Wang Yi cautioned against a return to the ‘law of the jungle’ but stopped short of criticising Trump directly

War in the Middle East “should never have happened”, China’s foreign minister Wang Yi has declared, even as he struck a more conciliatory tone with the US ahead of a highly anticipated visit by Donald Trump.

Regime change, a key stated aim of the US president as the US and Israel continue to attack Iran, “will find no popular support”, Wang said on Sunday. “A strong fist does not mean strong reason. The world cannot return to the law of the jungle,” he added.

Speaking on the sidelines of China’s annual parliamentary and political gatherings, known as the Two Sessions, the country’s top diplomat and foreign affairs official notably avoided directly criticising the US.

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    It would never have happened if Kamala was the president and if it had she’d have ended it in 24 hours.

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      Larp larp

      Kamala called iran to be americas greatest adversary Pledged to have most lethal fighting force Also supported israel openly

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        Was mostly meming about the bs Trump has been spewing by using his words about Ukraine but yeah I’m fairly convinced she would have not started an illegal war against Iran together with Israel… or let Israel completely steamroll Gaza while making plans to transform it into a holiday resort for the rich.

        Also, who cares if he called the US military lethal, that’s in fact a true statement but it matters whether or not you use it to start illegal wars and settle personal grudges, rob other countries of their natural resources, kill civilians in the Caribbean or bomb schools with almost 200 little girls because the rules of engagement are “bold” etc.

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      The far left gets offended any time you suggest things would be better if trump wasn’t president. Strange…

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      Democrats need to stop nominating the lesser evil if they truly want to stop the greater evil.

      The problem is the ones who live in mini-mansions don’t want to pay more in taxes, so they convince everyone under them that raising taxes is a bad idea.

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      Exactly. It would restore my faith to their good intentions if they’d call their puppet out of Ukraine. But their only true goal is to try and fight the US in all thigs they can (without pissing them off ofc), so two-faced.

      It’s likely not going to take that many months when they will resort to that ”strong fist” too. Tech giants know this too and that’s why they need to get all the chips they can NOW because it’s going to be a few years of no chips from certain areas…

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      You don’t understand the situation. China does not consider Taiwan a separate independent country, and has never recognized it as such. Unfortunately USA and most of the world has agreed to accept the 1 China policy, which means Taiwan is not treated as a real country in many international contexts.
      China see Taiwan as an occupied part of China.
      So by their definition they are within their right to attack Taiwan, including by international law as they see it.
      So in their view, they can say this, and attack Taiwan, without seeing that as a double standard. And the west has basically agreed to it from a legal perspective. But at the same time USA say they protect Taiwan, which would traditionally have meant likely the rest of NATO too. But now NATO is in shambles because of Trump, so maybe USA will be alone now. America first!

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      How’s this post related to Taiwan? Do you have to talk about the island every single time China is mentioned?

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        It’s not related to Taiwan, but that commenter made a connection. Do you not get it?

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          The western lib obsession with Taiwan is unbelievable. China hasn’t entered a war in 50+ years, it’s literally inconceivable for the western mind that China actually has good trade relations with Taiwan, because you can only understand violence and sanction, as is the case of Cuba by the US.

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            Using ‘lib’ as an insult just exposes the idiocy, thanks for self reporting.

            Red MAGA, Green MAGA, it doesn’t change.

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              It’s not an insult, it’s a description of your political position, a shortening of the word “liberal” in the USian sense of the word. I’m not even from the US, you can hardly call me MAGA.

              What’s green MAGA? Genuinely curious, I never heard that before. Maybe following the teachings of Gaddafi’s green book?

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            The exact same Principle applies to judging the Russian aggression against Ukraine, the American and Israeli aggression against Iran and the possible Chinese aggression against Taiwan.

            The difference for the latter is that so far it has only been threats, hence only concern about the possibility of it happening is justified, whilst judging China for it is not justified.

