yeah I’m not surprised, I watched the prequels. This guy was a legend in the 70s, that is like 50 years ago.
He hasn’t done anything great since co-writing Willow 40 years ago. Go to his IMDB, he’s lived out of star wars nostalgia since then, and all of them after the initial trilogy was a downgrade.
I lost every ounce of respect and admiration I had for this man after he sold the franchise to Disney.
You really held out for a while, huh?
Lemmy has some of the best takes in conversations. I love it here.
No this isn’t abnormal. He’s been a shit for decades now.
Flukey dilettante regards stochastic parrot as unfathomable prodigy
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This reads like one of those mass-delete gibberish Reddit comments, lol
It’s not every day you get to use a word like dilettante, so I figured I’d make a salad
Thanks for that, Dennis Miller.
Sounds like something a pedophile would say
This is what passes for journalism these days? Fuck off
Some of the people doing the fan-based YouTube Star Wars videos are using AI and I can honestly say the short clips are amazing. So he’s not wrong in that aspect.
I would like to think that not every prestigious filmmaker is vulnerable to the AI propaganda, but
What a condescending opener. Whatever you think of George Lucas, he’s made some cool stuff, he did it the old fashioned way, and he’s not constrained by resources. But rather than listen to what this guy has to say on the topic, he begins with the presumption that no, he must be deluded from swallowing propaganda.
I’m hardly George Lucas’s biggest fan but this writer can blow me.
He made 2 and a half good movies in the 1970s. That’s literally it.
Lucas has never seen a technology he wasn’t willing to shoehorn and abuse in one of his films.
He’s like the polar opposite of James Cameron.
Anyone who saw the Special Editions and expected anything else deserves to be unpleasantly surprised right now
Continuing that unbroken streak of bad artistic decisions towards an inevitable Star Wars Special 50th Anniversary Slop Edition reissue.
NGL I would buy a ticket to at least the first movie just to commentate as loudly and obnoxiously as possible until I got kicked out.
Not sure why you’d be kicked out. You’re not disturbing anyone. You’d be the only one in there.
I know you’re joking, but ya know… what kills the joke? Is how wrong you are. There’s gonna probably be plenty of dumbass folks there.
Exactly, just as there are plenty of zombies using meta and twitter. Didn’t anyone ever wonder why they wanted people to breed so much?
I mean…maybe? I didn’t realize there was a strict code of conduct on Lemmy where our jokes had to adhear to realism. Very sorry for the mishap. I’ll only tell jokes where the punchlines seem they could happen in real life.
So a guy walks into a bar. The bartender says “What’cha havin?” And the guy says “A MENTAL BREAKDOWN!!!” and then proceeds to cry that his wife has left him.
…I just don’t know about this realism humor.
Dude my bad. Didn’t mean to hurt you.
Also I was just launching off your joke. Cause the real joke is how much our society has become brain-dead drones.
Your joke is hilarious because I’m sad now! I wish I could go back to imagining you being applauded for shredding a movie in a theater, but now I can only laugh at sad humor.
Dear gods, does this mean a second Holiday Special???
With AI gen Carrie Fisher
Its weird that he really was on the forefront once because he did physical effects with interesting camera shots. it felt new and different.
AI is not going to give you that, it will suck. CGI sucks already too.
Oh well not like he is relevant. A new hope was at least interesting, but its been nothing after that anyways.
He used what was available at the time. For the original trilogy, that was practical effects.
The prequel trilogy was a bit more… Dodgy thanks to eagerly embraced CGI that wasn’t fully baked yet.
People famously critiqued the reworked original trilogy due to various dubious creative tweaks. Like waking on Jabba and Jabba just having a funny reaction instead of how you would expect him to react.
Nothing he added was pointful. All of the CGI retouches of the original trilogy were pointless CGI effects for the sake of having pointless CGI effects. At one point in the Mos Eisley sequence a huge pack animal walks through the frame, obscuring almost all of it. Why? Because it was some computer generated shit to throw in!
If he’s embracing AI then he is once again on the forefront. AI has the ability to revolutionise the industry in a way that it needs in order to survive - greatly reduce costs and greatly reduce production times.
Movie studios are quickly moving to the same situation that video game developers are in now thanks to ballooning costs and long development times - a situation where if every single game they release isn’t an absolute smash hit seeking 20 million copies at full price, they’re going to go under.
