TLDW:
Brazil is requiring OS level age verification by march 17th, 2026.
New York about to vote on a law that would “require all manufacturers of internet-enabled devices, operating systems, or application stores to conduct commercially reason-able and technically feasible age assurance for users at the point of device activation.”
In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.
If the speedrun strategy is “introduce a stupid law, wait for everyone to go ‘holy shit none of this can be realistically implemented in this timeframe’, wait for OS vendors to just ban the use of the OSes in the country, watch the local industry as a whole to rally and petition the government to stop the madness before there’s a new dark age, repeal the clearly stupid law”, all before the California law comes to effect - I’ve got to say it’s a bold strategy and we’ll see how it plays out.
Edit: Also, not going to upvote a Lunduke video - I’m glad he crams every bit of substantial information in the thumbnails so I can just not listen to him at all
Everyone panicking when this is exactly how it will go.
How on earth are they going to enforce this in smaller IOT chips? I just got an esp32-c3 for like $1.50. I highly doubt that things is able to run whatever bloatware they are going to require.
Sounds like they make these laws specifically to arrest you.
“Woops, your dishwasher has no age verification, now we can arrest you and make you confess whatever we want”
It literally only requires a single bit flag.
And pointing to where that bit is, and what that bit means, and proof that that bit is immutable.
You don’t know anything about software development do you.
Will be selectively enforced and they’ll gradually tighten down over time.
Hardware that can be manufactured on larger nodes can’t really be stopped, and the (black) market for both old and new free hardware will be big, considering all the things that will inevitably be banned. As always, don’t comply in advance
can we stop linking to lunduke (he’s a transphobe chud)
He’s a small hat zionest
It’s gonna be fun when people are sitting around a campfire talking about how bad tech ceos, wall street backed corporations, enshittification, corrupt politicians and fascism all led to the extinction of the tech golden age… as they prepare their spears to fight the next wave of machines coming to harvest them.
Pedal powered microwave.
Can’t wait
You’re way too optimistic.
I’m putting my money on Mr. Burns, A Post Electric Play.
There must be some kind of higher-managed plan on this man. Everything seems to be so sudden and coordinated it just cant be a coincidence. I am NOT giving my ID to use my computer
A conspiracy of global elites? Pffft.
That’s crazytalk.
It’s not like Peter Thiel ,one time president and current member of the BILDERBERG steering committee , and a bunch of other dudes who worked at PayPal are solely responsible for the trajectory of technology…
Or like some forum on economics somewhere in the world would coordinate economics, and make some crazy plan with a super unbelievably literal name like agenda 2030 with the dude at the head saying “you’ll own nothing and you will be happy”
I mean… Crazy. Right.
The rich should have already been filleted and cooked.
Haha imagine if they were all pedofiles, rapists and total degenerates too. haha. HA HA. No way, too crazy right? Pandoras box is open.
I know that at a basic psychological level, a person generally must be some form of antisocial/sociopath/psychopath,narcissist to become a billionaire.
Does becoming a billionaire simply allow for/encourage more extreme levels of behaviors or are they predisposed?
Is it a rite of passage/secret handshake, or is it just “perks” of being evil?
Pretty soon you’ll be hearing folks say things like “why are you worried if you don’t have anything to hide” as if personal privacy has no value whatsoever. It’s a slippery slope!!!
@TriplePlaid@wetshav.ing @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de @technology@lemmy.world
For me, a Brazilian, there’s something I must hide if I want to be employable: my occultist practices, my religion. I’m a worshiper of Lilith, surrounded by mostly Christian people. I literally heard “faux-jokes” (when people want to condemn someone, but wrapping the condemnation as a joke) tying my belief to “ending up in hell”.
Even though my legal name isn’t difficult to find through my pseudonym, you can imagine why I use a pseudonym to openly express my religion. And once digital activity is tied to my CPF (Brazilian citizen/legal identity), and I’m definitely not buying the “anonymized checking” arguments, suddenly potential employers and buyers/merchants will know I “worship the devil” and will have yet another reason to refuse hiring me or buying/selling things from/to me.
