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    So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

    Because a lot of the time, it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

    The dude has been in the driver’s seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.

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      He donated a million to Trump’s “inauguration” and sat in the VIP section, he was already a CEO that sucks.

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      sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

      Been on that list since he became a CEO

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        Was yours? Commenting online isn’t exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

        These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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          I’m not talking about personal actions. I personally believe in equality and I wish I could do more about that even if there are all sorts of personal reasons that’s difficult for me.

          Corporations don’t believe anything. They’re just profit optimizing machines. They were doing rainbow capitalism when they thought it would be more profitable and now that they think the opposite is more profitable, they’ll do that. It’s as simple as that and hoping corporations would be allies in a fight for equality was always based on a misunderstanding about power.

          It’s not like corporations don’t have power that can resist government action. Look at how effectively they’ve evaded taxes and regulations. The big international ones can threaten to take their ball and leave if they don’t like a country’s policies. And that’s when they don’t just bribe politicians to change them.

          The workers at those companies are people though. Labor organizing was always going to be necessary to build up power for change. Not saying it’s easy and I can’t fault someone for worrying about losing their job, but if resistance was going to happen anywhere that’s where it would be. Not in boardrooms or alone in a booth.

          But there’s the difference. It’s one thing to have convictions but not the means or courage to act on them. It’s another thing to have power, but lack convictions beyond whatever is currently convenient. The former could overcome those obstacles given the right circumstances. The latter never will.

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      It’s too hard to change anything, but only if it’s progressive policies. Fascist policies can be implemented immediately.

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        It’s too hard to change anything if one believes in laws, rules and the general idea of a fair justice. They don’t have this limitation.

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      This is what’s fucking shitty about this

      Every company and every politician and every person who bends over so willingly IS THE PROBLEM

      It’s like they announce their regime and these idiots roll out the red carpets immediately ready be the first company to suck the government off

      If they all stood their ground, it would buy more time

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      They didn’t capitulate. They never fought. They just did what was the best shot at earning money and gaining ground at the time.

      Don’t ever expect moral based behavior in capitalism or geopolitics.

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      They didn’t capitulate. They were mostly faking it all along, friend. It made for good profit at the time and to get good Blackrock or Vanguard investment money. This is why despite putting rainbows in X, or FB, or YT, or LinkedIn profiles in the USA or in some Western countries, no company ever did that in any profile outside the West. It was all for show… and money. If they actually believe it they would have done so across the board. Yet they didn’t. They were just hoping most people wouldn’t notice. Many did. There was a meme RE: this floating around from years ago, too.

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    When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it’s time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.

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      Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.

      All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.

      I’d be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.

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        I wonder if Tim Cook is there too. It would make sense for him and Apple to resist this at least somehow but…

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    More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.

    I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.

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      (For reference: I am cishet, but have family & friends in the LGBTQ+ community and consider myself an ally.) Usually just lurk, but I feel you so badly.

      I’ve been saying it forever as well. They’re spending millions, to specifically target/advertise/appeal to the community… out of the goodness of their hearts? Right.

      Then as soon as its “over”, the facade drops and its on to the next big event/target market. Rinse and repeat.

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        As a cishet I saw it what was as soon as they started it. It was about 10-15 years ago. It was sleazy then, and it’s sleazy now. They are just trying to milk the population as much as they can. They don’t give two fucks about inclusiveness or equality. They know a large portion of Americans want equality. So it’s a cash cow.

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      I mean, in the past companies wouldn’t be caught dead associating with LGBTQ+ people, let alone take their money. Now LGBTQ+ is acceptable enough for predatory advertising so…idk progress from like a fucked up capitalist perspective I guess?

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      Haha absolutely, I’m also one of the people who always said all this rainbow and green washing is bullshit. As if they ever cared for anything.

      Capitalism has no values, except for one: shareholder value. Yesterday they help sending people to concentration camps, today they help saving the world and increasing diversity, yeah, totally convincing.

      There is one thing to rely on with capitalism - if you convince people you can make good money with it or it is good for the brand, they will jump onto it and squeeze the shit out of it. An abstract, amoral force, made from a large number of concrete shitty people.

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    And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.

    Look who’s laughing now.

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      Those aren’t opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?

