Evil empire.
Ah, the good old Epstein class. Fightin’ wars to cover up their “tween” business. American soldiers should not be forced to defend a pedophile cabal who are somehow the most powerful people on earth. We need to shake the globe like an etch-a-sketch as the Epstein class will kill anybody or do anything to protect themselves.
are thy actualy ‘forced’ to defend them or did they conciously choose to join in this needless war?!
If all of them conscientiously objected this war would be over in like a day or two.
Iran has the right to defend itself against class traitors and terrorists
Let’s be 100% honest, it’s about oil and US will continue wars for oil just like any empire in history, we’re going after other countries resources. Hate it, love it, it’s just what empires do
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US and bombing weddings in the middle east, name a more classic combo.
Israel and sniping children?
Billionaires and raping kids?
Conservatives and molesting underage girls?
idk, I could keep naming duos…
Sounds like Israel tactics as they continue the Palestinian genocide.
No this is more like Russian tactics as they continue the Ukrainian genocide.
OK. They model themselves on Nazi Germany, who modeled themselves on slaver USians.
I’m all for shitting on Israel, and I’m sure they’ve bombed weddings before, but if anything this is a US classic.
who do you think pulls the pedo-blackmail strings of the diaper filler in chief
The Statesian capitalist class. The idea that Israel controls the US is an attempt to scapegoat Israel now that public opinion on the Zionist entity has reversed. Israel may be a genocidal settler-colony, but it is only so because the US supports it for their own imperialist interests in the region.
“Statesian”? “Zionist entity”? You talk like Jordan Peterson.
You know there are much simpler, more descriptive words for these, yet you choose these 5 dollar words to sound more academic and thus more respectable. Academia is not about obfuscating ideas and obscuring reasoning.
If you want to have grown-up conversations, you have to use grown-up words.
I didn’t realize Jordan Peterson was an anti imperialist. I’m not an academic, I chose my words deliberately to convey my feelings about the subjects.
Jordan Peterson is a grifter who uses big, confusing words around polarizing subjects. Like this:
https://www.wisdomofpeterson.com/
So you use words like “Statesian” out loud when you’re talking in-person?
Do you think “Statesian” is a big, confusing word? I don’t acknowledge “America” or “Israel” as legitimate states.
If you think everyday words are $5, get a weekly vocabulary lesson for free, online. It’s not up to us to dumb ourselves down all the time, drag yourself UP, and get the needed hand.
Hey, they are copying the plot from Homeland.
“President of peace” everybody. Just making sure the ENTIRE world hates the US.
Hates its leaders. I have no hate for my American brothers and sisters
Obama did the exact same thing.
There’s never been a POTUS who didn’t.
These types of comments never elaborate or talk about other relevant things like how Obama didn’t take us into a full blown war with Iran
Obama did destroy Libya. Is your point that it was better to turn Libya into a country with open-air slave markets and massacre thousands of people, or is your point that it’s better than the Iran War because it didn’t backfire as splendidly?
Leaving out the context that Libya was in a civil I’ll war and actively killings its citizens. This actually had some stated purpose.
Whether it wouldve been better to not intervene we can’t know but what we do know is based on his actions and words have stayed consistent since he’s been in office. It give you an idea of his intentions.
This was when retired four star general and former NATO commander, Wesley Clark, disclosed a plan circulating around the Pentagon in 2001 to attack 7 countries in 5 years. The countries named mirror the ones targeted by the PNAC group, as Iraq, Syria, Iran and Libya were all listed in addition to Lebanon, Somalia and Sudan.
Libya had some of the highest living conditions in the region under Gaddafi. While it wasn’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination, it is now a failed state. The reason the US murdered Libya was because Libya was sovereign and preventing the penetration of US capital. Obama wasn’t trying to kill a bad guy or anything, he and the imperialist class wanted to plunder Libya.
