cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/36713215

I don’t even know what else to add to this headline. This is so fucked up and tragic scary and infuriating and it will in no way slow the resistance.

  • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    Too many Americans feel like having Temu Gestapo is kind of okay, maybe even necessary. It’s not like they got some random foreign mercenaries to work at ICE, these are Americans, often with families who fully condone it. The fish rots from the head but here a good chunk of the base was always rotten.

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    I’m not convinced that it was self defense. Killing the driver of a vehicle does not cause the vehicle to magically stop. If you were truly in danger, the time spent drawing, aiming, and firing would have instead been used to GTFO of the way.

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      as someone who watches way too much bodycam footage, this, right here.

      so many cops threaten deadly force four or five times before using it.

      this gravy seal outright murdered this poor woman because he felt his authority being threatened, NOT his personal wellbeing.

      piece of shit needs to face justice, if not in a court then on the streets.

    • Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip
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      There are multiple videos from different angles. It was extra judicial murder. He was not in danger of being run over.

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      They put the public at risk by using force. Literally created the situation to kill her by having a goon step in the path of travel

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      I think the agent made up his mind to shoot to kill before he drew his weapon. The casual manner in which he reholsters his weapon after firing and calmly walks after the car is almost as if it was a “job done” moment. To make things worse is the reaction and statements from Trump and especially Vance with a lame justification for the killing of this person.

      Sad to say but I think there will be more incidents like this to come.

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    It is funny how Reddit protects ICE and if you even suggest harm to them you get bans. Glad that here you totally free to support madlads, who decided/decide to snipe out ICE agents or leak their personal data to public.

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    I just listened to a US politician on LBC radio trying to defend the ICE action. He claimed to have watched the video 20 times and said it was clear the driver was trying to run over the agent. I’ve just watched it and it’s clear the front wheels were turned well to the right avoiding the agent who walk across the front of the vehicle. If anything the driver was deliberately avoiding the agent.

    Sad times USA.

    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Reminds me of that video from a few weeks ago of that cop ACTUALLY trying to run over a teenager and driving over grass and stuff to do it. Things are so messed up right now.

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      A group of men with guns surrounded her car and she fucking panicked. It’s not surprising she attempted to flee, it doesn’t take that much brain power to know to never use your body to stop a car and even the police would never use their bodies to stop a fuckin car.

      There was no verbal warning, there was no negotiation with her. Nothing. She got murdered because she didn’t comply. Fucking pigs.

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      Straight up 1984 “don’t believe your eyes” bullshit. The woman clearly turns the wheels and what’s to get away. So they just murder her.

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    Rules:
    
        Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
            Post news articles only
            Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
            Title must match the article headline
            Not United States Internal News
    

    It’s the first rule

  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    every single ICE agent should be treated in the exact same manner

    edit: after seeing the video, this is overwhelming evidence that any american citizen can and should fight back against these domestic terrorists on sight

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    This whole thing is as politicized as the israel/Palestine at this point, Im too exhausted to care and i cant trust anyone in the Midwest to give it to me straight.

    Im not even sure the midwest is real and ive been there.

    I dont even like ice!

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      No it isn’t, it’s quite simple. ICE is the Gestapo and are always in the wrong.

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        Ice has been around forever, they weren’t an issue until now because they aren’t the problem. Trump is the problem.

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        My sister is Jewish, she’s fine and just had a baby. Everyone in her temple is fine too.

        Im not jewish but went to the Jewish community center for all of my youth summer camps. Jews be doing fine.

        The nazi comments are endless, exhausting and meaningless.

        Trump is the problem, not Ice.

        Ice wasn’t bothering anyone you cared about when Biden was in office.

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        This is kind of what I’m talking about. You’re taking up so much space that there’s no room for others to speak.

        It’s exhausting, hard to follow, and it’s why you’re losing me as an audience…nd as an ally.

        You, mj_marathon, have my attention for one more (succinct) response: please tell me how you have been personally affected by this.

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    But the man with the gun was scared for his life so he was completely justified to shoot the driver in the head multiple times, instead of doing completely impossible manouver of side stepping the car/s

    I cant understand what happening here. Any officer doing their duty, be it police, military or firefighter, should always act in a manner that does not escalate the thing. Shouting to person “get out of the fucking car” and lunging at the car door does not deescalate things. Especially when three armed goons are circling you.

    God im happy i live in country where police school lasts four years and they have mandatory training and tests during their whole career.

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    I hate to think it, but part of me was cynically glad, in the knowledge that they’d killed someone, that they targeted a pretty white woman.

    If anything is going to sway more people to the correct side, it’s ICE gunning down a pretty white woman.

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    Literal fucking Nazi scum… I hate this fucking country and like 40% of the people in it…

          • TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Wow another anarcho-pantherist on Lemmy! Good luck arguing with the liberals over here on Lemmy.world. You’re better off ignoring any news/politics community on this instance and sticking to spaces friendlier to the left than to genocide apologists.