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      youtube is too infested with ads, to make me disable ublock origin for my favorite channels. in anycase most of the channels become greedy pos overtime anyways. outside of pet one/animals/stem ones, ones that are just gossip or reaction or like mr beasts videos are no good.

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      YouTube on mobile is intolerable these days. NewPipe is the way for Android, though Google is in a constant battle to disable it.

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    Showing how truly performative their big “ally” push was during the pandemic. All their BLM and diversity support was just as performative. Big corporations are just sycophantic monsters riding trends. Avoid them where possible.

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          Yeah, and the platform is set up in a way that hinders onboarding and discoverability of what’s there (at least, compared to youtube’s approach…). These are all problems that prevent it from replacing YouTube. If you read Peertube’s official site they even say upfront that they’re not trying to be a YouTube replacement

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        It’s always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.

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          It’s even more difficult since the content has to be stored somewhere, and needs to be streamed which requires storage and processing power, with the latter needing to be able to scale so the user experience doesn’t get bogged down by new people joining.

          The entire revenue model of compensating the host and content creator does require a rethink, but it’s hard to see how that could be done without paywalling access to host, view, and/or both of the above.

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          Kind of. I think more than that YouTube has the traffic and people go where traffic is. Especially content creators. Many content creators have patreon accounts or similar to help pay the bills. And I rarely watch YouTube without an ad blocker, which I would assume is becoming more common. Can’t exactly pay creators with revenue that isn’t there.

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          Tbh money could be the initiative. So many content creators nowadays have platforms beside YouTube. Often even self hosted weboages. If a federated alternative would come up, they could just set up an own server and keep all the earnings.

          This would somehow need to get started though. No idea how.

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    I’m not in favor of YouTube, but what exactly missing here?

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      It used to say gender expression and identity. If it doesn’t, that’s a deliberate decision that could cause enforcement calls like ‘well that’s not your REAL gender so this isn’t harassment’.

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        I mean… It’s already over-specified compared to others: “sex, gender or sexual orientation”. It’d be equally right to criticize religion for why don’t they write “belief, spiritualism, religion”, and to include identity, and expression.

        They should just write “sex stuff”, and everyone is happy.

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    I hated Google far before it was cool. I would feel vindicated if it weren’t so damn overdue. They don’t even contribute meaningfully to society. And I mean that about EVERYTHING

    Gmail is lame, their search engine sucks, chrome wastes resources, their ads platform ruined the internet, Golang fundamentally sucks, the emulation layer of android is so fucking wasteful, Material Design ruined digital creativity, etc.

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      Google search feels like it has stopped being the magic it was. Now whenever I search for something I might not find it underneath all the stuff on sale. For the first time in I don’t know how many years I’ve been finding myself using something else like Duck Duck Go.

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          I used to use Google shopping to find certain items and compare websites. Now the entire left side that used to be a filter list is replaced. When you click a “filter” option it just adds text to the search bar. Then it will include an essay about why these are your options for something and recommend top brands, but then just list everything.

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        Yep, that’s intentional. They stopped prioritizing user experience and started prioritizing ad revenue instead a while ago

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    This was bound to happen after the election results just a matter of time. Also, hate speech related content possibly gets a lot of clicks. So capitalism benefits. Next is, possibly but hopefully not, Bluesky’s official server.

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        Hopefully. If Youtube did it, who’s to say now that Bluesky may or may not jump ship? It’s an industry. However, i’m mainly pointing at the main server, other servers on Bluesky might not jump ship so fast, or not at all (ideally).

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    That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.

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      It’s frightening. Why do people not make an effort to leave Reddit?

      How can the same people run a dictatorship of the proletariat? Even democracy, I don’t see how society as a whole can avoid being manipulated.

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    While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention ‘sex, gender, or sexual orientation’, which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.

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      “Gender” means nothing without context. By a MAGAs definition of gender this policy doesn’t protect trans people, for example. We don’t know how this rule will be interpreted in practice. Even if you don’t consider the intent behind making this change, this is objectively a weaker guarantee of protection than what we had with “gender identity and expression”.

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        This is not a legal contract, it’s a general guideline for users about what is or isn’t acceptable. The intent and spirit of the terms are clear, the only question is whether Google will enforce them not. If the enforcement is crappy, like what Facebook is famous for, it doesn’t matter a damn what exact terminology they use in the guidelines.