I’ve had this one for a little over 2 years, but I suspect it wouldn’t last the average person 2 months before it outright fails and they just throw it away.
Why? Well, electronics don’t exactly like smoke of any form, whether it be nicotine, weed, wood, paper, etc. But that’s exactly what these lighters do, literally light things on fire, which of course generates smoke and dirties the electrodes, up until the point they start shorting out, if not other issues first.
I happen to be an electronics technician that knows how to safely disassemble, service and clean this thing occasionally, but its highly suggested that nobody ever try to service them, as they generate thousands of volts for the electric arc, which absolutely will burn the piss out of your fingers, if not worse.
I’m actually glad to have it, it was a cheap late Christmas gift from my mom back in January 2024, but I figure basically 99% of average consumers would end up having issues with it and throwing it away within ~2 months or less.
Sigh, e-waste…
I appreciate yyour perspective, but my experience has been better. I have used mine for 4 years now and it appears to be going strong. im not sure how many plastic disposables it has saved, but i would guess several. Lithium ion batteries are highly recyclable- if they made it so that you could swap the battery, i think it could be an improvement over disposable lighters. of course, you could say the same thing about refillable butane lighters.
I think the biggest flaw with mine in particular is that they put a chrome plated (electrically conductive) beauty cover cap over the ceramic insulator for the electrodes. ⚡🤦♂️
When everything is perfectly clean it works just fine. But over time, especially when used to light a pack of smokes a day, nicotine, tar and ash build up over the ceramic which ends up leading to electricity bleeding through the tar, shorting out to the chrome plating, leading to a short circuit, incorrect arcing, and pretty rapid failure of the electrodes.
If it had been designed without the chrome plated beauty cover cap, it would most likely last damn near forever without having to bother cleaning it all that much, but sigh, it’s piss poor engineering to put a conductive cover over high voltage arcing electrodes.
Regardless, at least I know how to safely clean and maintain it, and indeed its already saved me countless disposable lighters. But for the average person, the moment it shorts out through the chrome and into the metal shell, and literally zaps the person holding it, most people would basically say fuck that and toss it the moment they get electrocuted.
I’ve had one of these for years and it hasn’t failed. But it also isn’t exactly useful for lighting anything but a cigarette due to how the electrodes actually are placed and function. It doesn’t work very well trying to smoke weed from a pipe/bong and I am skeptical how I might use it to start a campfire even though it’s supposed to be a camping tool.
Lol, the idea what a battery powered device is a camping to for starting fires is just funny to me. Of all the ways we have to start fires one that requires a battery is the last thing I’m wasting weight and space on when camping.
Makes it a helluva lot easier to “refuel” it when you have a car and can just plug it in as opposed to a disposable BIC or a zippo. It also keeps a charge for a very long time. And it’s faster than rubbing sticks together.
Flint and steel… Matches… No battery required.
Those are also comsumable and need to be replaced when you run out of matches or wear away all the flint, which costs more money than charging a battery.
My concern isn’t money, it’s the reliability. If you store those things correctly they will always light. If you store a batter powered device correctly, no matter what it must be recharged even if it hasn’t been used. I don’t want to have to think about whether I charged my firestarter. The checklist is long enough when you are going camping. It’s just one more thing to forget.
Leave it in your car attached to a 5V1A solar panel so it neither loses charge nor explodes.
Yes, I’ll just build an entire infrastructure to support a gas station lighter that only exists because “if you’re dumb enough to buy cigarettes you’ll probably buy this gimmick.”
You know what else isn’t consumable? A credit card sized Freznel Lens magnifier, I keep one in my wallet, and they’re stupid cheap by the dozen…
Yeah, if there’s a need to start a fire, I’ll find a way… 🔥
I got a flint and magnesium fire starter as well for emergency backup, and fully know how to use it. Well, except for lighting a bong… 😂
Probably easier to use a magnifying glass to light the bong than one of those things. Hell, a friend of mine had bought a pipe with a magnifying glass attached to it that was intended to be a “solar lighter.” It worked surprisingly well, but only on a clear sunny day.
You light about a thousand fires with a bic lighter and then pull out the second one you got for 89 cents. How many times do you have to do that before you wish you brought an arc lighter instead?
When you smoke as much as Bill Hicks.
“What do you smoke? 2 packs a day? Pussy. I go through two lighters a day!”
Bleh, I got a modded almost pocket sized solar panel that’ll recharge it from empty to full within about 5 hours. And that gives me anywhere from ~20 to 30 uses or so before it needs recharge.
Sure I usually just use a wall wart USB charger, but its nice to have the backup solar panel as well.
Heh, yeah I got one of those lightsaber lighters for Christmas since the stove always has one burner that doesn’t want to light and I’m tired of fucking with the sparker. Tried a pipe once and am still regrowing my mustache.
You can use it to light kindling for a campfire
For bongs, may i recommend hemp wick
My sister uses a variation of this closer to a traditional lighter with a long neck to light her candles. It’s rechargeable, and she’s been using the same one for over a decade.
