This timeline is unrealistic and poorly thought out.
This season the writers went WOKE.
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Surprisingly, Starmer has so far shown signs of having a spine. He must be facing a backbench revolt.
You people decided you didn’t need the UK back in 1776. No take backsies.
I mean, he decided he didn’t want us just a week ago…
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9dn3j04lydo
Trump accuses Starmer of seeking to ‘join wars after we’ve already won’
It’s already won. What’s the problem?
Why would they join the war that is already won?
Victory has many fathers. Defeat is a gosh gallop of roping in allies, obscuring facts and blaming Joe Biden.
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To win the war he already won. How is that confusing?
USA and Zionists just bring chaos and instability to the region .
Gulf countries and Iran could find a middle ground and agree to peace , but zionists wants greater Israel ,USa wants resources
“We don’t need your ships”
24 hours later…
“Please send your ships”
“BTW, we already won the war, but please help”
According to the article, this is what he said:
Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.
How does that turn into this?
Donald Trump pleads for UK to send warships to secure Strait of Hormuz
Ummm, sounds pretty much the same to me.
You mean because the headline did not include the other nations?
The headline conveys a different message. He made a statement in a public occasion.
He stated that these countries may have interest in joining the war, and that he’d be happy if they did.
He did not plead the UK: pleading the UK would be calling their prime minister and asking them what they want to join the war. As far as I understood there has been no contact with UK officials to talk about this.
I believe the public statement was the pleading part and the rest is just semantics since he has said in the past that he didn’t need them and that the war was virtually over. In fact I’m the same breath he mentioned that they were decapitated. Why would you need help with a decapitated event? I mean would you actually expect him to say the words “I’m pleading with…?”
I think there have been many exaggerations regarding TACO, he practically invites them after all, but this one is pretty mild.
It was just another post on “Truth social”. Full version of this particular ramble here:
Many Countries, especially those who are affected by Iran’s attempted closure of the Hormuz Strait, will be sending War Ships, in conjunction with the United States of America, to keep the Strait open and safe. We have already destroyed 100% of Iran’s Military capability, but it’s easy for them to send a drone or two, drop a mine, or deliver a close range missile somewhere along, or in, this Waterway, no matter how badly defeated they are. Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint, will send Ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a Nation that has been totally decapitated. In the meantime, the United States will be bombing the hell out of the shoreline, and continually shooting Iranian Boats and Ships out of the water. One way or the other, we will soon get the Hormuz Strait OPEN, SAFE, and FREE! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Clearly that is doing more than just saying they “may have interest”. It is expressing a desire for them to on his part. I guess it’s not pleading but it is definitely him publicly urging them to do it. It’s also interesting that in the same message he claims that many countries will be sending warships before expressing this hope that some he lists would.
I’m starting to think he was never very good at the businesses and the strategies all along!
I submit the following: an oil shock and the resultant recession/depression is worth enduring so that the world may be rid of Trump. Let the idiot wear his blunder, and may the economic disaster he unleashed be forever known as the Trump Slump. The alternative might be WW3.
One thing, though: we must help Ukraine defeat Putin. Russia is getting a huge boost right now from Trumps’s blunder. If the UK and others send ships anywhere, it should be to blockade Russia.
The end of the AI and Realestate bubbles and, even better, the Reserve status of the USD, would be wonderful things.
Sure, it would be painful, but it’s like pulling a rotten tooth, a short sharp pain now to save us from continued paid that will turn into something much worse in the future.
I’m gonna miss my mighty dollar but you’re right it’s outlived its useful life.
Pathetic
But he just said he doesn’t need them! What happened? Was he wrong?
“It’s both”
Many such cases.
USA started it, USA should finish it! We don’t give a fuck about USA starting a war and then beg the rest of the world to do something! Maybe you should send your citizens!
I don’t have a lot of faith that a worm like Kier Starmer won’t fold after Trump yells at him a bit.
after trump just threatened all of EU for not supporting him too.
Starmer ain’t Blair.
There’s no way Starmer pulls us into this war, given the current political climate in the UK.
The two far-right party leaders called to join the war in Iran as soon as it started - they’ve both had to backpedal now due to the UK public categorically not supporting the war.
It’s given Starmer some much-needed good press. His actions on the world stage have been consistently brilliant and I don’t see that stopping yet. He should be able to keep our noses clean during this, but I suspect we’ll be hit with the recession regardless.
You forget that Starmer loves shooting himself in tbe foot and hates good press
His domestic politics have been a disaster, but his international stuff has been pretty damn good. Mostly…
I take that back, the government’s position on Israel/Gaza is a disgusting… Apart from that though!
And he could try the whole “no elections during wartime” strategy if he really wants to end up even more hates than he already is
There’s speculation that that is something Trump and the Republicans are after, with some evidence to support that theory.
There’s zero evidence to support New Labour will attempt the same. This is just tin foil pulled out your arse conspiracy, which aids nobody but the fascists. Don’t let the bastards win, don’t spread unfounded conspiracies.
Only two elections have ever been cancelled in our history, both during world wars. Both times the ruling party didn’t keep control but instead a coalition government of varying parties was formed. The strategy of cancelling elections to keep power in the UK therefore doesn’t work, has no evidence to support it, and the ruling party don’t have the public support to even attempt let alone pull off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_George_ministry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_war_ministry
Don’t know that much about him, but it would be epically spineless of him if he did.
“We have already destroyed 100 per cent of Iran’s military capability, but it’s easy for them to send a drone or two, drop a mine, or deliver a close-range missile somewhere along, or in, this waterway, no matter how badly defeated they are.”
In what appeared to be an appeal to the UK and other nations, he added: “Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.”
Mr Trump struck a markedly different tone from when, earlier this month, he accused Sir Keir of joining the conflict after the US had already claimed victory, suggesting the US no longer needed UK assistance.
“The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East,” Mr Trump wrote earlier in March. “That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them any longer – But we will remember. We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!”
“The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the greatest of them all”
Daddy Bibi gonna be mad about this one.
You think Bibi doesn’t know, nd love the fact, that Trump is an idiot?
The only official response to him from the UK should be the direct quote about not needing the UK. No additional words. Don’t take any words out. Just the exact quote.
Starmer will say no, only in defence, then give Trump everything he wants.
Those wealthy elites know a thing or two about class solidarity. It means a few hundred extra poors to the chopping block, they’ll take it!
Then the UK has a problem to deal with as well.
Ready in Canada if our government decides to help Trump out. Don’t care which team he’s on.
We should really call a vote of non confidence if they do. Regime change should always start at home.
It’s still a minority government.
