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DeepL translate is pretty good too.
this is a helpful image. thanks for sharing
Very good list, this is recommendable.
Where is DeepL?
As much as I want peertube to succeed, I find it so cumbersome to use for finding worthwhile content to watch. It might be out there but he’ll if I can find it.
Aurora isn’t really anti-google as it’s merely a different front end for Play (that you can use anonymously).
Need more calendar options such as mailbox.org.
Good start though!
Yeah, plus all the android alternatives are just different android distributions.
It’s important to recognize that Android distributions without Google’s (spyware) Play Services are vastly better for privacy than the commercial Android distributions that ship on most phones. To overlook/minimize that difference by calling them “just” different Android distributions is misleading.
I mean yeah I know they’re better, I run lineage os, but it still is just another android distribution, not a real android alternative. I feel like the people who just want safer android are going to be confused by them being called “alternatives” and the people who want an alternative know that they aren’t really alternatives.
The need being served here is for an alternative to Google’s spyware, not for an alternative to Android.
The Android operating system itself is not a significant privacy problem. (It might seem like one because most Android distributions include Google Play Services, but without that, Android is pretty tame and very useful.)
Agree on the calendar. In particular would like to find one with map integration.
Mailbox is pretty good. The UI is a bit clunky, but so far I like it.
Aurora isn’t really anti-google as it’s merely a different front end for Play (that you can use anonymously).
You could say the same about Piped, which is just an alt front end for YouTube.
None of these alternatives seem to tackle the networking effect of the root Google services. None of them address durability, either. Proton VPN launched in 2017, Google’s been around since 1998. Microsoft’s been around since 1975. IBM’s been around since 1911.
If you don’t mind rebasing your entire digital profile every five or ten years, these alternatives are fine. But most people don’t want to ditch a 20 year old email address or fiddle with a brand new OS, when enshitification can be right around the corner for any of these services in another few years.
Ffs, I’d just finished putting the shine on my PLEX server before they shit the bed.
I use Tuta for email but damn if the Tuta calendar app isn’t god awful. I don’t know if they improved it (this was like 6 months ago) but I couldn’t duplicate events and I would both get phantom notifications for old deleted events and I wouldn’t get notifications for updated events.
I’m somewhat glad I’m not the only one getting phantom notifications. I got one last week for a deleted event. It took me a minute to figure out what was going on.
I’ve been debating leaving Tuta and switching to mailbox.org. I’m annoyed by the lack of support for standard protocols like S/MIME and SMTP. As far as I understand with encryption, I can only send encrypted emails to other Tuta users in practice. Yes, I can send emails encrypted with a password. But it kind of defeats the point if the password has to be sent unprotected where an attacker could just use the password to unencrypt the email themselves. The lack of SMTP support also means none of my self-hosted services can send emails.
The good: I have never seen ghost notifications or wrong notifications. The bad: it’s still ugly but I don’t mind.
Youtube’s alternatives looking really sad :( Love me some Invidious but an actual alternative would be so cool. Peertube is that on paper but missing content aside i think the UI is really holding them back it’s just not inviting at all.
Anyone have experience with Kagi translate or LibreTranslate. How privacy respecting are they?
Are there any alternatives such as a self-hosted local translator?
You can run LibreTranslate locally in a Docker/Podman container. iirc it does need a few GB of space to download the model.
I only played with it for a little bit maybe like a year ago and wasn’t super impressed by its Japanese to English translations, but that could have been me just not setting it up right, or maybe its improved since then. I didn’t try any other languages
Proton also has mail and password management.
This is an ad. At least tuta marked it but that doesn’t make it way better.
All YouTube “options” are YouTube frontends. All android “alternatives” are android - which isn’t the guides fault as there are none in my opinion. Still unserious from my point of view.
It’s once more a catch all “guide” that doesn’t guide but simply mentions enough popular alternatives to get popularity.
