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Lots of venture capital money behind it. I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.
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If I ever find myself there I’ll just digg my way back to Lemmy
Fediverse ftw
Ooohhh a venture capitalist social media platform! I wonder how and in how many overly creative and putrid ways that site will try and fuck me over, inside and out.
Yeah, hells no
Wasn’t a lot of their tomfoolery why people relocated to Reddit to begin with?
Yes, people despised the changes they’d made and reddit was a breath of fresh air at the time.
It’s the same as here, and Reddit. All these sites are the same.
Lemmy has VC funding?
I actually think the lack of funding means Lemmy doesnt have the same incentives to enshitify itself.
Lemmy did have some funding for anyone curious but the good kind.
Yeah, I really hate how the Lemmy corporation abuse their users. Yesterday they released the new Lemmy subscription, Lemmy Plus, which removes their gazillion ads and their other shenanigans. Crazy stuff. Using the official Lemmy client is also pretty annoying, I miss using Lemmy third party apps. Overall I really wish there was an alternative free and open-source platform to escape to. Would be cool if it was also federated so no one is truly in control of it
It’s more a reference to the same type of posts, the same users, the same comments. Hell most people here can’t even use lemmy terminology. Most here still use Reddit speak.
What is reddit speak?
Really, how many people came here with no relationship to reddit? Why does this place even exist in the first place? It takes quite a bit of time for a culture to evolve. The reddit mannerisms were always going to be a given.
They’re betting that AI can help to address some of the messiness and toxicity of today’s social media landscape. At the same time, social platforms will need a new set of tools to ensure they’re not taken over by AI bots posing as people.
“We’re banking on AI as a competitive advantage but also, here’s why it’s bad” is quite a business strategy
Digg is coming back?
Whats next?
Fark?
Rotten. com?
rotten will make a comeback if any of those “save the children” bills get passed.
Fark never went away. I still browse daily.
Yeah, me too. Never made an account, but the headlines still give me a chuckle.
it still exists? wow.
I will never return to walled garden internet. You burned all your good will by being greedy and horrible.
Walled gardens go against the spirit of the Internet, anyway.
Conceptually what does this offer that the fediverse/threadiverse/lemmy/piefed doesn’t?
What then does it say about the actual value of this company and others like it?
If you want a hypercurated/focused reddit experience just join metafilter.
“We kind of opted for … let’s just keep building this plane as we fly it,” explained Digg CEO Justin Mezzell. “That means that it’s going to be very lightweight, and we’re just going to be aggressively shipping every week and just giving them new features as we go,” he added.
the camera pans over to the Fediverse where there are mint condition airplanes everywhere with the word FREE on them
Conceptually what does this offer that the fediverse/threadiverse/lemmy/piefed doesn’t?
Brand name; the simplicity of just going to a site and register instead of choosing an instance; algorithmic creation most likely.
Conceptually what does this offer that the fediverse/threadiverse/lemmy/piefed doesn’t?
To us? Nothing. To others? A single place to browse and sign up.
and maybe a place that takes more of reddits traffic
I can live with that.
All the AI features are a real plus /s
The warm and cozy feel of a VC-funded social network.
Normies can’t seem to help but flock to corporate websites only.
Maybe it’s because people drive them away from other spaces by doing things like calling them weird pseudo-slurs like “Normies”, instead of engaging with them as valid human beings with different lives, experiences and interests who don’t always want exactly what we want.
Yeah we are not using slurs enough. Other platforms are openly racist and therefore have better user engagement coz it’s “funny” being openly racist.
Well, actual users and niche communities that get more than 3 responses max might be one thing it offers.
Digg still exists?!
The eternal half life of suckage.
I left Digg 15 years ago. I’m surprised it’s still around.
I’ve only heard about it since in this way, some quick announcement about the “new Digg”. And, then, nothing.
Reddit banned me for saying “see a Nazi, punch a Nazi.” There’s no way I’m going to bother with Digg, that’s the past, and I have no doubt they’d sooner than later be the same as Reddit in that regard.
It wasn’t. It became something else, now they’re re-pivoting it back, but with more AI trash.
Interesting, but nah. They launched it before for influencers to join, and I’m not sure how many did. I haven’t heard much about it. It sounds like it’s gonna be very corporate run. I have no idea what the political climate will be, but there’s a lot of big money behind it, so that’s not great. I got kicked off Reddit for saying child abusers should be punished more harshly, which says way more about Reddit than it does about me. I don’t trust Digg to be any better.
They launched it before for influencers to join, and I’m not sure how many did.
The return of MrBabyMan
This is like the 3rd time digg is trying to exist.
4th, really: Popular Digg, the version that drove people to Reddit (which they labeled as v4), whatever it languished as after that and before now where I think users could only comment, and the new site that just went live.
The only Reddit alt I need is Lemmy.
lemmy certainly scratches the doomer/black pill/commie itch in everyone
Anything that takes users away from Reddit, and forces Reddit to compete, is a plus for me.
Being owned by venture capitalists is pretty much an assurance that they’ll turn it to shit as much as they can get away with. The entire reason people abandoned digg for reddit in the first place was because it was selling out to ad space and shill accounts and manipulation. The venture capitalists will want big returns on their investments.
