• 87Six@lemmy.zip
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        Because he couldn’t educate his child enough

        • to know he couldn’t spend that much on a whim
        • to know minecraft videos aren’t gonna be profitable starting solo in 2026
        • to even feel bad at all for what he did
        • to even realize how massive of a fuckup he just made after his dad found out

        That child is done for.

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          to know minecraft videos aren’t gonna be profitable starting solo in 2026

          How is this something you’d expect from a dad?

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            because it’s common sense that spending over 100k while earning 0 is not profitable

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            then I must have been a genius at 9 because I got an overcharge of like $10 on my phone subscription at about that age and when my dad told me I was mortified at what I had just done

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              My parents would never tell us what the money situation is, which is both a curse and a blessing. They would just say there was no money for it so I didn’t understand the concept that well. Took high school to learn about balancing checkbooks and such to fully comprehend what they were saying.

              I think parents should have a talk to their kids about finances in general though, not the nitty gritty, but understand how much goes into X to ensure Y. To find out the real value of a dollar in a more tangible way so they know, when mom and dad say they have $1K at the end of the month, that’s a hard cap, and they may soft cap it to keep savings for emergencies.

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              This post is making me realize the position I’m in and how I got here.

              My seven year old has my old switch, and uses that account. He always asks before buying anything and has never bought anything without permission. But he uses my Nintendo account, which is linked to my PayPal, which is linked to my credit card.

              This card used to have something like $7000 limit. Last I checked though it’s at 32k limit. I should probably set some kind of spending limit just in case on this setup.

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                yes…please. Before you get a legal battle or some stuff like that on your hands…

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    ITT: person deserves life changing debt and losing his job because he made a mistake

    Cmon yall, you can be critical of someone’s actions while also recognizing 6 figures of debt is absurd and not a reasonable outcome of this.

    What really should be the case is that the dad learns his lesson, loses company card access, kid learns his lesson, google writes it off, and the kid’s account is permanently banned.

    We don’t need to ruin someone’s life for this

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      Legally, the kid wasn’t old enough to contract the ads.

      It would not stand in court.

      I question using his work card to pay for some robucks for his kid.

      I question that his credit card was saved for Robucks, but was able to be used on Google Ads.

      I would not be surprised if he lost his job. I think that’s not unreasonable though the economy sucks.

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        Losing his job is a 50/50 IMO. We don’t know how his dad performed at work, if this is his first offense, etc. If all goes well, the dad gets google to write off the cost. Then the company sees that as a learning lesson and just revokes his card access. On the other hand, it could mean he is fired if he has already racked up other violations.

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          They’re probably running unlimited Amex. Google should legally have to write off the ad spend and cease the account.

          100k offense from negligence. I’ve not worked anywhere that would shrug that off. Of course, he could be family or otherwise protected.

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      Right?

      I swear people hearing stories like this want the absolute worst outcomes for everyone possible with 0 empathy.

      He likely used the company credit card once, got some pop-up and instinctively clicked “yes” as most people do causing the card to be saved to the browser.

      I’m sure the dad will find a way to reverse the damage (or at least greatly minimize it) and both will have learned their lesson.

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    “I left my son unsupervised with no controls or access restrictions, This is clearly someone else’s fault!”

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      What? What led you to conclude this? I didn’t read this specific article, but I watched the video and as far as I can remember the father says that he didn’t mean to do that, it was an accident and he acknowledges it as his fault

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    Dad wants to punish the son and to show him that actions have consequences…

    Dad also records a viral video for that chanel and mentions that the chanel is probably not gone for long…

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    Oh well, looks like it’s the company’s problem now since it’s their card. They should be more careful. Hope they have fun dealing with YT.

    Anyway everyone needs to go to that kids minecraft YT channel, subscribe and hit the bell icon. Also sign up for his highest Patreon tier. Don’t forget to donate to dad’s legal fund.

    And use your company card if you got one.

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    Dave said he entered the company card himself to buy Robux for his son, and it then sat saved on the Google account that also carries his work email, calendar, and files. Dave did not say why he used the company card for that purchase.

    Well I don’t have much sympathy here. He used the company card to buy his son Robux. There was no reason to do this, he should have used his personal card. So maybe he thought he could skim a little money off the top for personal use and it ended up biting him in the ass.