OP’s account exists for over a year, but this is the only participation in the fediverse ever. No other posts, zero comments… WTH?
they even listed calyx which is currently taking a long nap and is not secure
And as mentioned elsewhere, many cited alternatives are not degoogled at all.
And when you go that way you should go oner or two steps more and look for open source alternatives. I’m pretty sure some listed aren’t that either.
There are better curated, less biased lists out there.
“Oh hey, an alternative to Google Translate!”
Oh…
What’s being recommended is LibreTranslate, which isn’t the same. LibreTranslate is server software. On Android, you can use “Translate You”. I co-maintain Dialect, which is an app for Linux. We host a server at https://lt.dialectapp.org/ , so feel free to make use of it.
This is a single unofficial client for the mentioned software. LibreTranslate itself is fantastic.
newpipe? do they have non-youtube videos?
i the actual recommendation there would be peertube
I’d recommend Tubular over NewPipe. Tubular is a fork with extra features such as SponsorBlock.
Not sure about NewPipe, but PipePipe also has Billibilli, peer tube, band camp. Think there was another.
Look at “Supported Services”
I probably found the answer faster than the time required for you to write the question.
Maybe do a basic search before asking questions.
I always thought newpipe is just a YouTube front end and never thought there are supported services to even ask in the first place.
Not responding would have required even less time and would have provided this community with equal value :)
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asking questions in forums is useful so users can read the answers, thank you for your service
What non-google chromium based browsers would you guys recommend?
Firefox (and derivatives) are slow as shit on my laptop, but ungoogled chromium is fast enough.
Non Google chromium browsers?
My friend, Google develops chromium.
Ungoogled chromium has always referred to browsers based on chromium, but not branded as Google chrome.
Maybe people should stop making that distinction
How do you differentiate them then?
I don’t. All chromium browsers are google’s. Some companies may add their own flair, but that doesn’t make them less google’s. It adds to the marketshare and makes it so people don’t target other browsers because of it.
Degoogled chromium is legit though for when only that engine work
That’s a misnomer. The development is managed by Google. Degoogled means callbacks to Google are removed. That doesn’t mean Google isn’t still in the driver’s seat of its development.
It’s hard to recommend any Chromium-based browser in 2026 as Chromium no longer supports Manifest v2 extensions, breaking support for essential content blockers like uBlock Origin.
Even Brave, which has a built-in adblocker not based on extensions, is loaded with AI and Crypto bs, and as far as I’m aware, the adblocker portion of its code is closed source. This isn’t even mentioning the horrific political opinions expressed by the CEO of that company.
I keep a copy of raw ungoogled Chromium around for webUSB firmware flashing, but that’s it.
If I were you, I would try and figure out what is causing firefox-based browsers to run slowly - i.e. toggling on/off hardware acceleration in browser settings and see if that makes a difference.
sure wish mozilla would get their head out of their ass and implement webusb already
Thorium is excellent, but I’m not sure if it’s still being regularly updated. Also interested in alternative chromium browser reccs, if anyone has any.
Try Vivaldi https://vivaldi.com/
Probably best alternative to Chrome, sync with mobile/super-customizable
Also, quite active in Fediverse https://social.vivaldi.net/@Vivaldi
I’ve been using Cromite (fork of Bromite) for a year or two and the dev has only been consistent with pushing updates.
This is exactly what I’m looking for, thanks!
Literally the first I’m hearing of Tuta.
Are they legit?
A Canadian law enforcement member accused them of being a honeypot. They’ve denied it. You’ll have to make up your own mind.
https://gizmodo.com/tuta-email-denies-connection-to-intelligence-services-1851022465
Don’t move accounts straight away. They ban people with no appeal in the first couple of days if account is sniffed as suspicious. Also 6 months inactivity gets you deleted
Yes. No issues.
They’re legit and I’ve been on their paid plan for a few months now. I don’t like the UX of their app. Often feels slow and laggy and outdated. Probably will switch to Proton or something else when my 1 year plan ends.
Proton has almost the same feel and layout.
