While streaming, the rapper performed a Nazi salute and said: ‘Heil Hitler’

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    I don’t understand how there can be black people in favor of Hitler. How do they rationalize praising someone who would have genocided them?

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      “I’m different, he wants to clean the dirty ones”

      “why am I being loaded into a train I’M DIFFERENT”

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            Yeah, good idea, we can even make long lines of them in a well-organized convoy. Maybe the ones in front and back can control the ones in the middle.

            Then to make sure they stay in formation, we can physically link them together, but with a bit of slack to turn and such.

            In fact, we could even make special roads for these convoys so they get maximum fuel efficiency while also preventing them from accidentally drifting off of it. These roads would be exclusively used by these tesla convoys.

            When these roads have to intersect with normal ones, we will give the convoys right of way, with some sort of movable barrier blocking the other cars from crossing.

            Yeah, this idea is shaping up. Imagine all the people and cargo we could move with this hyper-efficient system.

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              You know, if we made individual cars larger so they could hold more people or cargo, this idea could get really efficient!

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                Larger… You know, large cars really should have a semi standardized format, you know, so you always know what to look out for. Like containers! Imagine that, a container on wheels, it has so much space for people and cargo!

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              Can we have levers which toggle which direction the group of vehicles travel on? We could then rest people on different paths and have their loved ones make life altering decisions by choosing to pull or push the lever.

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      History lessons in the US focus on the Jewish victims of the Holocaust to the exclusion of all others. Plenty of people don’t know that gay, trans, leftist, or non-white people were genocided.

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        Even white people. Slavs for instance. Anyone considered crippled. Political enemies.

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          Slavs weren’t really considered white back then. “White” as a social construct goes far beyond skin color.

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            “white” is a US idea. Like Irish not being “white”. Third Reich cared about Aryans, similar but different rules.

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        Yeah, but isn’t he Christian? I think “Jesus Walks” was one of his songs. Jesus was absolutely Jewish and Christianity was a sect of Judaism for decades, maybe even hundreds of years. I’ll never understand hating the people that founded your religion.

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          If you’re a Christian, you believe that Jesus was the Messiah and that modern Jews deny that. It’s not really a contradiction.

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            Again, it was a sect of Judaism for decades for sure, probably centuries. It doesn’t matter what you believe.

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              It’s not controversial that today’s Christianity is descended from people who saw themselves as Christian Jews, Jews who followed who they believed was the Messiah. I’m just saying that there is no inherent contradiction in following Jesus and hating the Jews who did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus being a Jew himself doesn’t really matter, since in this situation he’s kind of a special case.

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                It’s not controversial that today’s Christianity is descended from people who saw themselves as Christian Jews, Jews who followed who they believed was the Messiah.

                Yes, they are both Jewish, no matter what word you put in front of them. Both Jews.

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        You’re right, but it’s definitely different depending where you live. I went to a high school in the New York suburbs that was largely Jewish. If I had to guess I’d say 30%, with the rest being a mix. We had holocaust survivors come to speak once or twice while I was there. I graduated in 06. Our teachers did not skimp on any of that. The stats were certainly focused on jews, but they also didn’t leave anyone out.

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      He got inspired by the Black Hebrew Israelites, a pseudo-religous group that believes african americans are decendents of jews.

      If I recall correctly from his infowars Interview (or somewhere else around that time), he came to the conclusion that since he’s a jew, he gets to decide if hitler was a good guy or not. It didn’t make much sense and I don’t recall why exactly he came to the conclusion that he as a good guy, but I think he said something like “There’s only love, so he cant be a bad guy”.

      It’s possible he thinks black americans are the real jews, that hitler was doing a good thing with killing imposters.

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        You omitted the part where his girlfriend sucked his balls in public whilst traversing the waters of Venice in a gondola.
        That should be topmost when defining his mental prowess.

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          He all but forced his wife to show up naked to the Grammy’s - there’s video where it looks like she’s trying to argue with him about it.

          Plus that “wives sell pussy for life” line - a big part of this is misogyny. He’s got some extremely disturbed attitudes towards sex and women, and is dangerous.

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      In the case of Kanye… fell astoundingly far down the antisemitic conspiracy rabbit hole.

      Before he went turbo-mega-ultra Hitler fanbo1 on Alex Jones… he was saying a lot of shit about how the entire entertainment industry was run by a cabal of Jews who secretly fucked over himself and other black artists in particular.

      … He completely lost his mind in this process and has arguably been having the world’s longest sustained, continuous, psychotic break (I think he’s been far more obviously just unhinged bonkers for longer than Elon?).

      He legitimately hated and hates Jews so much that the actual Hitler stuff came afterward.

