Flight instructor: “Do your best, lol.”
I wonder where the instructor landed.
Why the fuck is this under “/entertainment” on that site?
Are you not entertained?
No, since there are no onions.
/s
Not with a porn that starts this way. I quite frankly couldn’t finish
story about suicide
Entertainment section
This sort of this should get websites permabanned from Lemmy as a source.
Fuck you, dexerto
My name’s not dexerto and stop telling me to fuck off! I’m sick of everyone ganging up on me!
His shift was over
Clock out time is clock out time, especially if you get in trouble for overtime.
- Me, fired over an overtime dispute
“They expect one of us in the wreckage brother!”
During the flight, Bertazzo allegedly told Rosario, “You know what to do” before removing his headset, arranging his belongings, taking off his seatbelt and exiting the aircraft.
Importantly, the article also says she was trained, but still needed some hours with an instructor or pilot before being allowed to fly solo. He must have decided his other student that day wasn’t ready but felt she’d be safe without him. Better than some suicidal pilots who have crashed the whole plane.
Better than some suicidal pilots
Is this a common occurrence?
I wouldn’t call it common but there’s been enough for a Wikipedia page:
It isn’t what I would call “common”, but it happens: Suicide by aircraft
Most of those are the pilot crashing alone, but there have been some high-profile crashes of commercial flights that have either been confirmed or are strongly suspected to have been intentional, like EgyptAir 990, Germanwings 9525, and SilkAir 185. The mysteriously missing MH370 was also likely an intentional act.
During the flight, Bertazzo allegedly told Rosario, “You know what to do” before removing his headset, arranging his belongings, taking off his seatbelt and exiting the aircraft.
Instructor: (Encouragingly) “If you can handle this, Rosario, it’ll all get easier from here on out. The most stressful moments are when you’re just learning.”
Student: “Thanks, but I’m sure that…”
Instructor: dives out plane door
Student: …
I mean, if I were an immortal, I would get a job as a flight instructor just to pull this prank.
“Um, could you just fly over the airport for a minute? Great. Alright, see you later, maybe.” And proceeds to step out of the plane so she can have her oh shit moment and he’ll still be there to congratulate her when she lands.
“She was very shaken, but with complete professionalism she flew the plane to the airfield and made a perfect landing,”
Dude may have been having a rough time, but definitely knew his students.
Student:
She had a private licence, so she was more than capable of flying solo.
Did you actually read the article?
Rosario already had a private pilot license but was still building up her flying hours, meaning she was required to fly with an instructor or safety pilot.
She was required to specifically not fly solo due to her inexperience. Source: the article
Do you realise how little journalists know about aviation? I wouldn’t trust them to know which end of the plane goes forward.
Don’t say “did you read the article?” when someone states something that’s in the article if you’re going to turn around and say “well, the article is wrong”. It makes it sound like you didn’t read the article.
Having a private license does not imply she was qualified to solo the aircraft she was in. If her private license was for hot air balloons or gliders, for example, her private license alone would not qualify her to solo a powered aircraft. Assuming Argentina’s process is comparable to the US process, she would need a solo endorsement from a qualified instructor in her logbook before she would be considered capable of flying solo.
It’s a Cessna, a child could fly one.
And it’s probably the type she got her license in.
Agreed, but the article did expressly point out that she was required to have an instructor or a safety pilot, and that she was not actually qualified to solo in that aircraft.
I have a private license. I am certainly not “more than capable of flying solo” in a Cessna 150: I am rated to fly hot air balloons. I am reasonably confident I could get a Cessna 150 on the ground safely, but that confidence alone does not make me “more than capable” of doing so.
And it’s probably the type she got her license in.
Based on the claims in the article, that is very unlikely. If she got her private license in it, she would be qualified to solo. But they explicitly claimed that she was not. It is likely that she is qualified in some other single-engine fixed-wing aircraft and just needs to be checked out in the 150. But the article does not specify, and we should not assume.
If Argentina’s licensing structure mirrors the US, she might have a private license in “weight-shift-control aircraft”. She might be qualified to hang glide with a passenger, but that license would not make her “more than capable” of soloing in a 150.
