• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 months ago

    I know I wouldn’t want to travel here. White ladies from Canada, UK, and Australia have ended up in detention centers. They’re supposed to be the demographic MAGA pretends to want to protect.

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      2 months ago

      Wasn’t the Australia one for a legitimate reason though? They messed up and admitted they were traveling to tattoo someone on a tourist visa.

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        2 months ago

        You know, rounding tourists up into detention centers because they brought their work phone on their vacation is not normal behavior. Even if you want to deport them, fine - it’s your country, but detaining is not just a bit over the top.

        Let them figure out where to stay and how to get home as soon as possible, then deny entry in the futre. Like a normal country that doesn’t get off on “tough” rhetoric.

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          2 months ago

          They didn’t just bring their work phone, they admitted to an immigration officer they planned on performing a job in the United States. Also, other countries will detain you pending deportation as well. The US is unique because of the number of deportations and the speed they are building new facilities to deport people.

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        2 months ago

        If memory serves that was a German Tattoo artist. The Australian was deported for being pro-Palestinian.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        Wtf does that matter? We’re locking people up! What’s legitimate about that unless they’ve committed terrible crimes or are a threat to the public?

        Holy shit, that lady was gonna tattoo someone!

        Send them home, don’t put them in jail.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The AHLA said this does not align with Fifa’s statement that more than five million tickets have been sold, external and it creates a risk that “the anticipated economic lift may fall short”.

    Lol…

    It’s obvious what’s happening, but it’s not as good as people are thinking.

    The reason to kets are so expensive, is American reselling processes.

    Scalpers ought up all the tickets immediately, and instantly relisted them for higher. New scalpers are buying those, and listing them again.

    Everytime they’re resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster. And Fifa is likely getting a piece of that in addition to their original piece.

    FIFA is going to make a shit ton of money. Scalpers may lose some, but what little “economic incentive” from the games won’t materialize, because we’re almost guaranteed to have a bunch of “unsold” tickets that were sold 4-5 times already.

    People already there may be able to capitalize on tickets being cheap right before games start as scalpers panic, but no one will travel short notice. And once the first games air with a bunch of empty seats, people will try to wait till last minute and buy tickets. Likely getting ripped off at the event and trying to enter with fake tickets

    The entire thing is going to turn into a giant cluserfuck, and that’s without ICE running around like they’re almost guaranteed to.

    You couldn’t pay me enough to show up in the general vicinity of one of these games

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      2 months ago

      Yep, ai got tickets direct from FIFA. Two decent seats (tier 2). They cost me $450 each. They are reselling for $1200+. I am not selling but hope the scalpers lose.

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      2 months ago

      Everytime they’re resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster.

      Yep, this is why the scalper issue will never get resolved, because they also benefit from it. They will literally do every convoluted way to “prevent” scalping except the actual solution: resales can only be done at original ticket price or lower, and no reselling fees go to ticketmaster.

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        2 months ago

        That was pretty much how things worked for Ticketmaster in Norway when I had someone bail on going to a festival we were planning on attending together, as I recall. So it can be addressed, just probably need to be in a country with a functional government and regulations.

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        2 months ago

        I’d even be fine with resale prices limited to original sale price plus a nominal FLAT fee for ticket master.

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            2 months ago

            Look, I hate Ticketmaster too. But there’s an infrastructure cost. I started with a percentage fee, but that leads to incentive for higher resale values. A nominal transaction flat fee not to exceed $1.00 would make sense

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            2 months ago

            TM itself can fuck off, but a ticket supplier is providing a service, and transferring tickets is part of that service. Unless the seller is literally just handing physical tickets off to a buyer, the mediating service is using resources to facilitate the transfer, which costs them money.

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              2 months ago

              How much does UPDATE tickets SET holder = @newuserid WHERE holder = @olduserid AND ticket_id = @ticketid cost?

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                2 months ago

                That depends, how comfortable are you with SQL injection directly from the webpage with no other security measures?

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                2 months ago

                No idea, but I doubt it costs nothing to facilitate a secure transfer. And if scalpers are ever going to be deterred, systems like this will be necessary and have costs to do so. Obviously that’s not why TM takes their cut, but it will be an expense even in an ideal system.

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      2 months ago

      Would be funny if the only people attending the games were the last scalpers left holding the bag like ‘eh may as well’

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        2 months ago

        If they get resold 5 times, that’s four scalpers making money and one losing…

        That’s not gonna solve the problem, especially since Ticketmaster offers up tickets early to large volume buyers and even reserves huge blocks for them.

        Ticketmaster doesn’t give a fuck what the person who sits there actually paid or if the seat is empty

        Because everytime it resells, they get the same percentage of an ever growing number.

        The product is ticket sales, so they sell the same ticket as many times as they can.

        Empty seats won’t solve anything. And if it keeps happening it’ll end up like airplanes where they just sell someone else a new ticket at a discount and profit off the seat again.

        We need to actually fix it, and not just for the Cup

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    2 months ago

    Turns out people don’t want to come to your country when you harass them at the gate. Write that down, maybe we’ll remember it for later…probably not.

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      2 months ago

      No qualms about all the slaves who died building the one in Qatar but if the wealthy might be inconvenienced, then it becomes an actual problem

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        No qualms about all the slaves who died building the one in Qatar

        Also relatively unattended. In part because of the atrocious reputation of the county. But far more because it was 50⁰ C on a cool day out there.

        The American Games don’t even have that excuse.

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        2 months ago

        So far the immigration enforcement agency has managed to kill two people neither of them immigrants. Not that it would be better if they just killed immigrants, but at least they’d be sticking within their job description.

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    2 months ago

    This is PR, the group matches may be half full but i guarantee you every game after will be packed. I wish i was wrong but this is just wishful thinking.

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      i guarantee you every game after will be packed

      Time will tell. I suspect there’s a certain bias, as the high rollers who can afford to fly halfway around the world to sit for a few games aren’t the ones TSA will be manhandling.

      But I can also see a lot of foreign news media scaring people off from the games based purely on the growing reputation of fascist Western travel conditions.

      I guess time will tell. There’s certainly not a shortage of locals who can fill a stadium. So it might be a moot point.

      I do think we’ll see a bunch of empty seats in high profile matches though. Corporate accounts love to gobble up more prime seating than they know what to do with.

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    2 months ago

    So, a lot of tickets have been sold, but no hotels have been booked so far? Maybe ticket scalpers don’t need hotels?

    And why the heck should anybody travel to the US under the current administration, where ICE puts random people in concentration camps?

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      2 months ago

      I highly recommend people avoid the USA. It’s really bad. Yes, you will be arrested and the more time you spend in prison, the more money they get. So they won’t let you go for months/years. Don’t come here.

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      2 months ago

      Yep bunch of scalpers gonna be out cash…and honestly hope no one from a foreign country comes here until ICE is gone. I think people are realizing how dangerous it is to come here as a foreigner right now.

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      2 months ago

      i heard the scalpers were trying to sell it on the different subs related to the world cup, most of them get balked and thier posts getting deleted.

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    2 months ago

    If people are dumb enough to gather around and watch people kick a ball around AND pay anything for that privilige, they are dumb enough to travel anywhere and pay more money.

    US is a stupid shit hole because of stupid people, and watching people play kick ball just drives home how stupid people are.

    There is no hope.

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      2 months ago

      I love watching sports but I don’t love paying $100 per ticket (on the low end) in a publicly funded stadium where somehow the billionaire owner gets $98 of that. Sports fans are crazy.