      How does he rationalize that Hitler would absolutely have killed every Black or African descended person he could, that he switched from being inspired by American rascism to calling the US a ‘mongrelized’ people, because of American society’s multiracial makeup, interracial marriage etc?

      Easy: He’s completely insane and legitimately should be in a room with padded walls.

      Logic? Reason?

      404 error.

      Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?

      Yeah, doesn’t go so well.

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        Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?

        I haven’t. How’s it go?

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          Not well. As RedditRefugee notes…

          They do indeed usually incorperate you into their personalized, uber conspirstorial worldview.

          If you have ever heard the phrase ‘Targeted Individual’ or ‘Gangstalking/Gangstalkers’… these are phrases commonly used by schizophrenics in online communities… who, having broadly similar underlying thought processes and lived experiences, will and do gather on the internet and discuss their … paranoid/persecutory delusions… and they do seem to have largely agreed on those phrases to describe their individualized, specific experiences.

          I believe at one point, reddit had a fairly large r/TargetedIndividuals or r/TIs subreddit, something like that… not sure if it still exists or is active.

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            The “targeted individual” stuff is sad. There’s lots of tiny YouTube and TikTok accounts where people plead to their imaginary tormentors to stop, or angrily rant about how they’re ultimately going to win.

            I posted on the TI subreddit a few times trying to encourage people to reach out for help/take their medicine, but yeah - you just become part of the conspiracy, or you simply don’t get it.

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              So… yeah.

              I just wanna say… they’re not ‘imaginary’ tormentors, in the sense of someone playing make believe, who can just … not do that.

              They cannot turn off the voices in their heads.

              They cannot control the fact that they have vivid visual, audio, tactile, olfactory etc hallucinations that are indistinguishable from actual reality, that their memories of past events can basically just have things that did not actually happen… formed or inserted as a ‘core memory’, or things that did actually happen… wildly warped or just removed.

              So… what do you do, show them a video of what happened, with them in it?

              Nope, thats fake, thats not them, that is their doppleganger, that is their evil clone.

              Nobody really knows how to ‘fix’ this, or if its even possible.

              Antipsychotics generally just make them more docile and less prone to aggressive outbursts, but they also have massive sideeffects… they often do not actually stop the actual ‘unreal’ experiences.

              It is nowhere near as simple as ‘stay on your meds and all the hallucinations go away.’

              The result is that… they cannot trust anything… because quite often, the psychiatrists and other medical people they see will basically manipulate and trick them into beleiving the meds … are a cure… insinuating or even directly stating that their meds will solve the problem.

              There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?

              I had an ex who … developed into severe schizophrenia.

              Shit sucks man.

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                There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?

                Certainly. When I was inpatient I saw them drug a man and lock him in a small closet.

                The state won’t investigate the fact that I was assaulted - they sure as shit won’t ever believe anything that man says.

                I don’t understand why the state of the mental health system is so fucked. and why no one seems to be trying to fix it.

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                  … My ex was SA’d by a staff member during one fairly long term stay.

                  Managed to get that guy fired, but not … you know, prosecuted.

                  The state of mental health is fucked because mental health, at its core, foundationally is built off of ‘how do we pathologize and treat people who have trouble being or cannot actually be any kind of an ideal employee.’

                  No one fixes this, or homelessness, because … no one cares, these people have no money or power, they are viewed as drains on society, instead of potentially productive members of society, or even fundamentally as just… human beings with consciousness/souls.

                  It is a structural issue with literally all of society, and the severely mentally ill, and the homeless (which often coincide, what a shocker) are literally the untouchables class.

                  We like to think we are more modern, more enlightened, more decent… no, we are not.

                  We are just better at technological propoganda and treats and distractions.

                  … Maybe there is a world where … now that the veil of this has been shattered by the rise of fascist MAGAs… maybe, down the line, this will lead to some kind of equivalent social/philosophical reexamination of how… we do everything, as there was after WW2 and the Holocaust… maybe that could be our future.

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      Basically, cognitive dissonance. They simply refuse to believe the truth, and make up their own fantasies in which everything is backwards from reality. It makes them feel like they have some power over their life, and/or that they’re special.

      99% of the time people like this are just deeply freaked out at the idea of a cold uncaring universe with nobody in control.

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      Some people will gladly sell out the group they belong to, even when it’s absolutely obvious that they will also be targeted later

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    From the article:

    In February, Friends actor David Schwimmer called on Musk to ban Kanye West from X after he made a series of antisemitic posts.

    Schwimmer called on Musk, the owner of X, to remove West from the platform. “This is so 2022,” said Schwimmer. “We can’t stop a deranged bigot from spewing hate-filled, ignorant bile… but we CAN stop giving him a megaphone, Mr Musk.”

    Bold of Schwimmer to assume Musk in any way disagrees with Ye’s views.

    Elon is not just holding the megaphone, he’s actively cranking up the volume dial.

