And I thought they were supposed to be shying away from fossil fuels.

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      if i were looking to fuck with a Tesla, i’d pay close attention to any indication that the car was purchased recently. there are a LOT of people out there with a murder fetish, and i GUARANTEE that a lot of the nice new ones out there are really bait cars for gun owners that have been dying for a reason to shoot someone.

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        Yeah, probably a lot of Rittenhouse wannabes out there who wanna test the limits of castle doctrine.

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        You! You’re that pathetic Elmo dick rider from the other sub. He still isn’t going to give you money, you germ.

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            Bro you made exactly one comment where you tried to extend the base level of human empathy to Elon. Don’t you know you’re the devil now?

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              Read some of his other posts. He still thinks Elmo is a flawed god and will somehow come good, while trivializing the harm he does to millions of people in the meanwhile.

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                I think you just misunderstand their message. From what I can tell, they think Elon is unkind and generally disagreeable. Also, from what I can glean from their comments, they believe in the gentile approach similarly to the teachings of pacifists like MLK and Ghandi.

                It’s not wrong, it’s just a different form of resistance than you’re used. You’re used to violent, aggressive resistance more similar to the teachings of revolutionaries like Malcom X and Hamilton. That’s not wrong either, it’s just a different form of resistance than he’s used to.

                What’s important to realize is that we actually need both. In order to make change, we need to overwhelm the opposition with legal issues, gentleness in the face of violence, and rule-following at the same time as we overwhelm them with Tesla burnings, protests, and what have you. We have to do it all. Because they’ve been doing it all. They’ve been gently ripping at the seams of our systems until now, they can rip them apart. We need to rip at their seams at the same time that we tear at the loose ones.

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              please keep replying to my comments! i love it! almost as musk as i do about musk musk! oh, and it’s “you’re”, you dumb cunt.

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    I know it’s a joke, but many Tesla “solar” charging stations did actually use diesel generators a few years ago. Citation needed, but I can’t be assed to look up the article.

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      Not to mention the electrical energy stored in their cells has a fairly strong possibility of having been generated by a power plant consuming coal or petroleum.

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        I live in Alberta where most of our power comes from natural gas. I’m also an emissions and sustainability engineer. I did the math on environmental payback for an EV where I live and the EV is WILDLY better for the environment despite the power potentially coming from fossil fuels.

        If you tell me roughly where you live I can calculate emissions per kilometre/mile including the energy that goes into manufacturing the vehicle.

        There’s absolutely jurisdictions where EVs don’t make much difference - but most places they do.

        (large scale power generation is pretty effecient and most jurisdictions have some renewables in the mix. A car’s gas engine is much lower efficiency most places)

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          No disputes from me on your assessment. In principle I’m a big fan of EVs as a maturing technology and my only hangup with Tesla is its association with the person who is its CEO and the role he’s chosen to play in US politics.

          I’ll gladly champion a vehicle that has incredible efficiency in converting its stored energy into mechanical work, especially when that stored energy came from a source that’s 40-60% thermally efficient (for combustion-based processes) or derived from solar/wind/geothermal/hydro sources and can be partially recuperated via braking. It’s too bad there aren’t more EV options for people who want or need a 3/4 or 1-ton pickup (of which I happen to be a big fan for hauling/towing/plowing).

          The one area where I’m still dubious of electric vehicles is in cold climates, although I think I’ve read heat pumps are being used with success. Otherwise, I’d propose a small auxiliary tank (preferably propane, if infrastructure permits) and a “Chinese diesel heater”-type unit be installed simply for cabin heating/defogging. Few energy conversions make me cringe more than that of high-exergy electricity (derived from non-renewables) directly into thermal energy, convenient as it may be for the end user.

          Of course, it’d be nice if that combustive heat could be generated from sustainably-harvested hydrogen instead of an extracted hydrocarbon, but at that point, a fuel cell running a heat pump would be even better, with resistive waste heat from the FC an added bonus. But now it all feels a bit Rube Goldbergian…

          Anyway, what’s your take on EV use in climates with harsh winters (such as Canada/Alaska/Montana/Wyoming/Minnesota), especially when long range might be needed?

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            I have a few family members with heat pumps (I’m in Canada) and they work well. They do need to be supplemented for the coldest days, but they have an electric heater integrated into the system for that. Last month was particularly cold (every day was below freezing) and resulted in some very high power bills, but still worked out to be less costly than oil or even wood.

