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WHAT WOULD DONALD Trump have to do for the U.S. media to frame what he is doing in Venezuela as an act of war?
This isn’t a rhetorical question. It’s an actual inquiry, the pursuit of which can reveal a lot about how U.S. media’s default posture is state subservience and stenography. In the past few months, President Trump has committed several clear acts of war against Venezuela, including: murdering — in cold blood — scores of its citizens, hijacking its ships, stealing its resources, issuing a naval blockade, and attacking its ports. Then in a stunning escalation on early Saturday morning, the administration invaded Venezuela’s sovereign territory, bombing several buildings, killing at least 40 more of its citizens, kidnapping Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife from their bed, and announcing they will, henceforth, “run” the country.
This episode seems to indicate that the president can do almost anything in the context of foreign policy, and the media will still overwhelmingly adopt language that is flattering and sanitizing to the administration when describing what has unfolded. This dynamic reached a new low Saturday morning, when the U.S. media rushed to frame the administration’s unprovoked attack as, at worst, a “ratcheted up” (CBS News) “pressure campaign” (Wall Street Journal) and, as was more often the case, some type of limited narcotics police “operation” (CNN).
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Anyone that doesn’t is on his payroll and not to be trusted.
Will be interesting to see what Maduro’s trial judge says.
As IF he gets anything close to a fair trial. Everything about this kidnapping was illegal to begin with. All world leaders can now be kidnapped in their beds by US Special Forces. What happened to Noriega will happen to Maduro.
Why haven’t they captured genocider Netanyahu?? Oh right…….
This was an act of war wrapped in the shroud of narcotics enforcement
Who actually believed that justification? Not even the MAGA crowd believe it, they just straight up say its about oil. Back in 2016 they called neocons “rhinos”, now MAGA is neocon, cheering for the very same things they previously hated Bush Jr. for.
I agree, I’m describing what THEY call it
The subscription billionaire media companies are all complicit, and have been for quite a while.
As written by General Buttler in 1935, War is a Racket. The billionaire cabal benefits from war immensely, and the media they own and control will always sing the praises of war.
Billionaire owned media isn’t covering this?
It’s all Western media. And governments. EU deserves Greenland to be invaded - I wonder what’ll be the reports then like.
I bet you loathe Taiwan too.
Why would we loathe any Chinese province? China is pretty cool
If they are fine with US invading random countries, why would they be concerned when they are invaded?
Trump need to be stopped before he hurts someone.
Oops, too late!
I don’t think they are fine with it.
Did they publicly accused US of war and kidnapping, perhaps filled a lawsuit or something about it or at least condemned US? Or did they say it’s fine as long as international law is followed, we are with US blah blah? Rhetoric question, obviously.
Does Venezuela see this as an act of war? Regardless of if they’re going to fight or not. Ask people.
The Venezuelan government might. But according to some DW reporting and footage earlier today, the actual reaction of ordinary Venezuelans is mixed, and mostly concern and confusion rather than anger or fear. Maduro is generally not popular in Venezuela but I doubt many people really wanted the US to come and kidnap him. And understandably those who supported him are in the streets calling for his release.
Of course Maduro government doesn’t like the situation, but people’s opinion is important.
Yes, the method is still not right, but for now from my Eastern-European point of view the situation become better than it was.
Let’s wait for how the power transition will end.
for now from my Eastern-European point of view the situation become better than it was
Situation is so much better now that 100 people have been murdered in the name of oil!
Venezuela was supporting Russia, now that will stop most probably. And Russia kills hundreds every day in Ukraine.
The US + EU kill half a million yearly through economic sanctions alone, much more than the mortality from the Ukraine war. Should we also destroy those countries?
Oh, and of course EU sanctions Russia just for the sake of evil? As soon as Russia retreats from Ukraine, shoves its army to Putin’s ass and compensates the damage, sanctions will be lifted. Russia is the cause of all this shit. And destroying Russia is a good way as long as Russia is unwilling to stop aggression.
The EU sanctions Russia because we’re US puppet states, but the sanctions are more harmful to other countries like Cuba, Venezuela or the DPRK, none of which has invaded any other country. The half a million deaths per year mostly come from such countries and not Russia (though I fail to see how it’s morally good to prevent medical goods from entering Russia or anywhere in the world).
The Venezuelan government could likely consider this to be an act of war based on international law. The question right now is if it wants to.
Technically, Trump performed this attack without declaring war and his war powers without a Congressional declaration. Per American law, the USA isn’t at war with Venezuela. If Venezuela declares that this is an act of war, it gives Trump a better pretense to get war declared on Venezuela. It also vastly changes how neutral powers can treat both countries during the war.