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      I was thinking the same thing… At my job if you have a company card, you have to explain ever cent spent on it every month at a minimum. How did he not have a difficult conversation with someone when he bought fucking Robux on the company card??

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        At my company the direct manager approves the detail - although if the total looks reasonable for the assignment they don’t scrutinize individual expenses - then above that there are automated flagging checks only. If mixed in with legit expenses, and the description or vendor type or whatever didn’t trigger the automated flagging, $20 for something inappropriate would never be caught.

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      Roblox keeps the kid occupied and thus makes dad more efficient at his job. It’s a legit expense.

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      I remember my father complaining about his company card. Apparently the bank backing the card had some restriction that the maximum amount for an individual transaction could only be some percentage of the cards limit. For example purposes let’s say that’s 20%. He had to purchase stuff for $30-40K on occasion. Which means the cards limit had to be $150-200K.

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      It’s kind of the lemonade stand of our time. Get some feel for how markets work, and exercise some generally applicable skills (video editing).

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        Hell no it isn’t. I would never let my nine year old have a youtube channel.

        I kind of get what you are driving at, but the huge difference is the kid actually runs the stand, and the customers are (likely) friends and neighbors.

        Not some major profit corporation trying to use you as a product to sell ads.

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    So the goal was $20 on an ad campaign? Might as well light a $20 bill on fire. That won’t move the needle at all. Also why does a Minecraft channel of a nine year old need a advertising campaign. A nine year old has all the time in the world to learn how to make compelling content and grow organically. The goal for a nine year old shouldn’t be high subscriber/viewer count. The dad could have turned it into a teaching moment when the kid complained about low viewership instead of throwing money at it no matter how small it was supposed to be

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      I don’t think the parent prioritizes time with son, rather, $20 could pacify them for a while

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      Well, you can’t grow on YouTube without being a capitalist shill (except if you make content against that, since it isn’t a popular capitalist shill activity).

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        I’m glad you added that caveat. I realized recently that my favorite content creators are people who will never do ad reads and take no corporate money. And yes, they also make content critiquing capitalism.

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      Might as well have been a teaching moment.

      “Here’s 20 bucks, let’s run some ads and see how it impacts your channel”

      “Didn’t change much? Well, wouldn’t you rather spend that money on something else instead?”

      Part of teaching kids about the Internet is showing what ads are, the way companies use them and that there’s always a reason you’re getting shown them

      As a kid I wanted some shitty toy and my mom went “well, if that’s what you want to spend your allowance on, sure. But I think it’s probably not as good as you think”, only for me to realize that she was right after I got it

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    Seems to me that this is a dual fail. The father should have monitored his kid more closely and not used his company card for this, but Google should have noticed the unusual spending pattern and flagged it somehow—I mean, it looks like something someone might do using a stolen card, in which case Google might never have gotten its money, if you need a self-interested reason why they should have been keeping a more careful eye on this.

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      Two weeks ago, Google served me a sponsored link that led right to a malicious site trying to install malware. Not only did they not prevent this from being the top hit, they even profited off of it.

      The link looked a little dodgy in hindsight. To me. I feel like a company like Google should pick up on it. But they just don’t give af anymore.

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      You assume Google cares or held to account about your privacy and protection like any physical businesses have such as banks, shops or phone companies??

      Have you seen how little regard they give to the meet app spam situation? It is telling how little they have gotten away with care about their consumers.

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        Try to contact Google as a user.

        How easy a company is to contact is very telling.

        You can speak to someone at Google for sales within 5 minutes tho.

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      Why would a $120k spend on a business card (entered by the cardholder on an advertising account under their name) be suspicious?

      This doesn’t follow the pattern of a stolen card at all.

      EDIT: Dad set up the YT brand account using his employer’s Google Workspace. He handed all his work emails and sensitive auth to the kid too. Dad is stupid as fuck.

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        Dad is gonna lose his job and 100% blame it on his kid. Nobody that stupid would ever be capable of taking personal responsibility.

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        $120K spent advertising a kid’s Minecraft channel is suspicious. The initial flag should just have been for “card not normally used suddenly spending a shit-ton of money—does this look legit?” After that, a ten-second check of what was being advertised would have shown that something was fishy.