And wondered why soldiers drone-bombing civilians from the comfort of air-conditioned offices, thousands of miles away, got PTSD.
Exactly!
Why don’t you use the same internet you’re using to look it up? You’ll remember longer.
Obama has been maligned for it too. Trump deserves the same ridicule.
The world did already, but just not enough to cut (economic) ties.
Thank goodness for the rise of alternatives like China and the increase in south-south trade, undermining unequal exchange by keeping the wealth within the global south.
As if any other U.S. president in modern history was any better 🤣
Just making sure the ENTIRE world hates the US.
Bush Jr took you to the brink of that (after marching towards that cliff hard with other previous admins)… the US only needed a nudge to get there and electing a child rapist was like taking the off ramp into the void
There’s a big difference from “we’re going to rename French fries” to “we’re going to invade Greenland”.
The tankies are all over this thread, any opinion that doesn’t view democrats as somehow worse than republicans is downvote brigaded. They’re not serious people and never engage in good faith and they’re all fucking over lemmy with their alts and sock puppets to get around the ml and hex instance blocks.
Well, on lemmy downvotes mean even less than on reddit, so honestly who cares. Everyone needs a hobby…
Bush did a ton of evil shit… let’s not pretend he was just a silly goose
What in the enhanced interrogations could you be talking about? The man just wants to paint puppies, why are you being so mean to him?
What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) to hate the US?
Before you answer, let me remind you that most people don’t care about anything that happens to anyone more than 100 km from them.
Bombing Iraq and Afghanistan? Those are far away and there’s always a war in the middle east.
Torturing people? Par for the course in America.
So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don’t care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count?
I think when you say “most people don’t care” you are still just referring to the USA population
The question was about “the world abandoning the US”. What I think is irrelevant, look at the opinion polls in 2005 and 2025.
What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies)
So, you think that the world begins and ends with the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan?
I’d love to be proven wrong, but bombing weddings and torturing people doesn’t make people abandon the US. Tariffs on the other hand…
So invading Afghanistan and Iraq was justifiable enough for you?
Doesn’t matter “to me”, I was about public opinion, and it barely moved the needle, because at the end of the day, it didn’t affect the average Joe.
The comment thread you are replying to was about actions that made America hate its enemies. Not anyone’s personal opinion on the justifiability of these actions. I think you are confusing their suggestion that the verbal attacks against France/Greenland made the entire world hate the US more than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan for a comment on whether these invasions were justified, perhaps in a knee-jerk, strawman-like fashion.
The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards.
The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions
No, it didn’t, that’s the “knee-jerk” thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and “anti-semitism”.
Didn’t even need to, I walked there fine.
It’s the same high-control, unhealthy policies though, that includes all the hate on LGBTQ+ people too. That was big in his terms, anti-gay ballot initiatives based on lies that hurt people, that turned out the prejudiced base to elect him and others that caused damage here and abroad. It’s always regress and ruin progress, and, yes, the latest maga version of the party is even worse.
To be fair, the US became the world’s imperial hegemon after World War II. What changed is the advancement of social media, making it far harder to hide the crimes of empire. Vietnam was the first real exposure to televised war in the west, and the media was key to the anti-war movement. The US then exerted tighter control on the media apparatus, but this is much harder to do with social media.
Even Iran figured out how to just shut off the internet when everyone was demanding too much freedom for women. It’s not hard to do with social media, it’s hard to do with a populace that is accustomed to freedom.
And by listing the three major US enemies (currently) in two comments, with reasoning provided by their very media apparatus, you’re the prime example on how the tighter control on media (and social media) actually affects the populace. Thanks for participating.
I’m not American. Russia is no longer a US enemy, listen to what Trump is saying about Putin.
Since when is Trump’s word gospel? Also, who cares, if you’re US-American.
