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20 points to Greece!
This feels like a Harry Potter reference.
Douze points
Good. Fuck them. Evil bastards.
They are feasting while they starve millions to death a few miles away.
Good job Greece.
It’s not Greece. It’s the protesters. The Greek government is notoriously close to the Zionists. About as stupid too.
Sorry. Good job protestors.
Greece is not identical with its government. Pedantry that collapses an important distinction is extra unhelpful.
Funny you… you can separate Greece and its population, but the same rule doesn’t apply to Israel… really funny…
Polls have repeatedly shown that the Israeli population is majority supportive of their government’s actions in Palestine.
Do you understand what an international sanction is?
If Greece was doing what Israel is doing and my fellow Greek electors were responsible for electing for 20 years in free and fair elections the government that does it AND they were polling the government coalition responsible for doing it first for the next election AND in opinion polls overwhelmingly supported the genocide and I was one of the few brave souls doing the protesting, not only would I be ok with the conflation, I would be encouraging.
Holding autocracies to account is easy: send the dictator to the Hague.
Holding democracies (even flawed ones like Israel’s) to account is harder.
Do this for all things coming out of Iseral.
And US and Germany and UK and France and Canada and every country financially supporting and politically shielding this genocide.
Canada is not supporting it all. Please dont include us in your list .
Canada is still selling weapons to Israel via loopholes (i.e. selling them to the US who then passes them on to Israel.)
https://www.readthemaple.com/canada-sold-18-9-million-of-military-goods-to-israel-despite-pause/
I remember from history class that a boat of Jewish refugees was turned away from several ports during WW2. Wild to have lived long enough to see that reason completely flip and have a decadent cruise turned away for supporting genocide.
In any case, Jews =/= Israeli
Well, yeah. But the Israeli population is 75% Jewish and their leadership even more so. I’m holding my neighbor responsible for genocide, I’m holding Israel responsible for genocide. A critique of Israel is not an attack on Jews.
Israel exists because there wasn’t anywhere in the world that would grant Jews asylum in WW2. Rejecting boatloads of Jews is continuing the strong case for the need for a Jewish state.
And you can’t call Jews living in Israel “colonists” as if they can “go back to Europe” now. They can’t leave Israel now,
On one hand there’s a large number of people that want to “wipe Israel off the map” and on the other hand we have European countries not allowing Jews to enter. So what is the meaning behind “wipe Israel off the map” now?
I used to think a Jewish state wasn’t necessary, though I didn’t have a problem with there being one. I figured we’d never go back to a to the dark times of the past. But now I’m absolutely convinced that a Jewish state is 100% necessary. So… congratulations, protesters?
I’m 70 years old and have always supported Israel until now, but I am starting to believe that the world would be better off without Israel. They function with a complete absence of honor and humanity, and completely lack the ability to compromise fairly. Israel is an irritant to a peaceful world.
So you want to kill all the Jews in Israel?
You’re showing the mental capacity of a four year old.
Yes, and insulting people instead of responding to what they said is the height of maturity.
The Israelis are colonists who are committing a genocide in order to expand their colony.
They are called colonists because they are litterly colonizing land in occupied territories. The government consists of parties that openly call for this.
They are called colonists because in your information bubble that’s the worst thing anyone could ever be. If you were terming the settlers in the West Bank to be colonizers, sure I could understand that.
But I think you mean all Israelis are colonizers (even those who are just living where they were born) as a way to dehumanize Israelis and to rationalize the ethnic cleansing of Jews.
You’re just rationalizing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Colonisation is at the core in the Israeli government. Call a spade a spade
Zionists had been colonizing Palestine for decades before the Holocaust. Your statement is patently false.
Do you consider all immigration to be “colonization” or is it just when specific ethnicities do it?
What is this
A news article from more than a century ago?
Do we really need to crack open some dusty history books and go over the decline of the Ottoman Empire?
People actively committing genocide, should not be free to have a pleasant cruise holiday! Fuck That!
Bravo Greece!
Good riddance.
Thank you Greece!
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Can’t even commit a genocide and go on a cruise undisturbed after, what has this world come to
Are those soldiers or politicians on the cruise?
There is forced conscription in Israel, so yes most of them are usually current or ex IDF soldiers. Aka war criminals…
Yes
You are joking, but the answer is yes.
Most of the passengers served in the IOF, most of them likely war criminals
Apartheid countries that practice conscription have very few adult civilians.
Taking action against Israel is not antisemitic. As an anti-zionist Jew, I really don’t appreciate people conflating the two.
Is this taking action against Israel or against israelis. Would you be fine if your country’s government did something and then people who you dont know were aggressive towards you?
How does this action help Palestine in any way?
Greece is the most antisemitic, non muslim majority, country in the world. I am greek btw.
That’s been my whole life as an American. It’s part of the reason I try to convince my fellow Americans to stop voting for the terrible things we do.
Χέσε μας ρε που η Ελλάδα είναι η πιο αντισημιτική χώρα του κόσμου.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_by_country#Antisemitism_rates_by_nation
Το ADL είναι χαζός οργανισμός, τα νούμερα μπορεί να είναι λάθος, αλλά η σχέση ανάμεσα στα νούμερα νομίζω ότι είναι σχετικά σωστή. Υπόψιν, τα νούμερα είναι από το 2014-2015. Η Ελλάδα πάντα είχε θέμα με τον αντισημιτισμό και από τη άκρα δεξιά και από την άκρα αριστερά.
