I would love to donate to ublock origin but the dev actively doesn’t want money
Haven’t used Facebook in… Probably over 10 years.
i don’t like the “giving up the fight” framing.
Maybe they should stop providing this service for all the big players. people might actually leave if they suffer all the ads.
Or stop their service and everyone suffers?
Nice try, YouTube.
It’s quite fine; who uses Facebook nowadays?
Unfortunately, it’s the only used marketplace that still exists in my city.
The venn diagram of uBlock Origin users and Facebook users is two completely separate circles.
I love that i can curse here like the caveman I am:
Me no like Fart Fuckerberg. FUCK Shart Fuckerberg
Fuck fuckerbergzuckerfuck in the neck!
Stop wasting effort and block all facebook ads with this one weird trick. Slop devs hate him!
I blocked all those on the router-side for a while. Suddenly I couldn’t take calls on WhatsApp anymore. Makes you wonder, dunnit?
I also only have one friend left who I can’t get to move to Signal. Motherfucker is gonna get an ultimatum from me soon, I’m tired of Meta and their shit.
WhatsApp is literally made by the same people as Facebook, why are you surprised? Signal is great!
Careful, this is how you make the key cards to the server room stop working 😆
Why the fuck do articles like this keep using that Pirat_Nation Twitter account as a source? They’re a far right culture warrior who never actually links to the original reporting.
That “article” is obviously AI generated; that whole page should be blocked from this community.
I know a way you can never see a Facebook ad ever again.
I know a way you can stop seeing ads altogether!
*Pulls out fork*
I get the reasoning, but this is pretty sad. My older parents are frequently more and more fooled by sponsored Facebook posts with some fake product they want to buy, then all of a sudden they have “YOUR COMPUTER HAS BEEN HACKED” notification spam that takes up half their screen. It’s not to a ridiculous degree, maybe 3 times a year on average, but it’s happening more often recently.
I use uBlock Origin to keep them safe. If this starts not blocking any ads, I’m not sure what else to do. Is Brave going to keep up?
“Get them off Facebook” isn’t an option. They’re old, and it’s how they connect with their friends and get fulfilment. As disgusting as Facebook is, it’s too far gone at this point, I can’t take that away from them.
My mom got a new laptop and had been logged into Facebook for maybe 5 minutes when she got hit with one of those fake malware ads and freaked out about it. I don’t even get it, I know for a fact she’s encountered shit like that before.
The most annoying thing is… People can use more than one app. You can say “well, if you wanna talk to me, I’ll be on this messenger here.” And thats how you get them through the door.
It’s really shouldn’t be that hard, yet it feels like asking someone to pull their teeth out.
I am relatively tech literate and I have troubles remembering every canal I have to use to join all of my contacts. I have like 6 or 7 different ones.
Meanwhile, my father can’t remember one password to save his life, and my grandfather tries answering the phone on a TV remote. Good luck with that.
The people who refuse to get off Facebook can contact me via text. Everyone has a cell phone. I’ve never had Facebook and never will. I’m not putting my face or personal info online and I’m not ever going to bend on that. If they can’t accept that and compromise on how we communicate then they can GTFO of my life.
I swear this happens to me every single year, and I honestly don’t know if Facebook is intercepting my messages because I don’t know where the confusion comes from (aside my old brain not remembering the name of Facebook products):
“I’ll send you a text message with the address”
“I don’t see anything in messenger”
“What? what’s messenger? I’m sending you a text message on the phone. Look at your phone”
“I’m looking at the phone I still don’t see anything in messenger”
“What’s messenger???”
“I use it for all my messages”
“…and this is from Samsung?”
“No it’s Facebook”
“Get them off Facebook” isn’t an option. They’re old, and it’s how they connect with their friends and get fulfilment.
This is exactly the kind of mentality that Meta preys upon. Create a new community. Invite them. Invite your family. Invite their friends. There is no other option. As long as we continue to capitulate to them, they will continue to exploit their power to harm their users.
Spoken like someone who has clearly never actually tried to put that kind of thing into practice.
I have tried many time, often in vain, but maybe 10% of the time it does work.
Invite your family. Invite their friends.
They will not join. Ask me how I know.
All you can do is keep asking.
Fluffbuster purity
I don’t know if you saw this post yet, but at least somebody is maintaining a Facebook filter list. Hopefully that means you can keep using uBO in peace, provided the right lists are enabled.
But if you block ads on Facebook, then what will you read? When I accidentally go to my profile, it’s a post from someone I actually follow for every 20 sponsored posts. It’s a website to watch ads, then every once of a while your ad viewing session is interrupted by some real content
The rest is “suggested” content. It’s not an ad, just posts from accounts the algorithm thinks you should see.
This might lead some people to use the alternatives. I never had an account and I am just fine.
The dev comments say a lot:
https://old.reddit.com/user/paintboth1234
No one helping the project ever said “uBO is living on a secluded isle”. It’s a public community FOSS project, for over a decade, monitored and contributed by every user and volunteer. Every site has been watching uBO for years. It’s not new. And yes, if users do nothing to help, either on helping uBO’s side or leaving the trash sites, and just give snarky comments instead, this will happen.
The message is clear to me; UBO devs are sick of a sick of a sea of users constantly complaining about imperfect Facebook blocking, who won’t contribute anything nor lift a finger to limit their own usage. They’re sick of slaving away fighting six-figure-salary devs, who’s only job is to counter adblock, where their only compensation is more complaints.
It’s not a technical limitation. It kinda a “You know what? I’m sick of this. If you want to support Facebook, fine; we welcome PRs.”
Which is totally fair.
To me, it sounds like UBO could drop other overtly hostile sites.
The comments on Reddit are fucking insane, they literally read like they’re from Facebook itself.