Also, some of Lilith imagery and stories involve content which is sensitive, subjected to those very “age check” laws, further making it necessary for me to comply to “age checks” whenever I want to read or write, observe or do drawings about the fundamental deity I worship.
But according to certain people, “having something to hide = must be a criminal!!!”. Because they’re likely followers of some mainstream religion which is not socially persecuted, or religion isn’t something significant in their lives.
Seriously. I’m truly tired of this world.
Thank you for telling you story. I’m sorry that you are in the position you are in where you can’t freely be yourself around others.
Damn, and meanwhile I literally have a shirt that’s in a pattern of an inverted cross that reads “Lucifer died for our sins” that I pull out to make the religious cross the road from me.
I say fuck it and make them normalize to a world that doesnt include their bubble but I also have bad self preservation.
@Krauerking@lemy.lol @technology@lemmy.world
Wow, LOVED the shirt! 🖤 Ágios Lux ferre!
I, too, do use a similar t-shirt, whose print I designed myself tries to depict Lilith. From afar, the print isn’t that explicit, though: to the average bystander, it’s depicting a pale woman with glowing red eyes, dark red lips, straight long dark red hair and feathery dark red wings (certainly mistaken by others as angelical), holding a red rose flower. Even the text (“Rebele-se pela”, Portuguese for “Rebel yourself for” at the top; “Liberdade”, “Freedom/Liberty”, at the bottom), which is stylized (gothic font), is too small to be read from afar. The only tell is the mirrored ⯝ (the Venus/Feminine symbol but the circle is a waxing Moon; in my art, it’s actually a waning Moon for Her Crone/Reaperess aspect) tattooed on Her left cheek, and the dark wings.
The problem is how the country I was born into is utterly christian; most employers and merchants are christian, especially in small towns (one of which I reside in), which are known for “quermesses” (annual church fairs). And when the majority of potential employers, especially the local ones, are utterly christian, saying out loud about professing a different religion risks one’s own economic and social existence.
For example, a Mãe de Santo (leadress of a terreiro, which is the Afro-Brazilian sacred place of gathering) was refused an Uber car ride after the driver reprimanded her for her clothing typical of Afro-Brazilian, then she sued the driver for religious intolerance, but the judge denied her request and ruled favorable for the driver, inverting the entire situation and arguing “it was the Mãe de Santo who was religiously intolerant with the christian driver”; the judge was reported for being religiously intolerant (news articles in Portuguese), but the damage is already done).
Those became headlines, but there’s a plethora of religious intolerance going unnoticed, social ostracism caused by simply having another faith other than christianity; it even risks body integrity (e.g. gangs such as Primeiro Comando da Capital torturing and/or murdering practitioners of Afro-Brazilian faiths).
This is the persecution me and many others are fated to face as soon as age checks, tying online activity (where I don’t measure my words to praise Mother) to the legal ID, end up (inevitably) leaked (e.g. Discord age check DB leaked just days after implementing age checks).
Polish Roman Catholic background. Not exactly tolerant either and now I live in a place that famously is Mennonite and Amish.
That is a far more creative shirt than mine, wearing your own style is always incredible. However…
If they will make you suffer why not suffer on your own terms for a cause you think worth it? Why wait to be starved by someone’s hand other than your own?
I mean I get being scared of it and don’t make it a habit to hurt yourself needlessly. But I would rather live a life being myself as much as I can and be good to those who deserve it and let the weirdos who have a problem with it suffer my existence rather than the other way around. They don’t wish for my existence? To bad they can suffer, because I exist.
But I said I have bad self preservation skills, we all can’t make it out of this world alive, and I have no intention of cheating the game.I wish you safety and health though. Its not good to feel at the whims of others.
@Krauerking@lemy.lol @technology@lemmy.world
Polish Roman Catholic background. Not exactly tolerant either and now I live in a place that famously is Mennonite and Amish.
Oh… I’ve heard about the Amish… So it’s practically a similar situation over there.
