If I owned a Tesla right now, I’d be in a bad situation. I sure as hell no longer want to be seen in one. The market for them has crashed, and nobody wants to buy one used. If I could afford a Tesla, I’d surely have insurance… I’d be rooting for somebody to set that shit on fire

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    Nah fam. I hate Elon, but I love my 2020 model 3 like a child. I won’t buy another Tesla most likely, but I’m not selling A CAR for political reasons. That’s mr moneybags level shit. Especially since it’s bought and paid for.

    I’m gonna drive this till it breaks. I saw one with 500,000km the other day on it. So who cares about after market.

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      Bruh, buying a car that is newer than 10-years-old is Mr. Moneybags shit. Look in the mirror.

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        Newer than 10y? I think that’s just poverty shit.

        Buying a Tesla is a big expense and does indicate wealth. But it doesn’t mean the person has money to buy and sell new cars every 4 years. I drive cars till they die like any normal person. I just happen to be able to afford middle-expensive new cars.

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          They are pretty average priced these days to other cars

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            And does that imply that the average owner bought the car at 10yo? No. The average car on the road could be 10y if everyone bought them at 0 and trashed them at 20 for instance.

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              The point I’m making is that driving a 10-year-old car isn’t “poverty shit”, it’s “average person shit”.

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                He didn’t say driving a 10yo car tho. He said buying a 10yo car! I would never buy a 10yo car. I would buy a 1-5yo. Buying used is great and honestly the most reasonable option. But buying something already 10yo is definitely “I can barely afford a car”

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      I am old enough that I’ve bought and sold a bunch of cars. And not once has my choice involved “how will people assume who I am in this purchase.” Some have been a bad choice and others worked out. I don’t think people should buy new Teslas but I wouldn’t have the cash that I could fire sale a perfectly working vehicle just because people assume the car is the person.

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      Same, 2020 m3 also, love the car to death, still hate nazis.

      But they started texting me asking me to look at new models, and I am so fucking close to replying ‘sorry, Im trying to sell the swastikar I already own’.

      But he’s just a CS rep, shitting on him does little.

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        I don’t hate ANYONE at Tesla other than Elon. If they could give him the boot I’d probably buy from them forever. Except I do like the look of the rivians.

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        Someone was telling me the other day that the cheapest new car available in the UK was an electric Dacia. Obviously, you can get a used car for less than a new one, but electric cars are within reach of normal people, or at least normal enough people to not have Mr Moneybags budgets.

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          In the US basically every new EV is more expensive than a similar gas car. It’s a shitty EV market. Teslas specifically were much more expensive than a regular car in 2020. Then there’s the problem of having to charge it. Which you either have to live in moneybags areas to have the public infrastructure, or you have to have a house (moneybags territory) with probably a charging station (also moneybags). So yeah, I fully stand behind my original statement.

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    There’s a great opportunity for someone to sell replacement badges and logos for “converting” a Tesla into, say, a Mazda.

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    Just put one of those “I bought it before I knew Elon was crazy” bumper stickers on it and continue to drive it.

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      So instead of just risking anti-Musk people burning the car, you will now also have the pro-Musk people who might burn your car.

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    People don’t have to be stuck with a Tesla. I sold my 2018 Model 3 to Carvana last week for 18k. Yesterday I turned right around and bought a 2019 Audi Q5 for 18k. I never wanted to go back to gas, but I only plan on owning this until I can get the Rivian R2 I reserved. Then I’ll sell the Audi for the down payment on the Rivian. Should be a year or two max.

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        I think I’m gonna shoot for the R2S, or go for the Hyundai/Kia. The R3X is too small, and I’ve never owned anything larger than a midsize sedan.

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      Admirable. I keep telling owners its not that hard to drive something else. I appreciate you acting on your values.

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      People don’t have to be stuck with a Tesla

      But then the person you sold it to will be the person stuck with a Tesla, no?

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      After the bad experience with startup, tech company car brands that caused you to short sell your Tesla, your long-term plan is to get a different startup, tech company car?