Lemmy / the Fediverse is far from perfect but I’m so glad the discussions here aren’t so entitled and selfish.
This is my pet peeve!
If they really have to use it, there are TONS of other tools to debloat Facebook, including checkboxes for extra filters IN UBO.
Did they lift a finger to even check?
Nope. Not even a freaking pinky. Yet they act like entitled subject experts in the comments.
This is my absolute trigger. If someone is gonna complain about something, at least do a cursory search about the problem instead of pretending like you’re omniscient.
But also, I understand that algorithmic social media (like Facebook, and now Reddit) has trained people to expect information to come to them.
If it’s not already in their feed, it doesn’t exist. The idea of “hmm, I wonder if anything else cleans up Facebook” didn’t even occur to them, despite how apparently existential the issue is.
It’s like the whole planet has forgotten how to seek knowledge out.
People’s problem solving skills, curiosity and creative thinking have absolutely gone to shit
I don’t know how to fix this cause most people seem to think they have to use social media, yet have absolutely no interest in understanding how to better use technology in general
If the Meta devs find their work drying up as a result and are risking a layoff, they could always contribute anonymously to keep the racket going perpetually.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of other adblockers to target.
That, and they’re probably ridiculously burnt out, from what I hear about Meta. They’re gonna quiet quit or work on something else in their queue before making more work.
correct link to comment: https://reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1vgcjg5/about_disgusting_facebook_devs/p34f5a6/
Yeah, I gotta say that while shit is looking pretty bad on the corporate producer side of things, this society/system has bred a ton of entitled consumers that think their desires are important to anyone that can make or do things.
Even if you’re paying someone for something, that doesn’t mean you can dictate what they do or how they do it. Or even that they need to offer you what they willingly offer others. There’s some people where no amount of money would make dealing with them worthwhile, let alone what they are willing to pay for special treatment.
But with FOSS, there isn’t even the incentive of money greasing the interaction. It’s just pure entitlement. No one owes you anything just because you’re interested in their project or skills.
this shows a quite horrible example for the other tech big dogs. if they throw a small group of devs at the adblocker devs, eventually they might also win this.
a seperated closed source facebook oriented fork would be the best idea, since the enemy can see every bit of code of ublock.
Ad blocking is done client side in the browser, it’s impossible to hide.
You can obfuscate, but you can do that now.
Not that I use Facebook myself, but I think this was a misstep in the U block team.
All this did was tell the major companies out there that the only thing they have to do to make it so u block origins no longer works on their site is to make it extremely tedious for the team working on the project to make filters. So I expect that now that they’ve officially dropped support for Facebook, the other major sites are going to look at how Facebook is doing it, and they’re going to adopt a similar systems
Companies absolutely can pay people solely to combat ad blockers. That will always win. Facebook doesn’t have a “system” other than always changing their system. Any company can constantly change how they display ads. The ad blockers are just always playing catch up until the corporation exhausts the volunteers energy.
If the solution is to get new volunteers to keep up the work, why don’t we have people willing to take on that role? Most people that have the know how arent using facebook anyway, so there’s no motivation from them.
Without legislature to enforce some rules on corporations, the ones with the money will always win.
I’m not sure I’m understanding the point of your comment. It sounds like you are making the case that somehow Ublock origin announcing they are no longer blocking ads on facebook because it’s too cumbersome, somehow will not cause companies to be like “oh facebook figured out the ad blocking problem, what did they do” and then try to implement similar systems.
Yes more people could contribute, but you know what else would help the cause as well? Not announcing to the world the solution to break your product. They have now put in writing that the solution to making the “problem” their product creates go away, is to just make it super obnoxious/tedious for the team to try and find filters on. This is going to act like gas on fire and only cause more work for them than if they had just silently let the filters phase out and use the excuse none of the maintainers are on the platform anymore.
It’s not a matter of technical implementation, but a procedural one. It was never a secret, it was just too expensive and impractical to do. If you changed how you implement ads every single day, the ad blockers would have to change their rules every day. Just keep going forever, and eventually the adblockers won’t have the resources to keep up.
It’s like if a food truck driver was trying to operate without a permit. If they sat in the same spot every day, officials would see them and easily catch them. If they moved to different apots around town every day and repainted their truck, they could evade officials. That’s not a secret, it’s just that it’s more work than it’s worth. While not a great analogy for many reasons, the idea is that it was never a secret how to get past ad blockers. It was just never worth the money. You’d spend more money implementing the evasion than you’d get back from the ad revenue.
At this point yhey are probably using AI to do the job of adjusting ad formats, so humans especially couldn’t keep up. Perhaps AI could be used to counteract it, but that’s expensive to setup and keep running. A free software obviously can’t aford that.
Sure, they could have been silent about it, but they would still get reports about missed ads. There would be enough hubbub online they’d eventually have to address. Maybe this way they can use the attenion to get more contributors
I think too many sites run on Google AdSense (if it’s even still called that) for that to be a problem. If they give up on Google, there’s not much point.
Yep! I’ll admit, I haven’t read the news, but by what people keep talking about in comments, it seems that ublock said that the reason was how annoying it was to keep fighting against facebook, but if they had just said “yeah we’re dropping facebook’s priority, not enough ublock users go there for it to be useful to monitor their changes as frequently” it wouldn’t become that big of a sign for other companies to do the same thing that facebook is doing (also throws shade at how dead facebook is) but at the end of the day this has always been a fight of attrition and what fuels ublock is spite, and for people to have any of it they’d need to at least care about the product buried under the ads
Does this website prevent anyone else from using reader mode on Firefox mobile or Fennec?
Fascinating. After reading your post I went back and tried it. When I tap Reader Mode, it switches over fro just a second or so and then switches back to the regular page. I’ve never seen that before.
Yes this exactly. I hope this isn’t deliberate.