Landings are pretty much your first focus after basic air work, and you can solo in 15-20 hours typically. A full license is around 80 hours (at least here in Canada), and she had a ppl already.
When i soloed my instructor was kind enough to get out of the plane while we were on the ground. What a horrible experience for this student.
That’s kinda strange. The process I’m familiar with, you get your student pilot license during training, then you get an endorsement from your instructor to solo. After you’ve had sufficient instructional and solo time, you take your practical test / check ride, and get your private license.
Maybe this was a requirement of the flight school rather than a licensing requirement? Maybe she got her private license in gliders or balloons, and wasn’t yet qualified to solo a powered aircraft?
could be getting an instrument rating or checked out on an unfamiliar aircraft.
Journalists know jack shit about aviation, chances are she was able to fly solo, but was working with an instructor to move towards a CPL. I did plenty of time with an instructor after getting my PPL.
I suspect you’re right. I’m in that process myself, but with balloons.
Rosario: “Wait! What the fuck are you doing?!”
Bertazzo: “I must go! My people need meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!”
Bill burr isn’t my favourite guy but: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ZSzuj1UpA&pp=ygUUQmlsbCBidXJyIGhlbGljb3B0ZXI%3D&ra=m
I’m always down with old Burr clips.
New ones not so much
Are we sure she didn’t kick him out? Seems very sus
Now you’re thinking like an airport book author!
Or a cop.
Idk. Seems like a lot of thinking for a cop.
Not really. Cops always default to “crime”.
Gotta pad those numbers, amirite?
Ah, a regular article for the “entertainment” category.
I don’t think Bertazzo died “mid-flight”
Came here to post this.
Mid-landing, really
“They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother. The fire rises.”
Bertazzo had completed another lesson earlier that day without incident
Without… jumping to his death…? Sometimes this standard journalistic phrasing just kills me. I shouldn’t be laughing
“He’s taught many lessons, and this is the first time this type of incident ever happened. Everyone was shocked, he’d never done that before.”
I’m so glad I’m not alone in finding this so funny.
What? He’d never died during a previous lesson?
During the flight, Bertazzo allegedly told Rosario, “You know what to do” before removing his headset, arranging his belongings, taking off his seatbelt and exiting the aircraft.
… ‘exiting the aircraft’.
Yeah that’s… accurate, but seems like perhaps an overly neutral verb to use.
Yep, just stepping out for a bit, to get some air.
Fuck me, this is an actual dark comedy skit, I can swear I’ve seen some skits from back in the day where more or less this is the plot.
I guess all I can say is that I wish I could give Rosario a hug, what an awful thing to be forced into.
Probably didn’t even have the courtesy to close the door behind him
Well I suppose… at least that’s not as bad as slamming it angrily.
I.e. he waited for someone he knew could land on their own
I think it’s good they clarified, so we know he hasn’t made a habit of jumping out, just to be swept up and caught by all his other trainees
“Without incident” means literally nothing remarkable happened. For example, if he had been behaving erratically or threatened suicide during the earlier flight, those would be incidents that should’ve tipped someone off that they should intervene and not let this guy back up.
If there had been an incident, further investigation would be warranted to determine if this was preventable, and if so, who could have prevented it. The journalist is specifically highlighting that no one but the pilot appears to be at fault right now.
There’s also a huge issue in the aviation industry at least in the US where pilots do not disclose mental health concerns because it results in an immediate grounding - which means loss of pay.
Instructors are often also new pilots who use teaching to build up flight hours until they can land a carrier job, and also have a boatload of debt from their training. So, they’re effectively stuck with trying to just deal with it, or face bankruptcy.
Xyla Foxlin is a youtuber and amateur pilot who had faced a mental health issue and was grounded for quite some time, she has a few videos talking about it.
because it results in an immediate grounding - which means loss of pay.
I can’t think of a more macabre example of why making people’s livelihood depend on their health is a bad idea. That also applies to other jobs, where a creeping loss in performance might not immediately kill, but far more so in professions where lives are placed in the care of someone who can’t afford to be honest about their reliability.
It’s like siths’ rule of two, except 740,000.