            In terms of EVs not working well in the cold… yeah and neither do Diesel engines. Need to plug in a block heater if you want your diesel engine to start on a cold morning. Seems a really easy fix to have something similar for an EV, and since you’re plugging it in anyway, it shouldn’t be a big problem.

            EVs are kinda a no-brainer in terms of energy usage. Way cheaper than gas or diesel, only problem is there’s a significant upfront cost at the moment. Once some lithium mines come online and we get some economies of scale going on making the batteries that upfront cost drops too. Other than the battery, an EV is way simpler than an ICE vehicle, and all studies have shown they will last significantly longer than an ICE vehicle. Electric motors aren’t all that complicated, the batteries are getting to be mature tech now, so there’s less that can go wrong with them than with complicated ICE powered vehicle.

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            My partner and I backcountry ski, iceclimb etc. One of the reasons we went with the Ioniq 5 was that we can sleep in the back and use the heat pump to keep us warm.

            We recently did a weeklong ski trip with it. We drove from from Golden, BC back to Calgary, AB (250km/150mi) in -16C (3F) and used 70% of a charge. One day on that trip, we were backcountry skiing in similar weather and the car sat outside in that weather for 8 hours. No loss of battery.

            One of the unexpected features I really enjoy is that I never pump gas in the cold any more. I programmed my work schedule and the car pre-warms for my commute. I get home, plug the car in, and it’s always ready to go.

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              Thanks for the great beta! When it finally comes time for me to retire the ol’ 14 y/o flat-4, I’ll keep your advice in mind.

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        Yes the fossil fuel industry loved to point this one out. “Hahaha! We’re so dirty even your clean tech can’t be clean!”

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            today i learned! the defining characteristic of vodka isn’t the raw ingredient but rather the distillation and filtration process that makes it a neutral spirit.

            according to the U.S. TTB (Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau) and the EU regulations, vodka is:

            • a neutral spirit distilled to at least 95% ABV (190 proof) and then diluted to no less than 37.5% ABV (EU) or 40% ABV (U.S.) before bottling
            • usually filtered, often through charcoal, to remove impurities and flavors
            • can be made from any fermentable sugar or starch—grains (wheat, rye, corn), potatoes, grapes, even milk whey
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              I wonder if biodegradable packing peanuts would work…I think they’re just starch, probably from corn.

              I’d love to build a still someday…

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                your particular sense of innovation concerns me, but you don’t have to wait to start making booze at home. for real, all you need is a bottle of juice, some sugar, some yeast, and some time. maybe a balloon and a straw if you want to be all fancy. seriously, though, search “wine from juice” on youtube.

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    Pro Tip, you don’t need gasoline to burn Tesla just puncture there battery and it will go kaboom. /s

    PS : THIS IS A JOKE DON’T EVER PUNCTURE A LITHIUM ION BATTERY IT IS VERY DANGEROUS

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        I remember myth busters made a video about that, something like if gas tank was almost empty it atpeast got ignited otherwise nothing even when shot at gas tank.

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    I thought this joke was going to be about all the cybertrucks needing towing because of yet another recall.

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      Everyone acting like it’s okay to throw eggs at billionaires’ yachts because of wealth inequality. Then you should have no argument against rich kids throwing caviar at homeless shelters because they disapprove of being asked to share. Just saying.

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        What an infinitely stupid response. The proportion of rich people owning a Tesla with respect to all Tesla owners is vanishingly small. When you burn a Tesla of an uninvolved person, you are costing them tens of thousands of currency and are probably destroying their only car.

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          Ah yes, the tragic wave of innocent Tesla owners having their daily drivers ritually torched by angry mobs. Definitely a real thing, definitely not just a few dealership lots going up in smoke under extremely convenient circumstances. Definitely not insurance fraud from a company that’s hemorrhaging value and propped up by enough tax subsidies to fund a small nation. Let’s all clutch our pearls and act like someone’s grandma just lost her only ride to church. You good, or do you need a GoFundMe for your imagination?

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      One holds human beings in distress, and the other a garbage vehicle. Your comment is disgusting and shows how you value life.

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        I agree. It’s a false equivalency.

        It’s super similar to the idea behind the original tea party. They didn’t do insane shit like burn down buildings with people inside, they tossed tea into the water. If we could do something similar, I’m sure we would.

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          Do you know what? No, you obviously don’t, and it’s sad.

          I wish that you would see the fallacy of your argument, but a cult of personality has you captured.

          Empathy and reading a room are not some of your strengths.

          Good day.