You declared I was “the prime example on how the tighter control on media (and social media) actually affects the populace” solely for the reason that I “list[ed] the three major US enemies”. This is akin to how Trump supporters declare every criticism of Trump as “TDS”, or how Israelis claim every criticism of their country is “anti-semitism”. You can’t shut down a conversation like that here, maybe on .ml, but not here, people are more curious, more prone to individual thought, more prone to asking questions.
Trump’s word isn’t gospel, his actions are too, like how he fought his own party to prevent sanctions being placed on Russia, or how they are the only country he hasn’t placed tariffs on.
You declared (…) solely on the reason (…)
No, I declared you a prime example, because you were immediately using Whataboutism hinged on these three main adversaries (and none other), which only exist as a narrative because the US government declared them as such and you combined these name drops with western propaganda talking points in an attempt, and as the sole reason to comment at all, to discredit a well formulated critique of the US … on a post about the US committing war crimes. It’s like a learned behaviour.
listen to what Trump is saying about Putin.
Trump’s word isn’t gospel, his actions are
It’s getting confusing.
Russia is not “the only country he hasn’t placed tariffs on”, as the US actually has placed tariffs on Russia, as well as heavy sanctions. But you know, the importance of tariffs vanishes, if you can just sanction a country out of the market and into compliance, anyway? There’s also almost no tariffs on the DPRK or Cuba, because they are heavily sanctioned already. Namely secondary sanctions (which are against international law), that disallow other countries to trade with the sanctioned countries.how he fought his own party to prevent sanctions being placed on Russia
Maybe it’s me, but I find this to be theatre. But maybe you can write down your actual thinking on how the overall dynamics work here., you sound like you’re heavily on the Krasnov theory.
Iran shutting off the internet ultimately helped prevent Israeli penetration. Mossad had active elements stirring up unrest and terrorism in Iran.
But the protests for women’s liberation were real, and the Iranian regime shut off the internet during those protests in order to suppress them. Even if Mossad was involved in stirring up that unrest it does not justify the state crackdown, nor can it be denied that there is grassroots support for women’s liberation in Iran. If you want your country to be less susceptible to manipulation by foreign agents your best bet is to give the people what they want so that they aren’t negatively polarized against their government in the first place. Every injustice enforced is an exploitable weakness that your adversaries can seize upon.
You’re taking to someone that unironically claims North Korea is a legitimate communist state. Also uses gpt for all their comments. If you’re engaging in good faith you’re wasting your time because cowbee is a pure tankie propagandist.
I do belive the DPRK is a legitimate socialist state, yes. The economy is worker run and controlled. They are incredibly poor, largely due to sanctions, but like Cuba they stretch what they do have very far. That’s also why Cuba and the DPRK have such strong and positive relations, with Cuba only recognizing the ROK in 2024.
As for the idea that I use LLMs for any of my comments, that’s false. I sometimes copy chunks from older comments if I have already addressed a topic in detail, but I have never used any LLM for any of my comments. No idea where this came from, other than the fact that some of my comments are longer, which really is just because I’m a yapper.
I am definitely a communist and a propagandist, I agree with that. I believe socialism to be necessary, and devote time and money to organizing work and outreach. I definitely fit the definition of propagandist as someone deliberately trying to get people to become sympathetic to socialism and communism and join an org, but that doesn’t mean what I say is incorrect either. It’s all true.
I agree that women’s rights not only can, but should be improved in Iran. The important nuance here, though, is that social progress is severely stunted when a society is under active siege and infiltration. All states inevitably become more repressive than they otherwise would be when their legitimate security concerns are relentlessly violated. The quest of the Iranian people for social progress is interconnected with the quest of the Iranian people for sovereignty.
Mossad infiltrating the protests, that started with legitimate grievances, exacerbated the violence in an attempt to weaken the Iranian state, preceding the war. It was deliberate, and not for the benefit of women in any capacity. Iranians now are more socially cohesive than before the protests ramped up precisely due to the resistance against imperialist aggression.