I’ve actually been using Proton (on the free plan) for a couple of years before going to Tuta on their paid plan. I can say that the UI of Proton feels much better.
- The search in Tuta’s inbox often gives no result despite me searching exactly what’s in the subject line
- The custom notification selector in Tuta Calendar sucks
- Tuta Calendar feels sluggish
- You can’t select whether to send a message as plain text or as HTML in the message composer?? Why do you have to go into the preference page to change this??
- When you open a message in Tuta Mail, it often fails loading the message and I have to press Retry multiple times for it to load the message properly
As far as I remember, none of these were problems back when I used Proton.
You probably already know this but you have to expand the dates of your search because it saves the email content securely on your hard drive before searching.
There are some quirks to get used to on both but neither are off-putting.
I don’t like the scrolling on either and think the message box defaults too small sharing space with too much other stuff. But it’s the same in both platforms.
They made this pretty sweet advertisement!
It’s not perfect, but I chose them over proton because I was able to get my first.last name. I haven’t had any issues so far over the last few years.
One of the biggest things is you have to use their client, no 3rd party clients like thunderbird.
If you’re already going through the trouble of leaving Google… leave subscription services altogether.
Think about the reasons and headaches involved in your Google migration: you don’t control their policies and what they do with your data, they can keep raising prices or killing features you want, migrating platforms is a mess, you are at the mercy of their abstractions and APIs, a board of directors change could turn the company into the opposite of what you trusted it for… Guess what, exactly all of the same points apply to Tuta, or Proton, or whoever else.
Don’t repeat the same mistake, don’t find yourself looking for a “de-Proton your life” guide 8 years from now. Have your pictures in your computer, there are many easy ways to organize, browse, and sync them. Keep copies of your music. Keep backups, they’re automatic, encrypted and compressed nowadays. Have your own calendar and notes, you can pick from a multitude of choices with any UI imaginable. Sync your files with SyncThing, it’s faster and more powerful than whatever “cloud” you could get.
What about the email? How do you deal with the issue, when everything needs a registration, but it doesn’t accept your kadu@kadu.ninja custom email, because it “doesn’t look like a legit address”? That happened to me multiple time with a smaller provider. Also you might not be able to send mail to e.g. gmail because you don’t have the latest <insert whatever certification> on your server. Or when your server gets hacked, it sends a shitton of spam, gets blacklisted, and it will be impossible to get rid of that
For email you could self host if you learn a bit about warming up and deliverability, but I agree that’s the only exception where people should just use an online service.
Though for privacy, I do use the custom domain with Purelyemail as the host, but if a site is trashy enough to not allow me to use my email - then I distrust it automatically, and use a Gmail account I don’t care nor use for anything but accepting those email confirmations for account creations, or when stores force me to say an email before adding a coupon or something like that.
Are we doing ads now here? And are we, like, OK with it now?
On second thought you’re absolutely right. Report created.
edit: oh, this is YSK, I was thinking more about IT communities.
Bruh chill a lot of these are FOSS
This is an ad for Tuta, which server side software is, AFAIK proprietary. You cannot self-host.
I don’t want brands to think there’s a loophole they can exploit by half-heartedly endorsing FOSS for nefarious advertising. “Coke tastes great with the user agency of Linux” is still an ad for Coke.
A lot of these are filler. It’s an add for a specific product disguised as one of this endless lists, but they couldn’t stop themselves from being obvious
Yeah and that Tutao stuff looks pretty appealing with those nice bold letters and top placement.
I was also wondering about the order of the alternatives.
It feels like the first entry is the “best” to replace tge google service but IMO some are not even close to other lower placed alternatives.It’s still better than the vast majority of similar guides that are posted. Most of them seem to be proton ads, which is an objectively worse thing, and most others have stuff like brave on the list. And it’s not like they tried to hide it here, it’s right there at the bottom. Seeing them actually give alternatives to even their own things is great IMO. The only fault here was OP not making it clear in the title where the image is from, no matter how obvious that is.