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          A $120K marketing budget for a single beat of a campaign would match a company with credit cards with limits that large. Usually you don’t use a credit card for marketing spending though and your Google bill is paid by a bank account. It should have been flagged but they could be using their company cc’s recklessly making this a normal transaction.

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          Eh, not necessarily. Those kidslop channels can pull in serious income, a company starting one up makes sense.

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    Google is insane about billing any random ass card you’ve ever used in any system adjacent to them. I had them bill a domain name fee to my fucking government travel card just because I’d set it up once to pay for a hotel or something. Completely not the card I’d put in to pay for the domain name - they just changed it on their own.

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      That’s not what happended here though. Dad deliberately entered his business card and handed control if it to a child…

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    Yeah that’s why I only put virtual card number with a short expiration date and a locked amount.

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    Holy shit the astroturfing in this comment section is crazy. If a 9 year old went into any other store and used a company card the store would reasonably refuse to sell 100k worth of goods. If the payment system Google implemented doesn’t even verify who is paying then that’s negligence on their part.

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      Fuck Google, but if you’re advocating for them to do identity and age verification before buying services imma have to disagree

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        You should need to prove that the card is yours, at the very least. Like, that amount of money and nobody even reviews the content being made? That somehow a child has spent over 100k? It should never have been allowed to reach this point.

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          That the CC can be used without any form of validation seems to be a problem here.

          If Google would just verify the security code or something, couldve easily claimed the user made a willing purchase in such case.

          But removing such barriers is more profitable.

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          The problem there is that the adult made the account and started the transactions and (presumably) completed all verifications required. This looks an awful lot like the parent is primarily at fault, doing just a little bit of sparkling embezzlement for his kid’s youtube career.

          Now, the shoe on the other foot, I don’t think 9 year-olds should be allowed to be “content creators”. The whole thing just feels like child labor modernized. Which ends up in a strange place when I think about child actors, because it also feels like forced child labor but everyone seems to be OK with that apparently…

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      It was the dad who entered the card number. It was his fault. He created a Google advertising profile, but his business card on it, and then handed the reins to a child.

      The biggest issue here is that dad thought he could embezzle $20 at a time, but accidentally did $120k all at once. lol. lmao even.

      Lack of constant online surveillance is a good thing, btw. Expecting Google to have caught this doesn’t make any sense.

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        The guy you’re responding to has a valid point.

        No way the son would get away with these actions at a physical store. “My dad was in here earlier, you saw him, i like to keep using his credit card tho, thanks”

        Gee, I wonder why scamming is so huge after turning the digital market in to full “end-user responsibility” and tech companies removing carefully curated practices over the centuties for profit maximization.

        Google earns billions of these scummy tactics to get users to spend as much as possible by removing any barriers of control and security. Why dont they get any of the responsibility?

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      In your comparison, the store would not see that it was a 9 year old

      It was the Google account of the dad, and he stored the company’s card in his account payment details

      And spending 100k on something is not unusual for a company card, or a big company running an ad campaign

      You should also look up what astroturfing actually is

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          sure, I agree with that.

          doesn’t change the fact that the credit card and ad service was used as intended

          If I stab myself with a knife, I don’t blame the knife manifacturer about how shit they are because I stabbed myself by user error

          It’s just a really shitty situation overall

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            I need to confirm my online purchases through my banking app. But I willingly dont connect my banking details anywhere.

            I find it weird that payment details can be stored for one-click purchases later on. It is just so highly and easily abused.

            We dont accept this kind of payment behavior at a store for obvious reasons, but online it is considered normal? I guess it maximises profits, which are important.

            And when these carefully designed systems for low barrier purchases are abused by a child, all responsibility goes to the parent?

            Wild how normalised this behavior is.

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            Didn’t really need this analogy, as it’s not as clear in this case, more like a child was able to start a run of papers on their own and cost the printer $100k running the printers for 15 minutes.

            Should they have been in the printers with access to the buttons? No

            But again it’s Google

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              Should they have been in the printers with access to the buttons? No

              agreed, the kid absolutely should not have had access to it. And Google explicitly forbids it. But the dad put the kid in front of it anyway and said “you can use it, but only up to 20 bucks” and walked away