Interesting. I can only guess that candle wax vapor must not conduct electricity as much as other things like nicotine or THC… 🤷
Well, awesome for her, glad she’s getting long life use out of her device 👍
Meh, aside from cigarettes and such, they can also be useful survival equipment tools, if you got a pack of toothpicks or even just some thin dry twigs available. Easy rechargeable fire starter ya know…
But yeah, I’ve had nothing but a pain in the ass with this thing, I’ve had to disassemble it to clean it every couple weeks or so, and have also had to replace 2 electrodes and resolder the lid safety switch twice and the charger port once.
I’ve probably serviced this thing like ~40 times since I got it. You’ll know you got a problem when the lid safety switch gets too much crud in it and gets stuck in the ON position, and the damn thing starts lighting up on its own in your pocket… 💀
I modified mine to where if that should ever happen again, I can literally snatch it apart and snatch the battery out in less than 2 seconds without tools.
I am skeptical how I might use it to start a campfire even though it’s supposed to be a camping tool.
Could probably light some tinder with it, like thin twigs or dry grass…
Yes, and confirmed, it’ll easily ignite toothpicks or dry twigs with a flame.
I have personally used an electric lighter for several years primarily for starting campfires. It’s definitely less convenient than a traditional lighter but totally works and doesn’t need any lighter fluid. I don’t personally feel comfortable carrying flammable fuels in my backpack, so electric was a good choice for me
This isn’t a shower thought. You’re clearly in your car!
LMFAO!
I left the car window open through the car wash, does that count?
Are you me? I just noticed your pants have a wear rip where my pants usually have a wear rip. Also the dashboard background looks awfully familiar.
😂🤣
https://youtu.be/QXUS5ZPO9eI I found you.
It’s dangerous out there, take Whiskers Jelly with you…
Wash the car and have a bath all at once haha
What do you use it for?
Mostly cigarettes, around a pack a day. Sometimes a weed joint.
Yes, bad habits, I know…
But, and hear me out here, it’s also wicked cool.
Ours is more stick-shaped though, and really only good for candle wicks. If we smoked, you might be able to get a cigarette into the arc. It’d probably also work well if your grill’s or gas stove’s spark iginter was broken.
Pretty close, had one for a brief while, mostly used for incense till something got screwy and apparently connected the electrode to the casing to zap the hell out of me.
EXACTLY!
Some folks have better, longer lasting luck out of these things, others don’t, but yeah you totally get that these things can (and often will) eventually short out, one way or another.
I happen to have enough electronics knowledge and experience to keep mine properly cleaned and maintained, but I don’t think that 99% of people would even be able to do that, at least not safely…
My mom got a 4-pack of some of these that look kinda like long kitchen lighters. She gave me one, and I’ve used it a few times for lighting my bowls when I smoke, but you can’t beat an actual flame. The arc on those things isn’t big enough so you have to put it right on there. We still have them, but we use them for candles.
That’s cool.
According to some other comments here, others tell me those sort of long electric arc lighters tend to last a lot longer, when used for lighting candles or gas stoves or such.
But using arc lighters for cigarettes or weed, it’ll likely start acting up within a couple months or less…
At least I know how to service mine, but that’s not for the inexperienced or the faint of heart.
I just kinda wipe off the prongs if it’s gross. I’m sure that’s probably making something worse though.
Very useful in a bind. They’re waterproof and provide a source of fire. I’ll have mine forever.
The ones I’ve seen are sold as camping or survival gear rather than for general use.
Yours is waterproof? Damn homie, what model you got?
Also, notice that on mine at least, the plastic cover over the ceramic electrode insulator is chrome plated, which looks nice and pretty when new. But after a while, smoke particlr buildup around the electrodes, plus the chrome plated beauty cover, starts causing the electrodes to short out.
Also, at one point mine had an issue where the lid safety switch apparently got too contaminated with nicotine and got stuck in the ON position, requiring emergency maintenance service as the damn thing wouldn’t even turn off… 💀
This one. It’s vulcanised rubber and has a lock on the side. Got as a gift a few years back. Never used to light a joint. I have a mini blowtorch for that.
Nice 👍
And indeed that looks much better designed and built than mine. But hey, you can’t really complain much either way when it was a gift…
Mine was a gift as well, but I’m not complaining, moreso just sharing my observations and situations over the past 2 years.
Assuming you have access to a power outlet but not a 7-11?
I’m just as likely to notice an electric lighter is out of juice as a Bic.
Kapton tape is a good high Voltage insulator that is also cheap and available.
And I have 3 rolls of the stuff, 1cm wide, partly used to fix it. Honestly I’ve used more heatshrink (ThermalFit) and solder than Kapton tape, but yeah…
Yeah, but when it comes to voltage breakdown, kapton is the way to go as long as it’s not part of a wearable fabric of some sort that needs to have tension and shear.
I found that micro heatshrink/thermalfit works best over the solder splices for the replaced electrodes. I made sure to stagger the splices as well, to avoid any further internal arcing.
I’ve been using my cheap $5 electric candle lighter for like 5 years now. It’s saved probably 10 butane candle lighters from the trash.