If they will make you suffer why not suffer on your own terms for a cause you think worth it? Why wait to be starved by someone’s hand other than your own?
Yeah, you’re right. There’s a part of me who thinks this way, too. I guess this whole age check thing will inevitably push me in this regard.
I wish you safety and health though.
Thanks! Wish you the same.
It’s not a slippery slope, it’s a drop into a pit fall.
It is a slippery slope, we just happen to have already slid down it most of the way and are imminently about to be falling off that cliff at the end of it…
I have nothing to hide. I also have nothing to show you.
You close the door when you poop and you don’t broadcast your WhatsApp messages on time square.
Get fucked.
Make sure to be clear that fake IDs are things you can make and use to bypass this. If using fake names on the internet isn’t unethical to you all why are Fake IDs as a subject avoided like the plague?
In fact this is a person identification
Who wants this?
Groups that want to remove anonymity from the internet.
Christians. Republicans. ICE. MAGA.
ice?
What about the UK, Australia and the European Union, then?
The evil Christians don’t stop their nonsense at borders. That shit is universal, man.
My argument is that it’s not Christians. That is a simplistic view of the stakeholders.
Take it far enough and you’ll always unmask a Christian that thinks the internet is sin.
The UK has had “Big Brother” since before you could still run straight through a pre-9/11 US airport terminal and tearfully declare your love to your childhood sweetheart before they boarded that plane.
All things considered, life isn’t that scary here.
13 days 😂 Tell me you don’t know how software development works or how operating systems are developed without telling me.
Unless someone already has age verification ready to go and wanted to be a monopoly for a while.
CTO at Microslop: QUICK, VIBE CODE THAT AGE VERIFICATION, WE GOTTA BE FIRST ON THIS
[turns the data center cooling pipes from the nearest freshwater lake up to 11]
looks at Palantir
And Persona (it’s from the same guy).
Neither of which make OSs
You might want to look into who’s funding NixOS…
link pls
Anduril is a huge donor/sponsor of Nix Foundation and NixCon
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/andurils-threat-is-existential/70811?page=6
https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cfbz26/should_nisos_have_accepted_the_anduril_sponsorship/
Although it seems to be a matter of debate within the Nix community as to the nature and scope of open-source software and what limitations, if any, can (or should) be imposed…
This is my theory about California and age verification. As soon as alternative mobile operating system are getting better there’s suddenly a law about operating systems requiring age verification? Maybe I’m just paranoid.
HMMMMM kinda sus tho ngl (I’m serious)
They are taking the power of personal computing away from us…
They can pry it out of my cold dead hands
I feel like there is a line coming with hardware and software and that will be the last of it’s type as the move towards subscription based services is forced onto everyone. Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets. It just means I’ll have my basement crammed with old tech and I’ll go full old man mode and stop keeping up with technological progress.
Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets.
I’ve been truly stunned these past several days to find out just how many people, not even crazy facebook people but just average users on Lemmy, pay for a ChatGPT subscription.
They just don’t care.
I had a mental health professional suggest using ChatGPT to make a day planner, it fucking floored me. We are not in the majority here and it sucks when that sinks in.
Too bad you will need hard drives for that. And all the rest.
No no. OLD tech. Books do not require hard drives.
Books like “A Canticle for Liebowitz”
Thats my plan.
This will make it more anonymous because verification relies on a token defined in the OS rather than uploading identification.
Pretty much. They‘re essentially outlawing privacy so there will be no point in resisting. This is worse than Orwellian.
If anyone has recommendations for ways to preserve personal computing, please share at !homecomputing@piefed.social
Consumer tech fucking sucks. We tried you guys. Time to call it quits on the internet and personal computing. Humans ruin everything.
Yeah, I’m kind of excited to explore what kind of activities outside has come up with since I was a teenager. Gonna have a lot of free time now that computing won’t be fun anymore.
“You need to use the app to reserve a space for the public park.”
This is actually true to visit national parks now.
*unregulated corporate greed
Downboats for Lunduke
who exactly gonna stop me from downloading an operating system from massgrave or linuxtracker? bunch of burocratic morons.