The movie industry is in free fall. AI adoption is one of the only realistic paths forward.
AI has the ability to revolutionise the industry in a way that it needs in order to survive - greatly reduce costs and greatly reduce production times.
Do you know what those words mean?
AI is being used as a force multiplier, and it’s being used as a force multiplier for evil. It’s being used to replace jobs, to put hundreds, thousands, and eventually millions of people out of work. At scale, it takes up more power than entire cities do, and the data centers and power station upgrades that it requires at that scale ends up with companies literally demolishing entire residential areas, forcing people out of their homes.
AI is not worth the trade-offs and the massive sacrifices required for it. It is destroying society.
I do. It has the ability to revolutionise the dying, spiralling out of control movie industry. How? By cutting costs dramatically, and by reducing production time. What would usually take 2000 people for $200mil might now be doable with 50 people and $200k. That’s revolutionary technology.
AI is not “destroying society” 🤣
1,950 people out of work, and an extra $199.8 million for the handful of suits producing doesn’t sound like it would be a net gain for society
Needs to survive? Are you kidding me? Good stories, good direction. You don’t need 47 million dollars to make a movie.
Can you show me that “the movie industry is in free fall”? I have seen many fantastic movies lately.
I guess you could consider AI to be a form of animation, but I really don’t see them improving anything if they keep churning out the same crap for the big budget movies.
Look at the consolidation of the market due to failing studios. WB aren’t selling because they’re doing well. Disney is releasing extremely expensive flop after extremely expensive flop. Yes, the entire movie industry as we know it is in a fight for survival, has been for years.
AI enables significantly quicker and cheaper iteration and experimentation. You stint have to hire a gigantic CGI studio to get cgi on screen anymore, which enables a much more streamlined movie making process. It also enables much more creativity because there is far less risk. A studio would be much more likely to sign off on a director making a short to pitch for a full movie if it only costs $2k but has cgi/locations/etc matching a $200mil blockbuster.
Failing studios due to their mad rush to build out streaming services, taking on massive debt, and trying to shuffle that debt around. Doesnt help that they don’t pick up movies that are worthwhile and instead try to follow formulas. They want intellectual Property for a long term franchise, park ride, and merch. Consolidation desires IP.
For example on major movies: I saw someone on Nebula say everything that went into making The Barbie Movie was what made it work. But instead of focusing on what THAT was and making a different movie, they immediately start thinking: milk the Barbie movie for a sequel and more merch and a Barbieland.
Point is: they made shitty decisions. I am not sure AI will help because they will still do the above and just pay less people.
At least thats how I see it.
I could see AI being used as a story board, sample scenes, something like that. Beyond that, nah I don’t even want to see it.
The reason that they want franchises to milk is because it’s virtually risk free when one lands, at least for another 2-3 movies/series. They can justify the $200mil cost because it’s guaranteed to make a tidy profit. Without that franchise money, like I said - one bomb and they’re toast.
Only because he had to. As soon as it was possible he went cg and blue screens.
Not going to get into the AI debate; I will agree that BAD CGi sucks there’s so much CGI you never even notice and without it the scenes would be horrible. The mai. Reason “CGI sucks” is because of the shift to go with the lowest bidder who’s then forced to work under horrific timelines and unable to actually do good work. CGI itself doesn’t suck, but it absolutely can when done by a low bidder in 1/4 of the time it needs.
Funny he uses Michael bay as an example in that video. Nothing will put me to sleep faster than a Michael bay movies effects.
I get your point though, it’s a tool when used artistically and with skill can be fine.
The only good CGI is one that holds up well after decades, and that’s basically only the CGI in the POTC 2 and 3 movies
it probably produces dialog that sounds more like it was written by a human
Harsh but accurate. Without Carrie Fisher to doctor his scripts (and his wife to find the film in the edit) Lucas was a director famously indifferent to dialogue or character.
My calendar app seems to have also “gone to the dark side.” It says next year will be 2027.
When did “easily making an obviously accurate forecast” start being referred to as “going to the dark side?” I just don’t see the connection…
Are the Sith, like, seers of the obvious in some of the expanded lore books?🤔 Maybe in the books the Sith tell people whenever water will continue to be wet, Sarlacc pits will remain dangerous places to practice parkour, and Space will continue to exist?