            Not saying that some (maybe even most) people knee-jerking “Taiwan” as soon as somebody says “China” aren’t being good little propaganda-driven muppets, rather I’m saying that some are not and their concern comes from personal principles around aggression and self-determination.

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              The exact same Principle applies to judging the Russian aggression against Ukraine

              The Russian republic had armed conflict in the 90s and 2000s with the Chechen wars, it has precedent of militaristic attitudes.

              the American and Israeli aggression against Iran

              The US had armed conflict in the 90s, 2000s and 2010s, and Israel has been genociding Palestinians since its inception

              and the possible Chinese aggression against Taiwan

              China doesn’t have a recent history of militarism. It’s pure speculation and kinda senseless looking at China’s attitudes towards Taiwan and their extensive trade agreements.

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                Communist China has invaded and annexed Tibet.

                So China when governed by the very same political force as governs it now is a proven imperialist.

                They’re also more powerful than Russia and on their way to supplant the US.

                It makes total sense to be worried that a powerful nation which under a government of the same ideology as governs it now has done so, will invade another far weaker and much smaller neighboring country which they’ve been consistently claiming to be “part of our nation” for decades.

                What it doesn’t make sense is to blame China for something they haven’t actually done, only talked about.

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                  Communist China has invaded and annexed Tibet.

                  This is over 50 years ago as I said, and you’re mischaracterizing what happened. Tibet was a feudal kingdom where the vast majority of the population were starved serfs legally bound to the land of their god-given lord. China liberated Tibet from feudalism and rose life expectancy and material conditions massively, while preserving their heritage, language and culture, and a degree of autonomy within China higher than most other regions (Tibet is an autonomous region).

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      That’s what Xi keeps repeating, that reunification is only possible by continuously strengthening economic, cultural and even political ties. Western media keeps trying to claim he wants to “take Taiwan by force” but there’s never a source, it’s always “read between the lines” of his speeches.

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    A Zionist state should never have happened.

    American electing a president which supports a Zionist state should never have happened.

    This aggressive war is one link ina much larger chain of things which should never have happened, as is the next link, the war crimes already commited by the aggressor states.

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    Well I mean how else was the president going to distract us all from him being in the Epstein files millions of times.

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      It was never about that. There’s already been a lot of instability in Iran (massive water shortages) and this was just an opportunity to put their foot on Iran’s neck to cause even more instability. With that instability created and oil prices going up, it will cause global inflation. With things becoming priced out for regular people it will cause some markets to crash, then the ultra rich will buy up those things and consolidate even more wealth and power.

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      • Universal health care.
      • Financial help for the poor.
      • Free music performances in all states
      • Large momnument construction
      • Investing in local infrastructure
      • Visiting sick kids in a hospital.

      Probably a lot more of those. And none of these involve killing people.

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      Theyre just taking advantage of a golden opportunity for PR.

      I don’t believe its honest, given what goes on inside their own borders.

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      Its pretty normal for anyone who isnt a wesern liberal🤷‍♂️

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    Well yes, but he assumes the Trump administration has at least an iota of competence, when really they’re the administrative equivalent of a monkey with an assault rifle.

    EDIT: I’ve been contacted by the Monkeys With Assault Rifle Association (MWARA) and would like to issue a formal apology for this false equivalency, as it was an insult to their competency. They sure made a monkey out of Trump.

    EDIT2: Again, I’d like to issue a formal apology…

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      Hello, my name is Mr.Captal. thorhop wont be around anymore, he has been conscripted to fight honorably in your leaders holy war. Please accept my apology on his behalf.

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    So troubles in the shadow organization? China’s handlers not on board with their prophecies? Nah, fake posturing

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    China has to speak from both sides of the mouth. Iran is a client and source of its oil. US is a client and source of its $1 trillion dollar trade surplus. China needs both of them.

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    Just about everything that tRUMP is even remotely connected to almost definitely shouldn’t have happened.

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    It’s insane how poised China is to be the next global leader.

    Idk why Americans are so stupid, but they get taken advantage of every day because of it.