This should be prohibited.

    Pay our workers properly. I never tip for this reason. It’s the responsibility of the employer to pay well, not of us.

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    9 days ago

    I never quite get why performing your job = entitlement of expecting tips as granted. Office jobs don’t get tips either when they perform their jobs. Maybe there are bonuses based on revenue but that’s another thing. So why when office jobs are out buying a coffee or ice cream, they are expected to tip?

    If the boss is terrible and doesn’t pay their workers a living salary for spending their time and effort in making the business run, what customers ought to do shouldn’t be supporting this model out of mercy or compassion but use their action to vote for businesses they support, like when they would usually make other purchases elsewhere.

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      9 days ago

      Forced/expected tipping is toxic and absolutely wrong for so many reasons, the least of which is in many states it is expected for staff wages so legal exceptions to the minimum wage are enacted (some places you make less than 2$ /hr).

      And yes, it is like a little bonus for the working staff.

      In Spain tipping is generally rounded up change to the nearest euro, people still give tips feely and it is a welcome surprise but definitely not expected.

      I find it ironic that the English shit on the Spanish for not tipping, then don’t tip themselves, and Americans always say ‘hey, we don’t have to tip!’ and don’t, completely missing the point of tipping.

      The Dutch are famously tight but tip well, the Irish tip well.

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        9 days ago

        This was the tipping way in Germany too, at least when you mostly paid with cash. IMO it was mostly used to speed up the payment process, even when recieving okayish service. Much faster to return 8€ than 8.47€. With digital transactions this is not necessary anymore. Ignoring the 1/10 exceptional service you get rarely.

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          9 days ago

          I actually enjoy the service here, everything takes awhile, servers disappear, you often have to get their attention if you n would like something… In the US its so oppressive; every 30 seconds: water? Howiseverything? Can I get you some thing else? Here’s your bill now getthefuckoutigottamakerent

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    9 days ago

    My grandma always said (translated) ‘against the vice of asking for, the virtue of not giving’. She was a really wise woman.

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    9 days ago

    one thing that might put at least a little dent on this, is to be outraged when you see such tipping thing and abort whatever purchase you were going to do because of it and let the seller know it too. Its annoying and bothersome, but better that than this spreading more and you eventually being coerced into giving in.

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    9 days ago

    Oh god, here in Germany, too. Was at a chain bakery in Cologne station a couple of weeks ago, bought something for like 3€. The employee told me “choose on the screen and place your card”, I just automatically placed my card. Nothing happens. “Choose on the screen”.

    Oh.

    Do I want to tip 15, 25, or 30% for the literally 5 seconds of service I got?

    Of course didn’t tip, because wtf.

    However, I’m sure in her eyes I was being an asshole. And that’s the thing, isn’t it? Every party is incentivized to push for this model.

    • payment terminal makers increase the amount of fees they collect
    • employees get lured with the promise of making more money
    • employers get lured with the idea of being able to reduce expenses wages eventually

    (This wasn’t the first time btw, just the most egregious one I’ve encountered)

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      9 days ago

      However, I’m sure in her eyes I was being an asshole.

      Dont be sure about that assumption. That person might hate the system for the very same reason you do. They might feel like beggars. Here in Denmark we got the same thing going and I often experience that the staff will push the “no tip” option themself.

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        9 days ago

        I mean… Maybe. But she had two opportunities to do so.

        I’m not angry at her in any way, I should clarify. If I was in the same situation? Low paying job, potential for significant additional pay for no extra work? Hard to say no to that.

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    I remember learning from my parents that tipping is the exception, not the rule, for when the service really has been exceptionally good. Now I feel like a dickhead when eating out and not tipping, no matter the service quality, which really annoys me (experience in Germany)

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      I actually do it the other way round, as I feel weird for “rewarding” service people, it feels kind of hierarchic. So I always tip in a restaurant, but I don’t tip if the service was bad.

      I do small amounts if I had more than a drink. In a bakery or somewhere else to go I only tip if I feel the person could need it, if it’s a student or so.

      And yeah, I also don’t tip via these 5,10,15% card terminals. But I give them 1 or 2, euros in cash instead.

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        9 days ago

        They will go from making min wage to 2x min wage. No way they get paid less than min wage

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          9 days ago

          Nobody is going to pay a server double wages, that’s naive and has never happened. Either they don’t get any tips, or the owner will come up with a tipped wage where they get their current wages cut, and then they rely on tips to survive.

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            No. They are already on or near min wage. With tips they will make double that easily. In the rare case that their tips dont make min wage the employer will pay them min wage.

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              9 days ago

              You are thinking about the US.

              It will not work the same in the EU. People won’t pay 20% on top of the bill for service, we are not that stupid.

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                Doesnt matter what people tip. Servers currently make min wage or close to so anything is an increase. I dont think tipping is good and I hate that servers always push for it.

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                  9 days ago

                  I don’t think you understand what you are saying.

                  If tips become customary, there is no incentive for businesses to increase wages, but there is a very clear one for the same businesses to lobby for lower wages, which is precisely what happens in the US.

                  And I’m not talking about paying their workers less than the legally admissible, but to push to keep the same minimum wage for decades, which again, is precisely what happens in the US, where the minimum has been ~$3 an hour for tipped employees.

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                  I don’t think you understand what you are saying.

                  If tips become customary, there is no incentive for businesses to increase wages, but there is a very clear one for the same businesses to lobby for lower wages, which is precisely what happens in the US.

                  And I’m not talking about paying their workers less than the legally admissible, but to push to keep the same minimum wage for decades, which again, is precisely what happens in the US, where the minimum has been ~$3 an hour for tipped employees.

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      8 days ago

      Servers will not be happy about tips going into the business merchant accounts instead of the tip jar that they can see if the owner skims.