That’s a lot of words to smuggle in the baseless assertion that “AI is inevitable and we must embrace it”
NFTs are inevitable. Crypto is inevitable. Metaverse is inevitable.
Who said you have the embrace it? Do what you want! Doesn’t change what others are doing, nor should it.
I still have all three of those. I’m guessing you’ve got none.
Mmm yesss, cry about the down votes more.
Thanks, they’re representative of the clueless masses blinded by irrational hatred. Nothing will change by pointing them out, but it sure is entertaining to the pragmatic few.
Nah, they represent your shit take!
You’re so witty. Did you come to Lemmy straight from Reddit, or did you spend a couple years on Musk’s Twitter to really refine your brilliant takes?
You can’t (in good faith) claim “AI is the future” is “an obviously accurate forecast” when half of Lemmy is actively trying to dismantle that notion.
Why not? Like babies at a space opera, they can cry all they like about things they can’t comprehend that they wish would go away.
Except they’ll be just as effective as they were at making Bitcoin go away. (Bitcoin still exists, people still use it.)
Nobody uses Bitcoin lol, it’s a speculative asset now, not a cryptocurrency. You’re an idiot if you use it.
Appreciate the ignorant ad hominems. You represent Lemmy very well.
If by “it’ll decay into a pathetic corpse of its former self after destroying things with actual value,” then sure.
But we both know that’s not what you were trying to imply lol
What will decay into a pathetic corpse of it’s former self after destroying things with actual value? The only things I can think of that match that description are the USA in the short-term, and humanity in the long-term.
Hmmm… Maybe you meant to respond to someone else.
Dude, USA affects all of the world already in a very significant way. Western world especially. While the decay of American imperialism is something a lot of us would like to see, it will, in the short term affect everyone negatively. The USA will not go out without a fight. Already, people across the world suffer because of it. It is precisely because of the USA and their economy. Economy, which is undoubtedly, by their own accounts, dominated by the AI tech industry. So, although indirectly, people outside the USA are negatively impacted by the AI. Not to mention direct impact it has (military literally being driven by AI).
Only one disagreement: you’re confusing the technology with it’s use.
A gun isn’t a blindfolded execution
A car isn’t a vehicular manslaughter.
A pool of water isn’t a homicidal drowning.
AI is not what you just described.
So AI is whatever makes you right and me wrong, basically? Of course the ones responsible are the people building products based on AI. Nobody is arguing LLMs themselves are evil. What I’m talking about are massive datacenters built overly fast so that they need to use evaporative cooling and micro-turbines is an utterly irresponsible use of that technology. It’s like rushing to build a faster car than China and so you don’t install brakes and your cars start killing everyone on the streets. Of course a car isn’t evil, it’s the people irresponsibly designing them. AI tech is constantly doing propaganda fear mongering that if you don’t use their product RIGHT NOW - you’re getting left behind. If you don’t integrate them in your business RIGHT NOW, you’re gonna get overrun by competition. And the product is not nearly as reliable as they push it and not nearly as powerful as they claim. It’s a universal tool that is inefficient at any specific, specialized task. In fact, it’s painfully INEFFICIENT. But you and I wouldn’t know it, because nobody is publishing exactly how much it costs to run and how much they are subsidizing the use of it. The technology is useful, even revolutionary, but the way it’s overwhelmingly being used right now is bullshit. This way is not sustainable, not profitable and will end up costing the entire world. That’s what’s gonna happen. The technology will stick and people will find best uses for it and start paying attention about its use. But I doubt it will survive in this current form.
Of course an AI booster would be a misanthrope too.
Thanks for your slanderous and inaccurate assessment.
Of course someone who confuses the use of a technology with the technology itself would also confuse an observation with judgment.
You’re the one who was reminded of the rot and failure of NFTs and decided to say “nuh-uh, actually people are bad instead.” You’re a misanthrope.
It’s your job to prove these things are actually worth keeping around at all.
Of course he did. He loves updating his classics every time some “new technology” comes along to let his freak-flag fly.
We’ll be seeing a re-re-re-re-release of A New Hope shortly where he uses an AI generated Boba Fett and Solo giving them a scene or two to develop a backstory.
