It’s only illegal if you do something about it.
Fuck you Pichai, you fucking banchode.
I read about the displaced wildlife. This is really horrific. Their government should ban Google from the country, take back their land and make them pay to reforest. Fuck Google. I was a little complacent with my Gmail but I’m done. This is just fucking awful. In this state of global warming these assholes ripped up a whole forest. Fuck them.
So then remove the data center once it’s built. Tit for tat.
Or not allow it to be built in the first place.
The government knew this was coming when they approved the data center. This is purely theatrical outrage. Those Representatives have been bought and paid for.
I bet their politicians allow it to happen.
Well Finland you do want to keep making anti-Russia hysterical propaganda, yes? AI is the way these days.
Russia doesn’t need anyone’s help to make people anti-russia. The thieving warmongering orcs are doing a good enough job all by themselves.
Open to hearing your thoughts, but I think what you might be seeing is a combination of
- people who don’t like the politics on Reddit are more likely to be here
- Canadians who are angry at the current american administration (and likely historic actions as well), are more likely to oppose the US and policies/entities associated with the US
- our instances make up a larger part of the threadiverse
- people who don’t like the politics on Reddit are more likely to be here
filters exist. this is literally a world news community. world news includes a large portion of world politics. perhaps blocking the community would help.
- Canadians who are angry at the current american administration (and likely historic actions as well), are more likely to oppose the US and policies/entities associated with the US
this post has nothing to do with American politics. in fact, I believe this community deletes any posts about American politics (regardless of if it’s still world news).
- our instances make up a larger part of the threadiverse
laughable and irrelevant.
Fine them $1 Billion per tree, AND they have to pay to replace every single tree at its market value for it’s age.
Once that’s all done, then they can request permission to build a new data center, which will be declined. Fuck Google.
I used to work in a municipality that had a fee of $2000/caliper inch for illegally removed trees and placed a conservation easement over the critical root zone, preventing the developers from being able to just cut down the tree and pay the fee.
Is this the actual plan or are you just making suggestions?
This is a nasty thing to do without proper permits and I fully support Google getting slapped for it. For a country who has practically relied on forestry for 100+ years, the native Finnish subcontractors that everyone uses for these things are surprisingly bad at doing it properly. Last year another company casually crushed over some protected freshwater mussels while doing cuts – which was enviromentally speaking actually a much worse thing than what Google did this year.
The final responsibility is still Google’s though, of course, but those subcontractors really should have more sense and understanding in what they’re doing.
All that said, let’s calibrate the magnitude of this disaster. The felled 300-400 hectares of commercial forest. That’s about 0.06% of the annual forest harvest in Finland.
Google getting slapped for it
Are you nuts? They deserve the guillotine. Every single one of them. Fuck them. Pieces of shit.
Last week, Google’s Finland country manager, Antti Järvinen, apologised for the forest clearings but claimed the company had acted “on the best understanding we had of the legislation at the time”.
That understanding being “it’s more profitable to just to it and pay the fine”
Process the fine for each tree individually. And of course they can’t do anything with the land until the whole thing is processed.
So do something.
Yes, please. Fellow Europeans do something. It’s so easy. /s
almost as easy as rebelling against an orange shitstain.
Will only get worse from there, if no action will be taken now.
I really hope Finns will find organizers to stand up.
Each tree is priceless, and the forest is more than the sum of its parts.
Expropriate Google’s assets to make up for some of the loss.
Ban them for a year and fine them for triple what is a fair penalty.
Otherwise it’s a business expense
“When will these Fins rise up and do something?Don’t they see what is happening and they are just sitting around doing nothing. They voted for this.”
Looks to me like YOU guys voted for this, not the Fins
USA does not have jurisdiction over Finland, just sayin’
At the end of the day the rest of the world will decide who they deem responsible. Just like humanity has always done in the past. If America destroys the world, the world won’t care if half of the country was not in support of it. They’ll shun you nonetheless.
Those who control the USA control other places as well
Sure do, assuming we’re talking about the billionaire Epstein class.
It’s almost like while people outside the US are watching what’s happening there and judging they’re ignoring the rise of the same in their own backyards.
Will the Finns show Americans how to appropriately respond to quashing this behavior, or will they capitulate?
Finns need the global protests to come closer than Belgium to act
You know who’s well poised to bring protests to Finland? The Finns.
There he is
If you need to belittle someone online to feel better about the inaction of your country, go ahead I don’t mind. But the times in which you got to determine how the world sees you Americans, are over.
There should be criminal investigations over that and prosecution of Google employees or their contractors, whoever was operating in Finland (and someone had to). If that was indeed all legal, than laws need to be changed.
The “move fast, break things” shtick. They mean laws with it. Worst case, you pay a fine.
If the world was a just place they’d pay a fine and pay to have new trees planted where the old ones where removed. Anything short of that is simply the cost of doing business.
You’re not wrong, but Google didn’t just take the trees. They stripped the topsoil:
After the tech company illegally stripped the entire area to build a datacentre – taking even the top soil with it – all that remains is a vast expanse of mud indented with the trail marks of machinery, puddles and mounds of earth, roots and branches.
Wonder why. Wouldn’t have anything to do with making sure Google could not be ordered to replant the illegally felled trees, I’m sure.
So now they should be ordered to replace the topsoil, then replace all the trees, and to pay a massive fine as well.
