In a letter sent Thursday to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, the lawmakers say that because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.
Several federal agencies, including the FBI, NSA, and FTC, have recommended that consumers use VPNs to protect their privacy. But following that advice may inadvertently cost Americans the very protections they’re seeking.
The letter was signed by members of the Democratic Party’s progressive flank: Senators Ron Wyden, Elizabeth Warren, Edward Markey, and Alex Padilla, along with Representatives Pramila Jayapal and Sara Jacobs.
I hate the way this is getting it twisted.
Just because your signal is misinterpreted does not mean you’ve waived your rights. It means their system and it’s use of citizen’s data is flawed and violates the law.
I thought the law said that inadvertent collection has to be deleted asap not that you forfeited your rights.
Right? The real irony is that those who are paid to enforce the law, and who’re sworn to uphold it, feel they’re above it - beyond reproach.
The system is sick with apathy and outright corruption.
We must save ourselves
Doesn’t CGNat obscure the user true location in the same way? And what kind of VPN are we talking about? Company with exit node in the country? Commercial ones only?
I guess I am on the “watch list” as my company uses multiple different VPN solutions so I can access work files cross offices and remotely when in the field.
Also, what about personal home VPNs where I want to route all my device traffic back to my home when I am out of the house like at a cafe/mall/airport?
Bro these last two years I’ve been put on every list. It’s way too late for any of this.
Ooh ooh, I know how to get on a list!
Ahem
Luigi did nothing wrong
Luigi did nothing wrong…
…also I am Spartacus
Not that shocked, over here.
Lmao, what privacy protections? This is the land of the grift, you’re more protected using a VPN than without one.
Thinks keep going on their current path, I’ll be using i2p fairly soon.
I wonder how the goberment feels about that?
How is that different than Tor?
I2p is mostly a seperate network where everyone acts as a node. Its fast enough to torrent. The clearweb is accessible but it was added on as an after-thought. Personal sites are easy to set up. You can search for things in I2P. Nothing is really indexed in Tor afaik.
Tor is slow and is designed to access the clearweb with the darkweb as an after-thought. According to Mental Outlaw. Again, I have no experience, just going by what I’ve heard.
Ice cold.
Wow thanks I learned something new today.
I heard about i2p yesterday. I have no experience with it but it does sound promising.
“Mighty suspicious of you to protect yourself from our abuse. You must be up to no good.”
reddit pretty much would ban people using vpn , so they know too.
Welp I hope they enjoy the most degen shitposts my dumb brain can come up with
I already assume the gubmint can see everything else I do. The VPN just keeps my ISP from cancelling my service.
I didn’t know this tbh so thanks (and also that’s some BS)
Did they stop spying on americans. Im pretty sure snowden is still living in russia.
America should have took him seriously.
I really think there’s no worth in the average American people anymore.
Yeah it was pretty big. So much of modern times it just boggles my mind for anyone who grew up in the 80’s. We are literally how we portrayed russia or what we would become like if we let communism win. A whistle blower had to flee to russia. 100% bin laden won. Half my life has been in this millenium and there is a stark difference before and after (even with there being plenty which headed us in this direction).
I took him seriously. I was a teenager when Snowden leaked those documents, and I took it seriously.
Why do you think I’m here today?
So in the US, locking your metaphorical doors or windows, or closing your digital curtains, means that authorities can presume you are hiding something and your 4th Amendments rights cease to be valid.
Well, while I agree with that sentiment, you may be looking at it the wrong way.
It’s not that locking your doors gives them permission, it’s that they’re just doing it whether you lock your doors or not.
Imagine you’re the NSA, imagine you’re already spying on every American who isn’t using a VPN (not because you have any legal right to, but because you can). Now ask yourself, where’s your biggest blind spot?
This is why they want legal permission to spy on people using VPNs. If they can do it legally, they can just walk right into a VPN’s server room and install whatever eyes they want on the inside.
All I’m saying, is that there is no constitutional justification for this, they don’t care. Their plan is simple, spy on everyone, fuck the law.
All while abusing Third Party Doctrine to buy your data from advertisers and Palantir anyway.
If a VPN routing of someone in Chicago is via Texas and California, what judge would see that as “foreign”? Oh, right, one of their idiot ones they like to give cases like this.
like in the old days of illegal wiretapping when throughout the conversation one would randomly say “bomb”, “arson”, “nuke” etc. It’s time to use more VPN to generate such a level of white noise where it becomes impractical to track VPN access…
like in the old days of illegal wiretapping when throughout the conversation one would randomly say “bomb”, “arson”, “nuke” etc.
Why do you think they’re buying so much AI shit right now? To filter through the shit for whatever they want to find. People aren’t the bottleneck anymore.
And it’s not like they particularly care about false positives.
After what Snowden has uncovered, Palantir plain in the open, companies like Meta/Facebook and Alphabet/Google shitting on your privacy , I am absolutely sure you will be subject to spying always and regardless of what you’re doing.