I agree with all of that except for the inevitability of repression in a society under siege. Yes, that is a historical trend, but it’s also a choice that leadership makes, and it’s the wrong one. If the Iranian government made concessions on women’s rights, queer rights, etc. while holding firm on national sovereignty it would reduce the level of negative polarization the Iranian people have towards their government giving Mossad less to work with to destabilize Iran.
I can agree with it being the morally wrong decision by leadership while also understanding that the progression of history is driven primarily by material conditions, rather than the actions of individuals. The social struggle in Iran is one that is driven by the consciousness of the masses in Iran, and their struggle at this moment is principally against Israeli and Statesian aggression. Unfortunately, the fight for women’s rights in Iran cannot be genuinely struggled against when Israel and the US take every chance they can to leverage that into being able to commit genocide against the Iranian people.
Would it be excellent if women’s rights were improved from the top-down in Iran? Yes. Is it likely to happen? No. This is why taking a materialist analysis of the Iranian war and events leading up to it is so critical for understanding our historic moment.
Regardless, the Iranian people presently near-fully support the IRGC and the Iranian government. Even if some do have a desire to socially reform Iran, achieving better rights, right now it’s secondary by far to surviving the war and maintaining sovereignty. That’s why these struggles are interconnected so closely.
You should watch Johnny Harris’ video about the Western puppet regimes installed in Iran.
Maybe worry a little more about US laws restricting freedom for women lately.
I’ve actually already seen this video, and it doesn’t change my stance. Iranian leadership has a choice in how they respond to foreign manipulation and they do not have to respond with repression of their own populace for fear of their adversaries taking advantage of social unrest when they could instead reduce social unrest by making concessions.
Cowbee, Iran shut off the internet because people were protesting for women’s rights. This was years before the Israeli/American bombing campaign. Stop simping for authoritarian regimes. You sound like an American liberal the way you apologize for their actions.
He is literally a propagandist that never engages in good faith. I’m not sure if he works for republicans or actually believes his bullshit but he’s definitely doing work for Putin.
I have always engaged in good faith. I don’t work for republicans or Putin, I spend time and money organizing as a communist.
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ran shut off the internet because people were protesting for women’s rights
Iran shut of internet because of organized attempts at insurrection using women’s rights as an excuse. UK/US want another puppet in place shitting on gold toilets selling out the country cheap.
Two things can be true. Personally I think women’s rights are a great reason for insurrection.
They weren’t a reason. They were an excuse.
What you are actually supporting is invading and subjugating Iran.
Also, it is amusing how you (plural) keep speaking about women’s rights when as supposedly a valid reason to invade other countries (a la the white supremacist fairy tale of “civilising savages”) while your empire actually died stuff like the overthrow of the socialist government of Afghanistan that did improve women’s rights.
Mossad openly admitted to being active in Iran:
Go out into the streets together. The time has come. We are with you. Not only from a distance and verbally. We are with you in the field.
If Mossad’s official Twitter account admitted this, how can you say that this wasn’t a critical factor?
You’re dodging the subject. Israel has been fucking with Iran for decades, that’s not the question. The question is why are you okay with Iran shutting down the internet to stop a women’s rights movement?
I’m okay with Iran shutting down the internet to stop a Mossad-backed color revolution intended to pave the way for the modern war against it. Do you think between the protests and the bombing of Minab elementary school that Israel and the US suddenly decided to get involved, or do you realize that this was a part of the actual plan the entire time?
The people of Iran should be able to chart their own course, free from the interference of the genocidal US and Israeli attacks.
China and Russia figured out how to do it with social media. Most of their people don’t even know of their empire’s crimes.
That’s not really true, though. The US has a far more sophisticated media apparatus, that has existed for longer. China’s censorship is open and well-understood by the population, the US’s is secret while pretending it doesn’t exist. Further, neither China nor Russia are “empires,” not for centuries in China’s case and about a century in Russia’s case.