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      I find it strange that David Schwimmer made a public plea for decency when it was about anti-semitism but not for any of the rest of the hateful shit projectile-blasted around that echo chamber.

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          He’s also rich and Jewish, probably doesn’t give a fuck about any injustice unless it’s antisemitism.

          Edit: so it turns out he’s spoken out against injustice plenty of times before, when it wasn’t about Jews. He even lobbied to get more non-white people on Friends, such as his character’s Asian-American girlfriend. It’s not all disingenious with him, even though his support of Israel is regretful.

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            Unless he’s puling a Seinfeld when I wasn’t looking, I’ll reserve that judgement for another day.

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              Yeah, see my edit. While he’s spoken out in defense of Israel, he does also have a track record of opposing injustice where he sees it even if it doesn’t affect him or people in his own ethnic, religious or other groups.

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            Like the wealthy asian celebrities decrying antisemitism and not stop Asian hate? Or the black celebrities campaigning to stop Asian hate, not BLM? How odd for someone to speak out against hate for their own group. Never happens! And how terrible that a person with power, who is like every other person with power, in that they don’t ever speak out, for finally using their platform. This place is antisemitic including your barely dog whistle comment that you wouldn’t make about any other ethnicity. Unless your history has hot takes about the Palestinian celebrities not speaking up for the Zapatistas, of course. Because your comment wasn’t just bc Jews, right?

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              He’s also pro-Israel and at this point in time, I reckon that zionists are morally on a similar level to nazis, and David Schwimmer does support them. Or at least he was at an ADL event recently and I don’t think I’ve heard him say genocide is bad?

              However, the comment a couple of levels up is incorrect. Upon just a little bit of research, I’ve discovered Schwimmer has also attended BLM protests, and has spoken out against violence against women as well. Which means he does actually care about injustice and I’m gonna have to add a disclaimer to my previous comment.

              Anyway, my comment in its original form was meant as mostly anti-rich-celebrity. To be clear, I’m anti-zionist too, but not antisemitic and never meant to come across that way. My thought process was that anyone living in America who truly cares about injustice in general should be worried about injustice against black people and latinos first and foremost, other ethnicities and religions second, so anyone who only wakes up when it’s injustice against Jews, is probably either a bit self-centered, or outright zionist. Well, David Schwimmer clearly didn’t JUST wake up, he’s been woke for a long time now. To be clear, I mean that as a good thing.

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                Appreciate you spending the time to write all the clarification. I believe you. Just an FYI how it sounds, not just from you, for a year and a half.

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      Once the number on your bank account crosses a certain threshold your right arm practically lifts itself it seems

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      I’m guessing it’s pretty hard when you’re a has been and are desperate for any publicity.

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    So some commercial American social media still ban Nazis? How long will they be able to do that?

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      Don’t worry they ban those nasty people who say ‘‘racist’’ at 10x the rate of people spewing hate speech.

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      Even his speach sounds like schizophrenia. My bio father is schizophrenic and he also.talks about how everyone is tryng to.fuck.with him.

      If this.man was screaming in the midle of a street like a homelesa.person everyone would see the mental.health problem, but since he is rich…

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      I’ve only ever seen his tweets and people quoting him in articles but watching him speak for 7 minutes is eye opening. I cannot follow a single thing he says. It’s just a non-stop stream of consciousness rambling with an occasional “hail hilter” and “I sucked my cousin’s dick”.

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      It’s so weird seeing this guy in 2025. He seems like some zombie wearing a Kanye skin and using his voice. No longer the person we used to get hyped for. Eerie. Hope that never happens to me.

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      Man idek what this guy is saying. Some tidbits here and there, paris hilton, netanyahu, elon musk, some hitler stuff.

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        I think it’s his wealth that made other people not voice their opinions towards him. Which sometimes people like this very much need.

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    I guess I’m glad Twitch took a side on that?

    After Bezos went full nazi on the Washington Post, I have expected the worst of everything Amazon.

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      Kanye just isn’t subtle enough with his anti-semitism.

      I just checked and Hasan is still on the front page of Twitch. So don’t worry, Amazon is still profiting off of anti-semitism.

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    He should come to Germany and do that here and then we can hear from him from prison for the next 12 months and he will be banned from performing here for the next decade.

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        We got freedom of speech. But when it harms people, it isn’t just speech anymore. Cause violence against innocents and you pay the consequences.

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          I get it.

          but the “Free Speech Absolutism” that Vance is talking about, demands the right to call you a N****R without consequences. Or say that you need to be killed because X Y Z.

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    Drugs in the 90s were responsible for great music and dead singers, drugs today won’t work as fine

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      So the thing is he’s actually off his meds according to a lot of people. Blame the lack of drugs instead of the drugs