The ADL counts opposition to Israel as antisemitism. Any metric based on the IHRA definition is just garbage and propaganda.
Edit: the ADL is worse than “silly”. They are enablers of antisemitism so long as the antisemites are pro-Israeli. Zero credibility.
Edit2: you’re quoting a list that lists 93% of Palestinians as antisemites. What a fucking sick joke.
The percentages are irrelevant, the relation between them is relevant. And Greece is the top, non muslim majority, country. Far above all other European countries.
Even if ADL is a joke, this should be an indication that things were never good in Greece, in regards to antisemitism. Especially since the data is from 2014-2015, probably near peak doomerism/evil jewish bankers/etc for greeks.
Does Greece has an anti-Semitism problem? Yes, unequivocally. We also have a much bigger Islamophobia problem. Beyond that, the “rankings” are meaningless.
In terms of policy, our government is one that straight up kills migrants at sea and allies itself with a genocidal apartheid regime.
The people taking action here did a good thing. It’s people like this that save Greek honour.
Don’t confuse hatred towards Israelis, Israeli policy, and Israeli supremacists with hatred towards jews in general. There is a difference.
Anti-Semitic comments should be reported, they will be removed.
Comments against Israeli policy and war crimes are allowed to stand.
You’re not an organic Jew, who is paying you to push this fucking bullshit that you like to spread around here, victimize yourself elsewhere you Fucking weirdo
I am no jew, i am a German christian and i recognize the patterns the so called “Palestine supporters” are using to spread their hate for Israel’s actions towards jews. You all who celebrate that this ship was turned away would have been proud Nazis back in the day. Think about yourself and think about where you would have stand in the 40s.
I AM JEWISH, lived in Israel, and will say that clearly
fuck you
Free Palestine
You are implying that genocide is a Jewish thing because protesting it is a protest against Judaism. In such case you are a massive antisemitic troll.
ISREAL WILL AND NEVER BE A REPRESTATION OF JEWS.
See, according to Germany’s political establishment and mainstream, you, an actual Jew, are antisemitic. The German establishment knows better than you. And there is absolutely nothing creepy or antisemitic in them telling you you’re a bad Jew.
Edit: not to mention that this person right here is probably feeling immense satisfaction at having been downvoted to oblivion. Because they are likely perceiving this whole thing as them taking a brave stand against antisemitism. This is them being pure rational Germans against antisemitic irrationality. That’s where we’re at.
You’re a german christian who sympathizes with ICE. You’re clearly more than a fan of your grandparents’ belief while the Fuhrer was around.
Seriously yall. Go back track through their profile. This is a person justifying the steps to genocide by being a “concerned german citizen”.
Where would you stand in the 40s? You seem to be very okay with a genocide of Palestinians right now so just wondering
Just because something was done to you does not make it fair or give you the right to do it to someone else.
Zionist. The words for you are Zionist and Nazi. Go read the bible fake Christian. Hell or purgatory await, the choice is yours. Not really, you literally are not capable of reading the entire bible so it’s not much of a choice.
Look, man I called what Israel was doing to Palestine a genocide when they first invaded, I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make here, genocide is being done by the Jewish people no matter how you sell it
Genocide is being done by Israel, not the Jewish people.
We should also remember that Hamas was the aggressor, not the Palestinian people. Hamas does not represent all Palestinian people just like Israel does not represent all Jewish people.
History didn’t start on October 7th. “Hamas was the aggressor” is a false statement. Hamas is one of the belligerents in a war of occupation that’s been going on for a long long time.
Germany is participating in genocide again. For the 2nd time in 100 years.
In 50 years there will be another monument in Berlin, apologizing for the victims of the Palestinian genocide.
I cannot believe that
hatreddisgust towardJewsanyone who supports the genocidal regime of Israel is celebrated here… It’s disgustingFify
Basic thinking skill:
A) Was the cruise ship turned around because the men were circumcised
B) It’s from a genocidal state?
How do you know the religion of cruise boat vacationers? Do they discriminate by religion?
It says Israeli, no religion was mentioned.
Exactly. Conflating hatred of a cruise boat to “hatred towards Jews” is disgusting, and Im calling our that bullshit.
Ah alright. Got you
The cruise ship was circumcised, duhh.
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They are waving Israeli flags.
Israeli is not a religion.
Israeli constitution disagrees with you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People
That’s not really what that says. You think this is a legitimate defense against genocide? Please answer yes or no.
The Israeli constitutions discriminates against non-Jews, and says that Israel is for Jews only.
Every accusation is an admission of guilt with these kinda people.
I hate Daniella Weiss but I love Larry David, does that make me an antisemite? You’re the disgusting one, learn to differentiate. You ate nazi propaganda with a spoon in the 30s and you’re eating the same from the zionists now. Time to get your shit together. What does Jesus say about starving children, Christian? Why are you condoning genocide, Christian?
What is disgusting I that you are conflating legitimate non violent pressure to the citizens of a genocidal state to do their duty as citizens with hatred towards Jews.
They are committing mass murder, so I understand the anger.