That’s a fair point. Reddit has been openly hostile to its own users these past several years. It might help moderate that to have another alternative on the table, even if it too is a soulless corporate enterprise.
it got worst within the last year. they ban new users and old inactive accounts extremely fast. of course you can say its due to bots using same methods, this hasnt stopped bots in any case at all. its just targetting lowest hanging fruits.
This is quite toxic attitude. You should focus on what’s good for you - not what’s bad for someone else.
But competition IS good for me.
If people start migrating to better experience and better communities, they’re going to have to step up to stop the bleeding.
Reddit can get away with making terrible user experiences and killing 3rd party solutions because no alternative has lured enough of their base away.
I don’t agree. We’re not talking about a person or a charity. We’re talking about a VC-backed company. They can fuck off and die, and it’s not toxic – it’s just common sense.
But two corporate entities competing are better than one secure in it’s market share. Anyone with any sense would reject both for a fediverse option if it could be made to work well enough obviously but still.
Only marginally… maybe. Duopolies are still really shitty for consumers and that’s the best outcome to this. Significantly better would be if more people would realise what made internet amazing in the beginning and that logical consequences from that are that public spaces in the internet where the content comes from the people should be owned by the people.
Eh, what’s bad for capitalists is what’s good for the rest of us
Competition is good. Also the less data Reddit has, the slower A.I. models can be trained.
Silly question. Is Reddit still banning comments that say Lemmy?
I don’t have an account.
I also don’t have an account so I can’t answer your not silly question.
Idk, but now that you mention iy, I got a 2nd violation, for threatening violence that did not do so or even come close, to the point I think it was ad hoc in bad faith, to say for other reasons. I did mention lemmy not long before.
If they are advertising on Digg may work.
I’d like to see this place just a bit better
I heard that was highly community-dependent - the more high-profile a community the more likely for it to be removed.
I have a link to my Lemmy profile on my Reddit profile and not even shadowbanned 🤷
Dunny. I’ve mentioned it a few times. I don’t think they’re still removing them but I bet they are still suppressing them
Idk, I think there are also legitimate arguments for piefed !
Haven’t tried piefed so I can’t say.
We can have both, thats allowed :)
(That was the point of my comment 😊)
Such as?
To add to the other comment, the fucking blocking functionality just works.
On Lemmy it’s half assed so you can’t completely defed/block:
- If someone crossposts it to another instance it appears on the feed
- If you (as a normal user) block an instance you still see the crossposts and their users
On piefed you have many block options and they just work.
This is just off the top of my head.
Grouping comments of the same posts posted on different comms for one.
Keyword filtering to fade or outright block.
Idk if filtering is in Lemmy, but grouping comments definitely isn’t.
I love the grouped comments. I scroll through the comments on once instance, then I reach the next one and you can genuinely see the shift in priorities between communities. It’s pretty cool
What’s piefed? I looked at it and mostly saw lemmy instances.
It’s like Lemmy, but it has more features because the devs aren’t tankies and they actually do work instead of just denying genocides all day
Removed by mod
AI image
real ICE vehicles are unmarked
Are there any plans to improve Piefed’s RSS feeds? I primarily browse through Thunderbird, and Lemmy’s feeds are a lot more content-rich
Sounds like a good question for @rimu@piefed.social
It’s an alternative to Lemmy with some different features. Since it uses the same protocol under the hood, its instances federate with Lemmy. There’s more info on the differences here.
I could go for a text only version of this
That would be nice. It can probably be done by blocking images at the browser level. Wouldn’t be the same as a text only site though.
That’s what Usenet was.
yeah it was pretty good I was there
I miss it. SLRN and proper score file made it the best information tool on the internet back in the day.
I’m starting to agree. Was a bit quiet and every other post oddly seemed to be about Linux when I first signed up, but now I really like it. I’ve decided to stay.
This is a rerun, and the fediverse is better
The crossover I didn’t know I need
Unfortunatly niche communities are still dead on lemmy. I may have to use digg
Where they are… even more dead?
You expect niche communities to be lively in one day on digg? The reddit outrage is 2 years old still lemmy lack lively niche country
You just proclaimed you’re leaving Lemmy because it’s too dead, for a place with even fewer users. They pointed out the ridiculous reasoning behind your proclamation. It wasn’t a judgement on Digg, but on you
Learn to read i will use both and i specifically talkez about niche communities. You seems too mad for an non trivial opinion, calm down.
Not mad at all. Pointing out your outbursts are unwarranted.
As for learning to read, What you said
Unfortunatly niche communities are still dead on lemmy. [Implied: therefore] I may have to use digg
Which logically does not follow given it’s brand new and even more dead than Lemmy
Logically since custom communities are completely new I will give it a chance and if there is no lively niche after few months I can simply stop contributing. I am logical, you aren’t. You just mad that I will give a chance to a centralized social media
Again, not mad. I’m not the first person your spoke to. Just pointing out your inability to communicate properly
Do you really have to? I think these days its best to not create a new account for corporate run social media sites, and instead just lurk instead of being an active contributor. Ideally using a front end if available.
Shouldn’t this be in nottheonion?
