Trump is now caught in the oldest trap of modern warfare – believing a swift, surgical military operation will yield quick, enduring political results. The Soviets did it in Afghanistan; the US in Iraq in 2003; Putin did it in Ukraine, and is still fighting. Whatever force a military fails or succeeds in applying at the start, the people it is attacking have greater commitment to defending their lands and homes.
The White House may have rushed into this, seizing the opportunity for a decapitation strike, provided by Israeli intelligence. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has very different objectives regionally, and a long US involvement against Tehran suits his desire for an Iran in rolling collapse that is no longer a threat. But the death of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei on February 28 has caused as many problems as it has solved.
How did the Iraq war yield quick results? Wasn’t the U.S. military there for like 9 years?
Nevermind the article, are you seriously so lazy that you won’t even read the summary? You don’t even have to click on anything. It’s right in front of you! Just read it!
The military collapsed in a matter of days. Yet the conflict didn’t end for years, which is the whole premise of the article and every conflict mentioned.
Ah, so you’re talking about the benefits we reap after the dust settles following the initial military actions.
That makes more sense, admittedly I did skim.
This will end the same as every other middle east conflict. We destroy the government and make 12 new terrorist organizations. But they keep trying to cut the heads off a hydra.
Because the entire army went home, the US wouldn’t allow them to work in security, fired many of those that were working in security, and then did a big ole surprise Pikachu when the army just kind of became an insurgency.
i am no expert on the subject, but it seems that this time Americans citizens will experience war beyond the occasional terrorist attack in their soil
No, that’s not clear at all. Unless you want to promote this from creepy conjecture to pointing out anything of substance…
Not sure what you mean
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Thanks for letting everyone know you’re bigoted, evil, and bloodthirsty
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Ah yes all the “bad” bigots are only bad because they don’t have an excuse to be bigots.
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But you have an excuse. See it’s okay for you to wish death on innocent people because of where they were born. You’re good dude. Everyone understands.
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In what way? They will experience it in the form of rising fuel prices, sure.
yes, and will trickle down to price increase in other things exponentially
I love how now the Israel is blamed for the US failures.
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Given how rarely any corpo media holds their feet to the fire, that’s almost more interesting than whether it’s true.
Both are at fault.
It’s a joint failure. Israel is also to blame, as is often the case with US interventionism.
They can have him, and his entire cabinet and advisors.
I’d even consider all of Congress and the Supreme Court for dessert. Then we can just start over.
I dunno about all of Congress. Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar, Corey Bush, and Rashida Talib have stood against the regime since day 1. They shouldn’t have to be handed over.
Also the heritage foundation, and people like Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon.
It’s almost like there was some sort of reason why no one else was stupid enough to do this.
I hope it hangs around the neck of every feckless congressperson that votes not to keep their constitutional powers
Israel said that it worked for them, and all they want is sufficient disruption to continue their own invasions. Trump is the fool for so so many reasons.
Israel needs lebensraum.
Yada yada live long enough to become the villain.
This is a great point. It’s like the super powers of the worlds leaders, just thinks its a 1+1 = 2 scenario with war. Because they are so far up their own arses, they can’t see any further than their own stool…
Trump may be unable to end the war he started with Iran, even if he wanted to
Yeah, we know. It’s one of the (many) reasons we didn’t want this.
Remember the last world leader who said it’ll be over in a few days…
I’m willing to bet this is Trumps and by extension America’s 3 day special operation. And I mean that down to the expectation this would all be over in 3-4 days after the extensive bombing and killing of the upper leadership in the first few days.
Instead Iran was all “nah we’re good, we’ve been preparing for this day for 15-20 years”. And started fucking up the whole region.
This war can go on for years… so you are possible right.
Trump, as an individual may not have a way out. Remember, Epstein was Mossad-trained and probably shared a lot of useful dirt with Israel.
But there is always a path to peace; and in this case it starts with the US backing off. Iran doesn’t have much capacity for war beyond protecting itself.
Exactly the same as how there’s a way for Russia to have peace in Ukraine.
The implication I haven’t seen explicitly mentioned in the article (which it should be! Bad article) is “there is no way for Trump to stop the war without losing face and thus his power”.
The reason they keep going is because otherwise they have to admit they were wrong. And probably not only wrong, but knowingly wrong, which equals malicious. And admitting that you’re malicious is bad, even with your most loyal supporters. The only way to not have that happen is to just keep going and act as if everything is fine, which is what’s happening.
The actual “path to peace” is very very simple, you just have to retreat your troops. It’s supremely unlikely Iran will attack halfway around the globe with their infrastructure.
They’ve backed on tons of things before without admitting any wrongdoing, I don’t see how this is different
The implication I haven’t seen explicitly mentioned in the article (which it should be! Bad article) is “there is no way for Trump to stop the war without losing face and thus his power
basically what I was trying to get at. But I’m not sure that it’s a matter of losing face, and rather that Netanyahu is holding some damning evidence (of the epstein files variety) over him.
as mentioned on other posts, the easiest way to deal with blackmail material is to just release it all.
I don’t know if just stopping the attack is going to work this time. Iran was significantly attacked and will want some form of retribution in order to remind the USA to never do this again.
The USA and Israel will need to pay costs for peace.
The last time someone succeeded at that, it made the USA even worse.
You opened this can of worms, now lie in it.
You opened this can of worms, now lie in it.
He’s already choking in them too.
And imo, ofcourse he can end this whenever he wants to. Strategically and morally this operation makes zero sense. Not that anything he’s said or un-said, or started and or ( never) ended ever did. And no, I don’t think Iraqis will come better out of this. It’s another humanitarian disaster in the making. He’s a destructive asshole.
And no, I don’t think Iraqis will come better out of this.
And probably Iranians won’t, either. ;-)
Oeps… will correct. Might have something to with my déjà vu. smh
The intent was clear, I just like poking fun at typos. <3
He won’t, he’ll be long dead and we all have to live with the consequences
This dude started presidency with zero major crises, and has created at least three.
that’s like guessing how many jelly beans are in a jar.
there’s at least three!
And all he had to do was make life less soul-crushing economically, and people would have gladly lined up behind him to support anything he wants to do, no matter how awful.
But they’re not. They’re poor and starving, so he’s losing everyone, including his own coalition.
Idk what you’re talking g about, he started with multiple crises and has only made them worse: climate change, health insurance, student loans, genocide in Gaza, etc.
Biden was nearly as incompetent and evil as Trump, he just hid it better and occasionally threw us a bone.
The person who down voted you went out to brunch the whole Biden administration.
“We’ll push him left after the election!”
I don’t see down votes 🤷♀️
Don’t forget the Ukraine war and the ongoing social, health and economic consequences of the pandemic.
Trump is a dumb, racist, idiotic pile of pedophile shit, but US wasn’t doing great before him either.