Countries have fought wars without declaring wars before. The military action surrounding the invasion of the Falklands was done without either nation officially declaring war.
according to some DW reporting
Why would anyone trust pro-genocide Zionist media on their reporting about Venezuela and the opinions of Venezuelans? Might as well ask Netanyahu himself.
It’s just locker room abduction.
First, the MSM always props up the MIC. If this is surprising to you now, maybe you should revisit history. Second, the capture of Maduro was also Biden’s policy. Did you forget already?
There was ever so much whining about Obama using drone strikes
Funny… I don’t recall Biden invading Venezuela, or drumming up lies about drugs then stealing their oil.
Proud Zionist Biden upped the bounty leading to Maduro’s arrest, claiming he was an illegitimate leader in favor of the US-backed Zionist puppet. Trump had his goons arrest Maduro. If you don’t like what Trump is doing then don’t vote for politicians that support genocide & regime change.
This may come as a surprise to you, but you can both condemn Trump’s actions AND recognize that Maduro was an illegitimate leader that stole an election according to every third-party audit. And not just like “well it was close, who’s to say who really won?” but like the votes went 2-1 to his opponent. He lost BAD, but decided to lie, cling to power and attempt to imprison his opponent. Maduro is a vicious dictator and calling him an illegitimate leader is not just a claim, it’s a fact.
And yes, it’s also true that Trump’s actions were an illegal act of war. Full stop. No questions at all there. But the people trying to condemn this by making Maduro out to be some innocent saint are either trolls ignoring his corruption, or people so ignorant as to the situation that they should maybe just shut the fuck up until they spend more than 2 minutes learning about it.
Maduro is not an illegitimate leader. The Bolivarian revolution was widely supported among the people of Venezuela and freed millions from poverty, until USA sanctions demolished their economy. The express purpose of USA sanctioning, according to the US government is to, and I quote, “bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government”. USA+EU sanctions additionally murder half a million innocents per year according to recent serious sociologic and medical studies.
By defending regime change under extreme economic sanctioning, you’re approving the murders of 38 million people over the past 50 years of economic sanctions, and directly supporting the CIA strategy of “starve them until they change their minds”.
Colombia and Brazil both declared Maduro’s election as illegitimate. They have also been in opposition of the capture of Maduro by the USA.
Colombia and Brazil both declared Maduro’s election as illegitimate
Source?
A) They didn’t up the bounty for his arrest. They upped the reward for legitimate information that could be used to support having him arrested. Since Biden never gave that bounty to anyone and didn’t arrest him or request he be arrested, then that should trigger in your thinking process that there is a huge fucking difference in policy between “We are investigating whether it is legally valid to pursue narco-terrorism charges against a world leader who we think did not win a legitimate election” and “We are invading a nation to capture a person to bring to trial without showing any evidence.”
B) That link was about getting information leading to his legal arrest through international cooperation in a court system, not about unilaterally deciding to invade a country and kill a bunch of people to extract a high value target.
It is an act of war, the “capture” of Maduro is a kidnapping, and the deaths of ~80 cuban and venezuelan security and civilians is murder.
USA is a rogue state.
Not many people are bringing up that the US invaded a country and not only kidnapped a guy, but left a trail of bodies.
Please, we desperately need to be invaded and conquered by the most convenient communist country
Edit: not sarcasm
Christ, I hope my country is putting some serious effort into jailbreaking their F-35s.
So long as you’re fine with whatever consequences the US is willing to impose on you for doing so, this can’t seriously be that hard—right? IIRC, the US just controls the server that signs flight plans? So… worst case scenario, that’s managed by a chip without any write access? Reverse engineer the little chip to ask your own server for permission, no?
Given we’re talking about state-sponsored capabilities here, am I oversimplifying things? I don’t feel like I am.
The US media is owned by the same oligarchs who benefit from his fascism. Why would they bite the hand that feeds?
SHAME
Special Millitary Operation in Venezuela. Quick 30 minute adventure.
Dipshits are gonna be greedy, fuck it up and turn it in to an another Afganistan. This time really close to home.
Nobody likes Maduro. They should play with that, take their successful 30min and exit.
If nobody likes Maduro, why is the USA placing Venezuela under extreme economic sanctioning?
Maduro is not an illegitimate or unpopular leader. The Bolivarian revolution was widely supported among the people of Venezuela and freed millions from poverty, until USA sanctions demolished their economy. The express purpose of USA sanctioning, according to the US government is to, and I quote, “bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government”. USA+EU sanctions additionally murder half a million innocents per year according to recent serious sociologic and medical studies.
By defending regime change under extreme economic sanctioning, you’re approving the murders of 38 million people over the past 50 years of economic sanctions, and directly supporting the CIA strategy of “impoverish them until they change their minds”.
nah bro its just a gentle love tap
