• Jeffool @lemmy.world
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    And they’ll just hire more H-1B visa employees for more and more smaller roles, and they have them in an even tighter place than they could American workers. It’s not like they’re blind to the issue. It’s the plan.

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      I think offshoring/nearshoring is booming right now. Tons of “Global Capability Centers” being built. It’s even cheaper than H-1B.

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      There is an ironically a huge opportunity for upheaval of corporations because they are actually giving up huge amounts of control and leverage on their part.

      Like at what point is their essentially company who’s sole job being brand making and management of contracts going to be side stepped?

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    They don’t care. They only care about short term profits. Capitalism only cares about immediate profits and doesn’t plan for the long term. The management at the top know they won’t be there when the system fails. They’ll get their massive paycheques and cash out their stock long before it crashes.

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      I worked in the energy industry for over a decade and a half and I was amazed at how every CEO we had (because they rotated out every couple of years) seemed to only pick the actions that made stort term money while royally screwing over the next CEO’s tenure. And the crazy part was everyone knew this was happening. Some CEOs even stated the quiet part out loud.

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      They can’t care. If they don’t relentlessly pursue profit quarter after quarter, they’ll be consumed by companies who will. There is no planning for the future, only profits.

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        Wasn’t Amazon’s whole thing for a while that they weren’t going to relentlessly pursue quarterly profits? So they can care, they just often don’t.

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          Walmart used to, probably still does, use other stores as welfare generators for newer stores. The reason was/is because that means the new store can undercut all local competition long enough to drive them out of business and the jack the prices afterwards. Corporations focused so heavily on lying, cheating, and stealing do not do anything out of the good ess of their hearts.

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            Funny thing, Walmart tried to do exactly that when they were trying to get a foothold in germany, but failed massively, lol.

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          Companies can bleed ridiculous amounts of money if it means that they can push competition out of the market. Couple less profitable, or even negative, quarters are fine, if they’re expecting good enough return for that investment. So, they’re still firmly on track with maximum profit hunting, sometimes it just takes some money to make even more money.

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        Also the system selects for mental illness so a lot of the worst offenders here literally can’t feel empathy.

  • dropped_the_chief@lemmy.world
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    That generation began as quite conservative. It is going to be real fun watching their brains get scrambled and refried. We have to be ready to catch them when they fall.

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    Where have we seen that before? The computerisation of companies and governments in the 90s? As I recall the most junior entry level jobs went causing massive skill development problems and shortages of trained staff to fill vacancies that went on for years.

    • Napster153@lemmy.world
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      The rich hedonistic elites do not care for their lives are too short and too fast.

      If all options to escape judgement are exhausted, they will just leave the server.

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    So I’ve been utilizing the big LLMs to help increase my productivity at work. And I have to say, yes, it absolutely makes me more productive.

    However, I can only be more productive because I already have 25 years of experience in my field and I am already a senior and I can guide the “AI” to what I really need help with and I can see the mistakes it makes.

    There is absolutely no way someone who hasn’t already been doing this job for 25 years would be able to just sit down with an AI assistant and replace me.

    And my company has not hired any associate level employees who could replace me. All my peers are 5-7 years away from retirement. I’m 11 years away from retirement.

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      Yeah LLM is a useful idiot that somehow read all the programming books. It can spit out a coherent sentence yet it doesn’t understand it. Comprehension is left to the user. It’s an advanced rubber duck

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      I just started messing with making a server, I’ve never done it before, never really wrote code before except an Arduino blinking light. I don’t think I would have gotten the server done, at least as well or as quickly without an llm. That said, even I notice it fucking up a lot and losing the plot.

      I have found it really useful in identifying useful stuff in scrap piles, one of my hobbies is scrounging so that’s been good.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      The problem is that it doesn’t matter how useful and irreplaceable you know you are, if a company decides it’s replacing you with AI, they’ll do it anyway. They may decide later that they were wrong, and you were right, but it doesn’t matter, you’re still unemployed.

      Companies shoot themselves in the foot all the time. You can’t count on them to do the smart thing, even if it’s obvious. The second some C-Level gets these the idea that they can save money by firing a bunch of people, it’s going to happen, no matter how ill-advised.

  • Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
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    Don’t worry. They’ll figure smth out. Probably some kind of pay-to-work scheme, like a reverse internship

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    No shit? I guess because it’s not coming from us „luddites“ it‘s suddenly worth paying attention to.

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    The lost geenration that was denied a place in society should use their skills to create a new society without them

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    The onus is on us, we senior tech workers, to gouge the absolute shit out of future companies to show them the error of their ways.

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      And when they start hiring juniors again, onboard those motherfuckers like you’re teaching a CS degree. The young’ns deserve to learn, this is some bullshit.

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        And when they start hiring juniors again, insist on onboarding those motherfuckers like you’re teaching a CS degree

        I love this. And I will.

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        Only semi-related but check for local computer clubs/maker spaces in your area. Ours does everything from tutoring/group learning to monthly LAN parties. Learning CAD from Youtube is okay, learning CAD while being able to ask questions of a professional engineer is even better!

        I’ve been helping people move to/learn Linux (we have a bunch of donated Windows 10 desktop hardware to play with), it’s pretty rewarding to teach people who actually want to learn (training new hires who are clearly bored is not so much…) and we usually end up giving them the machine that they’re learning on if they need it.

        Just another way to pass it on and get some offline nerd socialization, if you’re into that kind of thing.

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          my main side project is software to create libraries of things and federate them - and part of that is I’m setting up a library here in Barcelona this year.

          And part of what we’ll hope to be offering is basically free tech education along those lines. Eventually I’d love to see us training people to develop, providing our own hosted LLM, and making software for the community all without the need to interact with the shitty capitalist profiteering world.

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          This is delicious in every way, I really love it. Kudos!!

          Here’s my tidbit - if you’re in the US and in a not-tiny or remote part of it, good chance you can find people offloading old Dell business-class laptops, workstations, all the way up to v. spendy server machines, depending directly on number of school systems, corporate office spaces (and etc), and industrial or info-tech type businesses nearby. Respectively, and with some overlap and such 😅

          Beyond the obvious benefits for sustainability (reuse!) and affordability - business-class Dell have always been engineered quite well (expensively, and uhhh… opinionatedly, lol).

          Arguably even more useful, all those well-engineered things were made in huge volume. You will ~always be able to find cheap parts. And, if buying a lot, by having a handful of the ~same thing (all destined for a dumpster), you already get redundancy, and…ahem…some very useful teachable moments lol.

          It feels like a cheat code. Place populated enough and there will def be businesses whose main thing is snapping these up, cleaning up and etc and reselling. But I’m in a not-tiny place and I still see some deals. OTOH, all of that got a lot worse once hardware prices jumped the shark, so, maybe this tip is already outdated.

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    Warning a company is like talking to a wall. It doesn’t care about tomorrow, hell, it exists on exploitation of tomorrow for today. If you expect the free market or business to save you, youre fucked.