Oh great another centralized repository of data about people (uploaded without their knowledge or consent in the case of the men) that definitely won’t be abused by bad actors
Huh…
Part of these types of things generally seem like a well-intentioned idea, but it’s also so creepy, scammy, and gross. This data won’t stop here by any means, and will be sold or used in a million different even shittier ways. Pretty fucked.
It’s fine, no reason to sell the data, the service was literally just breached!
Don’t these companies know how to properly configure a database? This seemed like it was completely preventable.
Lots of breaches are entirely preventable, but lots of companies don’t like to pay for qualified employees that could prevent them.
Starting salary for a cyber security expert is around 70,000€ and that’s for someone who’s relatively inexperienced so you would probably want to pay more like 90,000€, for these startups that’s seven or eight employees worth of salary and they don’t want to pay it.
The problem is it leads to things like this happening which kills their entire company.
Or they could do what they’re doing now which is work with a consultancy company which doesn’t cost anywhere near as much money but still costs quite a bit.
Don’t worry I’m sure the owner has already pocketed $10m in investor money and is currently parachuting away to plan their next fuckup
Don’t these companies know
No. The answer is always no
You think a company paddling gossip under the guise of “woman safety” would care about protecting personal information? 🤣
Hahaha, that’s hilarious. I’ve just seen it on /g/ today.
😂
yeah, well-intentioned things tend to go sour when exposed to the glow of anonymity on the internet. Starts off innocent, and goes downhill fast.
The creator, Sean, stating that he started this app as a reaction to the online dating scene his mother experienced, seems fine: an anti-catfishing app would be great.
To give the devil their due, the data they collect might also be valuable as data on how women discuss men online, which at a cursory glance seems to favor far more hyperbole than I see in everyday life.
Yea I agree with you
Someone saw that Black Mirror episode and said “Let’s make that for real.”
I think you mean that Community episode.
Creating a digital social hierarchy was on my 2030 bingo card… dang.
And they got the idea from the two prior databases.
At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel “Don’t Create the Torment Nexus”
Oh yeaaa hahahaha you are right 😂😂😂 sounds just like that episode
Tea just suffered a massive data leak
Gotta be a special type fuckbrain to give this app a photo and a copy of your gotdamn ID.
Yeah that’s what the article is about
Imagine if the genders were swapped in this situation
Or if this was targeted at virtually any other category of people
Yeah, my thoughts were having people encouraged to add on information they know on top of public information is a gold mine for governments. Someone could opt out of social media and not even have a phone or computer, but now you could have citizens themselves creating profiles on their behalf and providing information on individuals like political leanings. People are just thinking dating because that is what the site is about.
But, my thoughts went to how a site could do the same for whether someone is legal or not, whether they are pro government or not, etc.
Oh god rate my maid.
“He’s a cheater,” Walker said, reading some of the comments on one post out loud.
“What clubs does he go to?” another person asked on a different post. “He’s cute.”
That illustrates the big problem…
Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.
It’s not going to take long for them to get massively sued, there’s no way they’re vetting the posted info, and it’s literally cyber bullying.
The guy (yes it’s a guy) who made and owns this is a fucking idiot for not seeing the lawsuits coming.
Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.
and some guys anonymously posing as women online to undermine the competition.
Lol, reminds me of a different thread about trump pretending to be a woman and writing into newspapers:
“Based on the fact that I work for Donald Trump as his secretary—and therefore know him well—I think he treats women with great respect, contrary to what Julie Baumgold implied in her article … I do not believe any man in America gets more calls from women wanting to see him, meet him, or go out with him. The most beautiful women, the most successful women—all women love Donald Trump.”
Carolin Gallego December 7, 1992. (Not a realperson)
https://mashable.com/article/donald-trump-carolin-gallego-new-york-magazine-letter
JFC, as if this guy wasn’t already the poster child for cringe.
Also he wrote then like AI writes now.
Posted yesterday about how he was the late night show’s favorite target back in the day. FFS, does no one remember Trump: The Board Game! Or when he insisted everyone refer to him as “The Donald”?
Here’s Obama tearing him a new asshole:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHckZCxdRkA
And that’s how we got President Trump!
Outside of the crap going on in the US fascist resurgence, women are generally defined as a minority that requires equity / special benefits and protections. Making an app to “protect women” by crowdsourcing information about potentially predatory / negative men is viewed as ‘good’, and would likely be ‘ok’ by many western country standards.
Making an app about women, with similar ‘experiences’ reported by guys, would be considered predatory, and would get shut down.
We can already see plenty of related things out and about – like “women only” companies getting applauded by govt / media, while the same sources shame any business that doesn’t attempt to get 50%+ women on staff. We shut down gentlemen’s clubs for being discriminatory, but we cheer women’s only spaces. Genders are not treated equally in the public’s eye, and it generally skews in favour of benefiting women at this point, especially once it hits media/govt/courts.
I think this is the more realistic take on how it’d play out.
So I’ve had multiple GF’s who were physically abusive, cheaters, chronic liars, gaslighters… so is there a version of this for me? Or are men never victims still?