That’s not really true, though. China and Russia have a far more sophisticated media censorship apparatus, and their polling indicates they have no idea the level of propaganda they are being faced with every day. Half of Americans hate their own country, and are free to post about it on the internet, and consume media that aligns with their view, without fear of being arrested like Ding Jiaxi.
And tell that to the refugees of China’s raping of its neighbours fish zones, or Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine.
From the other day:
https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2026/08/29/autistici-inventati-trump-terrorists-news/
“A single signature by Trump can remove you from the internet”
The internet is not a neutral space. A country having its own social media platforms instead of letting American companies harvest their citizens’ data is not truly censorship.
their polling indicates they have no idea the level of propaganda they are being faced with every day.
You’re being solipsistic. Not everything you disagree with based on personal whims is “propaganda.”
Lots of countries have their own social media platforms. Only China will jail you for posting questions like “how much do our leaders make?”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ding_Jiaxi
Only Russia will jail you for posting “I disagree with the war.”
Only Iran will jail you for posting “I think women should have more rights.”
You’re being solipsistic.
Nobody talks like this. Nobody in the real world says this. I know you’re capable of talking without using 5 dollar words to obscure logic and escape from an argument in a cloud of poor reasoning.
Not everything you disagree with based on personal whims is “propaganda.”
That’s right. But we’re not talking about whether or not Captain Picard is the best Star Trek captain. We’re not discussing disagreements on personal whims. We’re talking about whether or not an unelected state apparatus with the power in the hands of a handful of rich elites should have total control over everything you’re allowed to see and say. That’s propaganda. That’s what’s going on in Russia, and Iran, and China. And probably America soon, the way they’re headed with Trump.
America soon? America was always controlled by the elite, since 250 years.
I’m afraid you’re being maliciously obtuse. There is no need to criticize my pretty regular vocabulary. And the fact that you think the USA hasn’t historically been at the center of the imperialist propaganda machine fruther confirms the need to end our conversation.
“No you” is not a compelling argument. Why is it that you believe Russia and China to have a more sophisticated propaganda apparatus, despite the US’s propaganda apparatus existing for centuries longer, with far more money behind it? Further, the idea that speech is free in the US is horribly wrong. Left-wing media and organizing like the subpoena of BreakThrough News and the attacks by Marco Rubio on the DSA, PSL, and even individuals like Hasan Piker prove that what matters is that only capitalist speech is allowed, while workers are crushed.
Chinese censorship targets those that undermine their socialist system. This is openly understood, and thus subversive organizing is also targeted, just like in the US. The major difference is that the CPC is a worker-party, and is thoroughly subject to the will of the entire working class. This is why Chinese citizens have much greater approval for their own democracy than the US does:
And to drive the point home, the bottom 50% of China has been consistently prioritized, while elsewhere the poor are discarded and left behind:
Meaningless sloganeering is not an actual way to understand the world. If we flail about in vulgar “whataboutisms” rather than genuine comparistics, then we will fail to actually see what’s going on. We must, as the Chinese Marxists say, seek truth from facts. We must not presuppose a conclusion and justify it based on ideology.
Why is it you are aware “no you” isn’t a compelling argument, and then proceed to make a “no you” argument?
You make bold declarations like “the US’s propaganda apparatus existing for centuries longer, with far more money behind it”, with absolutely no evidence or sources to back up these claims.
China does not target people who undermine socialism. It targets people who undermine capitalism. People like Ding Jiaxi, who called on Xi Jinping and other top-level government officials to lead the way in dislosing their financial assets.
Trump supporters in Red leaning states also have extremely high approval ratings for their leader, this is evidence of the efficacy of propaganda, not democracy.
An unsourced image comparing China to America proves nothing to anyone, other than the fact that you are locked in a propaganda campaign to manufacture consent for a new cold war.
