• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      17 days ago

      All you need to do is put a solar panel under a lamp post, infinite electricity.

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      18 days ago

      “Pffft … batteries are for toys … my delusions tell me the following pictures are fake because I say so and I don’t need to prove anything because jesus tells me petroholics like me are always right:”

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        Wouldn’t it be better to have them underground with vents?

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          “Of course! Houses, shopping malls, bridges, skyscrapers and churches should all be underground! Somebody’s gotta pay to keep those diesel excavators running!!”

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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        Those aren’t batteries, batteries are black and gold and round. Those things are evil woke liberal batteries and so don’t work.

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        That’s great and all, but I’m still waiting for it to be affordable to install my own so that it can also be a whole-house uninterruptible power supply.

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          Obviously it depends on your use case but at least for me having an uninterruptible power supply for the maybe one day in 4 years that I have a power cut, it isn’t worth it unless the installation cost is negligible.

          I think for most people putting a few panels on the roof is probably good enough. Especially if they end up getting an electric car in the end which can do reverse charging.

      • Gormadt@slrpnk.net
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        Obviously fake, everybody knows that batteries are ruined by rain. Just like magnets.

        Next you’re gonna tell me that the Moon can come out during the day!

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          17 days ago

          Heard a fantastic quote this morning for people with similar believes:

          This are the same people who ask ChatGPT what time it is

          Beautiful !

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            I’ve unironically met people who use ChatGPT for everything. (and who unironically now think magnets are turned off by water since the president said it)

            Like I literally had coffee with someone who while we were chatting they mentioned that they “asked ChatGPT if the place was queer friendly” before they agreed to go out for coffee.

            It’s like bro, did the pride flags year round not tip you off? The maps link literally has pictures of the place with snow on the ground and pride flags in the windows!

            So many people have forgotten how to think and it’s infuriating. They’ll believe a chatbot before their own eyes.

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      they’re also getting the benefits of solar, despite voting for the moron nixing renewables while peddling coal and oil.

      States won by President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election accounted for 74% of all solar capacity installed in the first quarter

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      17 days ago

      Or simply run dirty energy as a last resort. You don’t need to, and shouldn’t be, dependent on a single energy source.

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    Surprised the Pedo-in-Chief doesn’t immediately halt this so he can get more money from the coal lobbyists

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      Solar is more efficient. The corporations will move over to the most efficient power source regardless of what the administration may or may not want. Continuing to use coal just to appease Trump is stupid.

      Anyway they can just lie and say that they are using coal for everything, it’s not like anyone is going to check

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        Bold of you to try to make a distinction between this admin and corporations. But of course, they’ll hedge. My point is that they do so uphill and slowly, without the research, subsidy/tax incentives and media praise that would typically accelerate progress towards such an obvious next step

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          Companies tend to be international. No matter what they might be telling the Trump administration in the United States if they’ve got solar desires in other parts of the world they’re going to pursue them without having to prostrate themselves at the altar of idiocy. Hell, they might get praise in other countries for pursuing solar.

          So they know the economic benefits and they know their benefits would be doubled if they were operating in the US as well.

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          Those corporations are happy with the Hormuz situation you think? More likely they let grandpa shit his pants on TV because the current idiocracy is even more corrupt than the previous oligarchy.

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        The current problem with mass solar plants is that they lose a good chunk of the stored energy before it is distributed to where it goes. Obviously far better than coal, but the panels need to be at the source of where they need to go, hence why roof top solar panels on buildings are great idea. Wind power is a lot more efficient, but it isn’t like we can all plonk big windmills on our roofs.

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          16 days ago

          Solar energy isn’t magic. Power efficiency losses are the same for all power generation sources.

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    but experts say coal emits carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, and several other pollutant
    What the hell is this crap reporting. It’s not like this is a contested fact or an opinion.

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        Much of North America has enjoyed electricity steady enough not to think much past don’t wiz on the electric fence.

        That was a multi-generational achievement.

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          16 days ago

          *stellar, not solar, the carbon in coal wasn’t formed by our sun but a different star far in the past

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            Now you’re just splitting hairs. I mean we’d still call solar panels “solar panels,” even if they were collecting energy from another star (say, on an interstellar spaceship).

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          Deep sea vents aren’t, unless you’re including the formation of the solar system as ‘solar’

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            unless you’re including the formation of the solar system as ‘solar’.

            I did say “if you follow the trail back far enough.” Same goes for uranium. Born from supernovae (exploding stars).

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        Sadly from personal experience, no, the general public does not know that coal power plants work by burning coal to boil water, and are horrified at how trashy the concept is.

        High-key a great way to persuade them to support renewables. Associate coal with the image of people in underdeveloped countries burning fossil fuels in their own homes to exploit their own preconceived biases.

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    The MAGA response “No it didn’t! No it didn’t! Fox and The Anointed One didn’t say so! Fake news! Fake news!”

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    This is actually a pretty major indictment on the US. Coal is one of the worst most inefficient fuel sources for power generation, virtually every other fuel source is an improvement including incineration of food waste.

    A good test of how efficient fuel is is to see how much of it you still have left after you’ve theoretically burnt all of it. The fact that coal smoke is black is a pretty good indication of how bad it is. You’re throwing away a good chunk of your fuel.

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      I love the trivia that there’s traces of uranium in coal which go up with the smoke - coal is worse than nuclear in terms of radiological pollution.

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        This is an often misquoted fact. The study that compared coal and nuclear was only studying air pollutants, and obviously the steam stacks from nuclear reactors don’t have as much radionuclide pollutants as coal. However, the study did not look at other sources like wastewater - which is where most radionuclide pollution from nuclear reactors comes from (along with other sources like spent fuel, casings, and moderator rods).

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        When looking if it was feasible to convert coal power plants to nuclear, we found out that most of the coal sites have more radioactivity than is allowed for a future nuclear site

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        17 days ago

        The article talks about energy, while they mean just electricity generation. My graph was about primary energy demand.

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            It’s the most recent dataset “Energy Institute - Statistical Review of World Energy (2025) – with major processing by Our World in Data. “Share of primary energy consumption that comes from oil – Using the substitution method” [dataset]. Energy Institute, “Statistical Review of World Energy” [original data].” If you look at the historical data you’ll notice that year over year changes are small. The reason coal is declining is because coal-intensive industrial processes have moved to other countries and because of the current transient natural gas glut due to oil fracking. This will not last.

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              So the dataset doesn’t cover the time period the article is talking about?

              I think the article showed a small blip where solar gained footing over coal. I think it makes sense that this wasn’t what has happened in the past.

              Let’s see what happens I guess

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    Let’s just hope the Fuhrer doesn’t ramp up his attacks on it in order to satisfy the fossil lobby.