• huppakee@piefed.social
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      4 months ago

      I’d personally prefer to see individuals boycott the world cup over politicians forcing their country to withdraw. Would also look good if stadiums in Mexico and Canada were filled to the brim, high viewers world wide while the teams play in empty stadiums in the US, barely any company paying to advertise, nobody buying all the US merch and Trump handing out the trophy in the US and then have the winner fly to Mexico or Canada to celebrate.

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    4 months ago

    Germany has a moral duty to speak up much louder against the crimes against humanity that ICE is committing.

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      4 months ago

      Given how popular football is there, this is actually quite loud if they do move to a boycott.

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        4 months ago

        It would be an earthquake. but let us be realistic: that’s never gonna happen. there is way too much money involved.

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          4 months ago

          I’m a german football fan and I love the World Cup and the Euros. That being said, I would love it even more if the DFB actually pulled out of the World Cup. We have to stop hosting these events in fascist countries.

          BUT, if only the DFB would pull out it would certainly not be an earthquake. Big football nations not qualifying for the WC is certainly news, but it does happen and I’m certain the event would go on as usual, even without Germany. Now, every UEFA member pulling out, that would be an earthquake felt around the world. But I feel like we have better chances of the orange turd exploding spontaneously than that happening.

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              4 months ago

              Money? No.

              It’s the perceived power and willingness to get up and do bad things under disguise of keeping status quo.

              And most people won’t stop them.

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      4 months ago

      Germany’s not even willing to officially say that perhaps Israel should handle things differently in Gaza.

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    4 months ago

    That would mean that the DFB has to have a backbone, because let’s be absolutely clear… they are, in point of fact, nothing but great, supine, protoplasmic invertebrate jellies

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    4 months ago

    Been waiting a year for this to happen.

    If Europe didn’t get the wakeup call, it’s now or never for sovereignty and maintaining the semblance of rule of law, and economy.

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    4 months ago

    I was thinking last night how we should have a new soccer organization and ignore this corrupt pos one.

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      4 months ago

      This is so fucking painful. I hope they themselves didn’t believe they were actually making some ‘powerful statement’.

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        4 months ago

        This was mainly seen as at least doing something, rather then being shut down completely. To be fair the only team to actually make a more powerful statement was Iran, which was mainly due to everybody else doing nothing.

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          If this is the best that can be mustered, that’s just painful.

          That’s not to say the Dutch position wasn’t even more pathetic. They wanted to wear a so-called rainbow captain’s armband which didn’t even actually depict a rainbow, but they were too afraid to do even this over potentially getting a yellow card.

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        It’s still the most powerful statement by a football team that I am aware of, so there is that.

        I wouldn’t mind something more powerful, like the abolishment of FIFA or straight up found an alternative organization.

        Until that is happening I’m not gonna watch the World Cup, not buy merch and I’m not even going to wear the merch that I already own.

        I might use my fixed vuvuzela to mess with people that are watching.

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    An opportunity to take down both Trump and FIFA. Hell yes. FIFA are corrupt beyond belief anyway so who cares, them giving Trump that golden statue was probably the least objectionable thing they’ve done recently.

    Also I really really really want to see them trying big up a match between Haiti and the Maldives because all they have left is the little teams that no one cares about.

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    It’s the president of St. Pauli who said that. St. Pauli is strictly antifascist and has recently formed a cooperative to buy the stadium, so it’s not really representative for German soccer officials in general (though still a good thing to start this discussion).

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      If they get South America on board then that’s basically every heavyweight team. I don’t know how the rest of South America felt about the attack on Venezuela, but it seems worth looking into if a European boycott actually does go ahead

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      Honestly, a boycott of the US after going along with Qatar means even more in the discussion.

      Because it means the US is considered to be worse than a theocratic oligarchy

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        Define “worse.” Qatar definitely didn’t threaten to invade EU territory and annex it.

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          That would be one example of the US being worse.

          Just in general, the US seems to treat both Europe and its own population worse, compared to Qatar.

          And that’s assuming all the slavery accusation of Qatar are 100% true.

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          No but they did build the entire World Cup stadium complexes with actual slaves. Only a few hundred died and everyone still went

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        I don’t think they would be prepared to take over it fully in time, so it would probably just be cancelled.

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    If the fans don’t attend and seats are empty that will also send a message. Not sure if there are enough people not wanting to go to make that a reality though.

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      I’d already decided I wasn’t going to go simply because I don’t trust ICE to keep it in their pants. That was before the killings, I’m even more firm than that conviction now.

      They could be very explicitly given instructions to stay away from tourists but it won’t matter because they wouldn’t be able to help themselves. I’m surprised insurance companies are still prepared to offer insurance to travel to the United States, it just seems like a bad move for them.

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    If the German’s are saying to boycott football then you know there is some serious shit going down.

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      They just love corruption so much. The other thing Trump did (and also got convicted for) is fraud. Last year alone he “made” $3B selling access to the US gov. FIFA loves corrupt government leaders.

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      I think it’s their policy at this point to give the world cup to human rights abusers because it’s cheaper and it makes them more money. So in a way, indirectly, yeah they did.