I agree that meaningless sloganeering is not an actual way to understand the world. So why do you do it? Do you accuse me of “whataboutisms” while engaging in them yourself in a Trump-style tactic to dismiss any such accusation as more “no you” arguments?
The Chinese are not Marxists, and they do not seek the truth, they bury it.
It’s good that you read about the subpoena of BreakThrough News and the attacks by Marco Rubio on the DSA, PSL, and even individuals like Hasan Piker.
Read up on Ding Jiaxi too.
I did not make a “no you” argument, I explicitly addressed your argument and changed it to one of comparistics. I referenced hard data and gave a materialist response, drawing on the immense improval of living conditions in China.
The fact that the US’s propaganda apparatus has existed for centuries longer can be understood by the simple fact that the modern Chinese and Russian states are less than a century old. Both saw immense changes in societal makeup and organization between the old states and the new. The US emerged as the world’s imperial hegemon in the aftermath of World War II, as I already explained earlier, while China was just forming its new society and attempting to overcome the problems of feudalism. The USSR, meanwhile, dissolved in 1991, resulting in the modern Russian Federation and intense economic devastation, devastation that resulted in the single greatest drop in life expectancy in history outside of wartime.
As for Ding Jiaxi, he was organizing directly against the socialist state of China, in a subversive manner. This is openly understood to be illegal in China, as it is in every state. China is a socialist country, not capitalist, so the process of developing socialism comes through reform, not subversion. China has been governed by Marxist-Leninists since 1949, and this has only strengthened under Xi Jinping. More schools for Marxism have been opened in China, and the CPC has over 100 million members.
You do not have an argument, you merely copy and paste what I said while changing keywords. This is ineffective propaganda on your part at best.
You’re talking to a .ml user.
The wedding was 2 weeks away from development of a nuclear weapon! 🫲🍊🫱
“Big If True. Substantial IF Substantiated. Large if Realized”
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Reports were firm they had yellow cakes.
This is murder man
Been going on by USA for >20 years.
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You’re kidding right!? More like 250 years.
More like >250.
How old do you think the USA is?
Settler-colonialism began in Turtle Island well before the USA was founded. The colonies did not appear out of thin-air on 1776.
If anything, they disappeared into thin air in 1776
Is the USA that OLDDDD?
I’m aware that people are going off the founding of the USA 250 years ago, but it did not shake up the general settler-colonialism that already existed by much.
That’s an Israeli trick. I wonder if that’s where we learned it?
Call it a congineering project.
No don’t worry the US had already been using those since manifest destiny.
Making more terrorists. A time-honored American tradition
Sympathies with the poor volunteer Americans that have to put up with crappy food while bombing the wedding 💪🦅 🇱🇷
Prepare to see the US behaving more like Russia these days.
NATO: does the most NATO thing ever
NATO liberals: “what are we? A bunch of <insert current designated enemy ethnicity>?”Including a Draft. Trump will wait until after the Midterms, but in January, he will sign an Executive Order to start a draft, which allows them to scoop up any troublemakers for resisting or protesting the draft.
Military Age Males, MAMS, are always a big interest for the military. They represent the enemy, and they represent the best demographic for replenishing our own side. American MAMs that aren’t in the military represent a threat, and will need to be corralled. A Draft allows the government to take control of their autonomy. When there is a Draft, MAMs lose their freedom.
And they’ll handle the draft just like the Russians, too, driving around and kidnapping MAMs off the streets.
And they’ll extend the Draft to women, too.
Apparently this thread is being brigaded by the Russian/Chinese/Iranian bots. Even Cowbee himself is here to apologize for and deny any crimes of Iran.
Apparently this thread is being brigaded by the Russian/Chinese/Iranian bots
“Love” the racist dehumanisation from people who support invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan, the genocidaires of Palestine.
As is tradition
The US loves to blow up weddings murdering civilians and of course most importantly killing children.
Another in a long proud line of weddings being bombed by America.
They got the gift of freedom.