So glad this didn’t exist like ~15 years ago. My one ex, who decided to start a relationship with her co-worker, while we were looking for and then financing a house… When I broke up with her (like 1 week after closing), while I was trying to process the betrayal, she took to Facebook and text messages spamming EVERYONE a fake story about me, trying to pass herself as the victim. Even including a fake pregnancy! All to make me look bad because I caught her cheating. Thankfully, this app didn’t exist, and several of my female friends reached out to me for my side of the story.
But all the “stories” on that app, 100% vetted, right? We get unbiased, both sides of the story, right… Evidence was required… right? Because imaging the harm someone could do if they were just petty, or scornful, of just bored. It’s not like women have ever made false rape claims… right…
I’m not trying to imply my situation is what all men go through… but you can’t just dismiss it, or other men, because it doesn’t fit into your social media-fueled narrative. Yes, some men suck (and that’s selling it short). But, women are just as capable of the same level of suck. We are all, after all, human.
People who pretend to be victims upset me almost as much as people who victimize others (they are not equal, but it is still so fucked up). Victims have a rough enough time already being taken seriously. It doesn’t take more than a few false positives to completely take the air out of legitimate accusations from victims. I wish there was some way to solve this problem.
I don’t know why they upset you “almost as much” - people who pretend to be victims are in fact people that are victimizing others. “Other sides” notwithstanding, you said it yourself in so many words: they’re also further victimizing actual victims.
I frankly find it more inexcusable.
For me, it’s hard to say one or the other is worse. It might depend on circumstances. Is someone making a false claim of rape worse than someone raping someone, or worse than a child rapist, serial rapist, etc? In damage collectively done to all victims, quite possibly. However, the intention of the false witness isn’t usually to delegitimize the claims of other victims. It’s usually shortsited and desperate - a desire to avoid social consequences or to punish the accused. I suspect such false claims are also more common among a younger, naive, immature population. It’s fucked up and selfish, surely. As fucked up as feeling you have the right to use another person’s body for your own physical pleasure or to assert dominance or whatever shit goes through a rapists mind? I don’t know.
Frankly, I’ve never been the victim or perpetrator of either crime, nor have I even been in a situation where either crossed my mind. All I’m qualified to say is that I wish neither crimes would happen to anyone.
Generally yes but it’s not nearly always so clear cut that one is 100% the offender and the other one 0%. Which is why attention to details, context, sophistication, listening to both sides before coming to a conclusion, etc. Is so important. But guess what kind of things get lost when taking part in such a one-sided blame game on the semi-anonymous internet.
Apps like this but also social media more generally allow for one-sided public naming and shaming of Individuals who probably don’t even know about it. It’s problematic because it can be deeply unfair.
I get that there is also value in women protecting themselves against predators but more than likely most content within the app/service is probably one-sided public blaming and gossiping.
And as we all know from right-wing propaganda, being the first to make a bold claim public and generate headlines with it is very powerful and spreads the message far and wide, whether true or false, and many will just believe it’s true without further investigation.
To answer your question, there have been apps like this for men… but they keep getting taken down after users start posting revenge porn.
I also have been attacked by an ex.
I can see both sides - if it’s an app about suffering abuse, all should be welcome vs there aren’t enough women-only spaces online and those that exist are frequently brigaded.
Both have reasonable arguments. Likely a compromise where a filter could be set where you can choose to opt your posts into the women-only feed.
However, my argument would be this app is bad and no one should be on it. Even if all the content is true, a gossip app that covers legally questionable things is likely not a sensible place to hang around.
Inb4 “found the bear”
This is psychotic.
Back in the Google Glass days, I theorized that it wouldn’t be long before you could look at a person walking down the street and near instantaneously have a full profile of that individual, their age and address and family and everything, with Yelp-style reviews commenting on how the subject is a huge dick, or has a huge dick, or kicks puppies, etc. “Free”, of course, encumbered only by ads for bullshit dating services, and with just the minor inconvenience of full access to every goddamn piece of data on your phone.
I am only surprised that this kinda shit hasn’t happened much much earlier.
I think some student used AI along with the Meta sunglasses with cameras to do exactly this and it’s creepy how much info about you is just out there
Thank God we have the GDPR in Europe.
Many states in the US have similar regulations. For example, California’s regulations are famously similar to GDPR.
I imagine there are whatsapp groups for things like this.
But I’m going to pretend they don’t exist because I already feel self-conscious enough.
If you think about it: The GDPR applies to all data of EU citizens regardless of where they are or where you are. There is no way that this app is not having some EU guy in New York in it and therefore totally in violation of GDPR
And what is the EU going to do about it? Governing bodies can declare extraterritorial laws all they want, but they are meaningless unless they have a way to enforce them.
The treaties and international laws between these countries absolutely allow the EU to enforce GDPR against companies and individuals outside of the EU if it involves an EU citizen as the victim. I know this because I have to work with it every day and I’m from the US.
What a weird place some societies have come to.
Using technology as a surrogate for community.
This kind of thing has been done before.
For example:
From the first one
One profile the New Times uncovered supposedly of a philandering ex-boyfriend was actually a gay man who had spurned a woman’s advances.
How did they not mention the ‘hack’ here?
People should bombard them with DSAR requests.
If you’re in a state that support data subject removal requests, like California, email support@teatheapp.com and say this is a formal DSAR request to remove all of your PII.
They have 45 days to follow through.