      🤦‍♂️

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        Why not? I made a lot of money from Tesla. If Rivian follows the same path, I will again. I am a tech early adopter, I’m willing to do these things. My Tesla was amazing for 7 years. I got an ok price for it. The price was good enough to buy an Audi which is one year younger.

        Also, I doubt RJ Scaringe is going to stage a coup to own the US. Elon has set a fascist bar that nobody can clear.

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            True, but that usually doesn’t matter. They’re using the same playbook, but their product is much better. There is plenty of room in the EV market for more profitable innovation.

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              After seeing the “innovations” Tesla has (e.g. doors that don’t open in emergencies, weirdo dashboards, subscription “features” for your car, etc.) I think I’m all good on “innovation” in my car purchases. But you do you.

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    I completely get it, along with all the folks saying they don’t, won’t, can’t sell their Tesla. I’m also going to flip off every single Tesla I see on the road unless something seriously changes. I’ve spent most of my life with my head in the sand, first time ever donating to politics was sending Harris a weeks pay after she announced following Biden’s disaster debate. I was obviously part of the problem. Since the election I’ve cut out my family, have one friend left, and my wife and kids. I also flip off everyone in my development that had up Trump signs anytime I see them. I’m not going to actively destroy someone else’s property but I’d defend anyone that does. I’m privileged, my breaking point is different, the least I can do is show I’m not another bigot in this backwater country by ensuring my disdain for their hatred is understood. Fuck all of them and the symbolism’s of hate they have built. Even if I somehow found myself in a Tesla I’d at a minimum still be flipping off every one of them I saw on the road and hope every person I passed returned the favor so I’d know where they stood. Fuck them and fuck anyone carrying around their symbol of hatred hiding behind their veil of privilege.

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      Maybe try joining an activist or mutual aid group? Or even just serving food in a soup kitchen?

      Flipping people off might feel good, but it isn’t helping the country, and it doesn’t sound like it’s helping you, either.

      Get involved in your community. Go out and meet some people.

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        It doesn’t take anymore energy than lifting a wave, which was my prior default. I have started to get involved, I’m just not going to turn a blind eye to anyone anymore.

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        Don’t feel sorry for that guy. He’s a hero. The only way for evil to take hold in any situation is for good men to do nothing (quote by Edmund Burke).

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          LOL

          The implication of that quote is that the “good men” are doing something good, not doing anything at all. I don’t see how running around with your middle finger in the air improves anything, and it could be argued it does the opposite.

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            What is he supposed to do? At least he is letting the world know what he thinks. That’s something. Someone once told me that if you aren’t pissed off then you are not paying close attention. I don’t know about that. I prefer to be in good humour but sometimes I shake my head in anger and helplessness, so I can empathize.

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              What is he supposed to do?

              Are you joking? Yes. You’re trolling me. Ha-ha, you got me, you crazy troll, you!

              Now, if you were serious, I would say: Join an activist group. Call his representatives. Create or enlist in a mutual aid organization. Help out at a soup kitchen. Run for office. Those are just a few off of the top of my head. I could think of dozens more if I wanted to take the time.

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                I’m not joking and I am not a troll. I’m a billy goat, and I’m gruff. You shouldn’t call people names or attach attributes to them, worry about your own stance. There are lots of good citizen actions one can take but there is nothing wrong with getting angry when it is warranted. Sometimes a good “Fuck you” goes way further than cold calling organizations for donations, etc. There are enough people dong that already and we are still travelling a downward path. Maybe God will save us. Maybe the government will save us. Maybe you?

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                  There are enough people dong that already and we are still travelling a downward path.

                  Huh? There are not enough people doing that already, and that is why we are traveling on a downward path.

                  That’s like saying “I have plenty of money, but I’m still broke”.

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        Its two things: I don’t want to show any support Tesla, and don’t have the luxury of selling my car and buying a different one. Second, I think you might be surprised how many people really don’t know what cars look like. Sure, “car people” will know, but most people aren’t “car people”.