The butane ones are refillable though
Except for the ones that aren’t.
I’ve never seen one that isn’t, that just sounds depressing.
Yay Dollar Tree! … ☹️
Yeah though, even the refillable ones have their faults. The clicker spark button igniter thing tends to end up breaking all on its own within around ~10 refill cycles, at least in my experience.
I’m all about renewable and reusable tech, and I’m actually happy to have this lighter as long as I can keep it lasting, but sadly nothing lasts forever…
I love my little electric lighter, I consider it a clean upgrade. But for about ten years I’ve had the same metal clipper lighter (butane, refillable) and just replaced the flint again so it feels fresh.
Flint is actually more reliable in the long run than those electric clicker things, so yeah that’s awesome actually 👍
Besides the problems outlined, the sound these things make drive me nuts. Although, I was wondering if it was possible to somehow modulate the frequency so when sou light a cig it plays a tune.
Yes, actually this has been done before, modulating the frequency to play music and such.
My internet absolutely sucks when I’m on road trips, but I’ll see if I can find you a link later after I get home and settled down.
I think the video clip from YouTube I saw was from TheActionLab…
But that’s exactly what these lighters do, literally light things on fire, which of course generates smoke and dirties the electrodes, up until the point they start shorting out, if not other issues first.
Do people not clean them? My cheapo Chinese one has lasted 5 years and all I’ve done is wipe with with a paper towel every now and then.
The instructions for these things literally say to not ever clean them. Well, I’m not exactly one to follow all instructions.
I end up fully disassembling mine every couple or few weeks, to thoroughly clean the ceramic insulator and electrodes with rubbing alcohol, cotton swabs, and even a toothbrush.
Note: Remove the ceramic insulator from the device before attempting to clean it this way, as practically everyone should know already, rubbing alcohol is flammable…
Better yet, just have an experienced electronics tech do it for you if you’re not 100% sure how to fully clean it yourself.
I tried one and I could not deal with it because it created a high pitched buzz which only me and cats seemed to be able to hear. Glad to know I am not the only one to dislike them.
Oh, I definitely hear that sound too, I’m pretty sure many people do. It doesn’t bother me though, its only like 3 to 5 seconds, not like the sound is on repeat.
Now as far as your cats… 😺
How does it not make you want to drop it when screams at you like that?
I am made of stronger stuff than the unpleasant wine my 10 gram plastic lighter makes
It’s not even loud yo. Are your ears okay?
I’m no medical expert, but I’ve had hypersensitive hearing before.
You might wanna check in with an ENT (Ear, Nose, Throat) doctor if you can…
You might actually be on to something. My one side of the family has sensitive hearing and I do hear pretty well up to 18±0.5kHz. Aside from loud places it’s rarely an issue though.
I’m going add another anecdote to the rest. I have one of the long versions that we use for lighting candles. We’ve had it for seven years. Still works great.
Edit: I checked and it’s actually been nine years since we bought it.
That’s awesome! 👍
Going by other comments here, apparently candle wax vapor/deposits aren’t nearly as electrically conductive as nicotine/tar/ash buildup, so basically everyone saying they use theirs to light candles has indeed reported these sort of lighters for many years with no problems.
Things get a lot dirtier a lot quicker and end up eventually shorting out when used to light a pack of cigarettes a day. Yeah, bad habit I know, but at least I know how to clean and maintain mine when it starts acting up.
Thousands of volts? Really?
Yes, really. Pretty much any time you can visibly see an arc through the air it’s in the thousands of volts range. If you walk around in socks and zap something and you can feel a shock from your fingertips it’s probably 2-3 kV at least, can be up to 15+ kV, but very low current
Please ignore user village604, they clearly don’t know what they’re talking about when they said electric arc lighters are supposedly harmless.
They are most certainly not harmless, in fact they’re as dangerous, if not more, than a regular lighter.
Plus, the second it hits your skin the voltage drops to basically zero because skin has a high electrical resistivity and the device can’t pump out enough amps to do any real harm.
Bruh, these lighters are quite literally designed for the sole purpose of igniting fires, you think your skin is somehow immune to this? Go ahead and zap yourself once, for even a split second with one of these things, and you’ll instantly get 4 dead burnt spots on your finger.
If you care to test longer, these lighters arc around 1000 times a second, at thousands of volts. And they arc for up to around 7 seconds before automatically shutting off. So if you wanna lose your fingerprint, or perhaps even half your finger, then go ahead and try lighting your finger up like a cigarette, you’ll find out just how flammable human flesh can be when electrocuted.
So, with all due respect, please for the love of fucking God do not ever again try to tell anyone that something is safe when you clearly don’t know a fucking thing about it.
I ought to report you, but I won’t. I expect you to edit your comment and apologize for telling people that electronic arc lighters are supposedly harmless.
THEY ARE NOT HARMLESS, ELECTRIC ARC LIGHTERS CAN AND WILL ELECTROCUTE YOU IN AN INSTANT AND BURN YOUR FLESH TO LITERAL DEATH!!!