            Solidarity

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              Stop focusing on me, but instead the people who oppress you. Right now, it’s ICE and Trump. They’ve shown you they are willing to kill protest.
              Time to show them what that means.

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              Oh no there’s two dipshits now instead of one. Thanks for helping trump

              -an actual leftist

              • TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                Yea yea electoral politics is the only thing you care about. I’ve heard it before. Militant opposition to fascism doesnt involve voting for the less fascist party once in a blue moon, but that doesnt mean you can assume who I voted for or that I didnt vote.

                The US has been a violent occupier in my community since long before Trump and nothing about team blue winning in 2024 would have changed that. A so called “actual leftist” would understand the harms of punching left over fucking electoral politics.

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                  A so called “actual leftist” would understand the harms of punching left over fucking electoral politics.

                  Self deprecating assessment, or another self excuse to opt out of liberation?

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            You’d be having a bigger effect being angry on Twitter then, instead of (effectively) incentivising infighting in a social media predominantly inhabited by the people who are opposing all of these atrocities

            You’re doing a real good job of making me go “idgaf about Americans” with this non-solidarity, because from what I’m seeing you’re only driving people (with similar interests) away that could join in opposition to trump

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        You people are ridiculous. I hope you’re bots and not thinking individuals.

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            If you’re a Black Panther then where are you in these neighbourhoods protecting the people?

            All these tough gangstas in the USA but none of them standing up and actually protecting their “turf.”

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            Does she need to have your back? Was she even part of the dialogue until you whatabouted her into the conversation? She’s a shitty person and a fucking cop who supports bad historical policies that benefit the rich. But I can safely say that she wouldn’t invade a sovereign nation for her own personal gain. She doesn’t have a long history of fucking children and getting away with it. She wouldn’t tank the entire economy, remove people’s right to marry or get health care or endorse a reckless anti-vaxxer whose efforts will be felt for decades (but only by the survivors of outbreaks of what should be long extinct diseases). She would do shitty things to good people. She wouldn’t fix the system. But she wouldn’t be doing gestures around all of this. And maybe you can’t respect the idea of harm reduction. Maybe you don’t know a lot of people hanging on in the fringes or maybe you’ve crossed over it and don’t give a fuck about others anymore. But I still do. I still want my friends to live. I still want a future for the children of today.

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              you whatabouted her

              I corrected asafum’s miscalculation. Judging by the downvotes and replies, it is whataboutism with 70% of the population instead of taking down rulers.

              Fixing the system is what all of us need to do together. 70% of the population don’t want to fix the system from the top.

              The only future for our friends and children is to take the rulers down. Right now, 70% of the population don’t want a future.

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            I know that “lesser evil” isn’t a good material condition, but exactly how the fuck is this?

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      32% were in favor of this regime. 37% were indifferent. Only 31% voted against.

      So closer to 70% of people.

      • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
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        If the Harris campaign cared about law enforcement violence they did a dogshit job of communicating it to anyone

        Here’s to hoping at some point in the future we get candidates that won’t blow winnable races like her team did

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          The old joke is that party democrats always manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Winning as a liberal would be laughably easy if the DNC would get out of the fucking way. But the DNC is obsessed with making everyone wait in line for their “turn”, which means the only people “allowed” to run are the candidates who have put in the time, paid their dues, and toed the party line to prove that they’ll play nice with the official party platform. Which means the only democrats who ever make it to the stage are the most bland milquetoast career candidates imaginable.

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    Where is the shooter and his accomplices? Have then been detained or neutralized? Have they even been named?

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    “She was trying to turn around, and the ICE agent was in front of her car, and he pulled out a gun and put it right in — like, his midriff was on her bumper — and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times,” Heller said. JFC!

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        I think it’s a viable strategy for Trump. Just kill one of the people standing up every time, and pretty soon Americans won’t show up anymore.

        If Americans start shooting back, then you roll in the military and make an example.

        I hate this timeline.

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          That doesn’t really work. If you know history, that is usually the beginning of the end for them. It only breeds hatred and resentment. If they start shooting people then people will actually stand up. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a case where the authorities shoot a fairly large number of people and the people don’t rise up and fight back. They may not win, but it pretty much always leads to a fight, not just rolling over.

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          and pretty soon Americans won’t show up anymore.

          We really should stop showing up. Stop showing up to work. Stop showing up to buy things. Stop showing up to sign up for the military. Stop reproducing.

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      shot her in the face like three, four times

      The picture in the article shows one bullet hole in the windshield. Still murder ofc.

      (also it’s weird that the article only quotes the point of view of ICE, not the witnesses)

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        That’s because the other shots were from the side, not the front. Because the murderer wasn’t actually in the path of the car.

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        The hole was pretty far off to the right, very possible the dipshit couldn’t even aim point blank and only managed to get one shot through the windshield despite multiple fired.

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        Video is posted to Bluesky. The agent walks up to her car window and starts shooting almost immediately. One through the windshield the others through the driver’s side window.