Context: Admiral Patrick replied and included this gem:

And might I add that not one person complained until db0 went internet Karen with his hissy fit because I took his toy away from him.

“Not one person complained about my explicitly obfuscated blacklists! Damn internet Karens making a big deal!”

  • abc@suppo.fi
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    Seems like this Admiral Patrick guy is genuinely trying to make Lemmyverse a reasonable place to be in. I like it.

    How do I support him?

    • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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      I suppose you can use the tesseract front end and join his instance. I like well moderated spaces but I don’t appreciate lying to people about it and hiding what’s on the blacklist behind lies about compatibility errors. Can’t trust a guy like that.

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      If you want a nice polite little internet forum where no one talks politics and anyone who expresses a hostile opinion are suppressed why are you here instead of on reddit?

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      He has a special club. To join, you have to find a pair of dirty boots, then lick them clean.

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    Instances should detect when tesseract is the client and return nothing but a fake post explaining why it sucks.

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      My guy is straight up delusional. He really ought to touch grass and come back next year when most people will have forgotten him

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      Tells me they’re only cool with the trans folks who shut the fuck up and don’t make him feel any cognitive dissonance over his political fee-fees. Poor wittle baby.

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    This has been hands-down some of the best drama I’ve seen on the Fediverse. I assume there’s some sick part of my brain that just loves it when someone doubles down on a bad decision.

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    Oh that’s a top tier temper tantrum trying to justify themselves. They got caught and they’re real mad about it.

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        They tried to hide it by putting it in a non-plaintext format downloaded at runtime, the actual list isn’t in the source code.

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          Yeah, but … they didn’t think anybody would read the source, see it calling to download that file, and wonder ‘what’s that file for?’

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    Making a blacklist for your frontend is one thing.

    Not telling users about it is an entirely different, more fucked up thing.

    Purposefully disguising block as technical difficulties instead of deliberate blocks is yet another level of different and more fucked up.


    A blacklist that users are informed of and therefore (presumably) consent to when using the software, I could understand. I still don’t entirely agree with it, but I understand.

    But each of the additional levels of fucked-up-ness turn it from understandable to despicable. Absolutely fuck that dev in every which way.

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        Do you really run into that many fascists on Lemmy? (As long as you’re not counting tankies as fascist, I guess. Which they’re technically not quite.)

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      Yeah, but seeing myself on line 1208 of the super-secret banned list made me feel far more dangerous and badass than I deserve. I feel like I’m barely a decent person, but I’m still working on it; apparently, that makes me a radical.

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      And the statement that it wasn’t encrypted, just compressed, is an entirely antagonistic reframing.

      There were multiple block lists. Some right in the open, and one that was stored as a monolithic .dat (I assume the one he called “compressed”).

      The end result is that the second list was obfuscated from not only end-users, but also “admins” hosting it, and developers attempting to work on the project.

      The compression decision only holds if all of the filter lists were compressed and this decision was clearly documented.


      Plus the circumstantial evidence that the “enable toxic mode” option did not in fact disable the filtering that relied on the .dat file.


      I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies. But this is not the way to implement it, and it’s not the way to react when called out about it.

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        I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies.

        If you want something approachable for normies, Facebook is right there.

        IMO, the fediverse should be weird and stay weird. It doesn’t need to grow huge, it doesn’t need to become a normie website or a household name.

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          I’m more than OK with weird. I love weird. I’m even ok with strong political opinions that I don’t always agree with. I’m fine with Lemmy staying small in the hopes it never ends up becoming an eternal September situation.

          Those aren’t the issue.The problem is the violent rhetoric combined with the intense and constant bad-jacketing. Constant jumping to bad conclusions about other users and arguing against those straw men instead of trying for good faith.

          At least you only jumped to the conclusion that I wanted Lemmy to stop being weird and grow unsustainably popular. I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.

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            I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.

            Well, I don’t want you to feel disappointed, so here goes: you’re a person who likes money and you’re just upset that my virtue signalling is of higher fidelity! You should go get a coin and put it on your shoulder, so you get alarmed by the sudden clattering when you forget it’s there and it hits the floor!

            Is that enough vitriol for you?

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    That post max crash out. Homie included a way to turn it off like a company hiding the cancel subscription options and expected everyone to love it. Like bro if you want to filter everything out thats what your block list is for. Also, he plainly did not mention why it was obfuscated to such a degree and acted like it showed you everything.

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        I finally found myself but I honestly feel like this is a list of frequent users more than anything.

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          It does raise the question of what’s left once you’re done scouring out all the shit you don’t like.

          I occasionally visit in incognito to see what I’m missing. And I’ll admit… mostly bad memes and reactionary hot takes. But I’m blocking maybe a dozen channels and twenty odd users. This block list goes into the 3k range.

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            In my experience, once you get rid of all the people who are willing to voice a unique opinion, the people who are left are the ones make superficial one-liner puns. One of the great things about Lemmy is it’s usually a discussion, not just an upvote race like Reddit is.

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            yeah, when i started using lemmy i started blocking every chungus i disagreed with. then i realized i’m a pretty big chungus myself on a bad day, and there’s like a hundred of us who use this regularly. if i block someone who’s just having a bad day that’s diminishes the experience here, but if i block someone who’s always having a bad day (i’m not naming names, but there are a few) it improves the experience.

            i think i might have fifty users total blocked (mostly bots and trolls i hope), and i’ve added maybe ten in the last year. 3k is just stupid.

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    “Enable Toxic Mode”… lmfao!

    My discussions since joining Lemmy & dbzer0 specifically are so much higher quality than when I used Reddit. People aren’t calling each other stupid, and real discussions seem to be had from both sides of different topics. Maybe the instance I’m in is just well-moderated but I can’t see how this community could be considered toxic or put on a blacklist by anyone other than those who are ignorant and judge books by their covers.

    Some scary words for Patrick (cover your eyes): Anarchy! Transgender! Leftist! LGBT! Equality!

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      People aren’t calling each other stupid

      Uhh, what? Did you even read the comments on this very post?

      Consider the possibility that you’re in a bubble made out of titanium when you’re here.

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        That’s crazy, one random comment out of a hundred?

        What kind of moron do you have to be ah wait you got me now it’s one out of fifty!

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      You might have missed the troubles, a period when squid was still active and being anti Zionist could and would get you banned across whole instances where pointing out that Joe Biden was clearly losing in their race to be president would result in a several week ban for some of the most important and critical members of the community. The petty authoritarianism really can’t be dismissed, and it’s probably the most important issue facing the project currently.

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      I call people on reddit stupid all the time, but that’s because there are genuinely a lot of stupid people on reddit who appear to be ignorant of their predicament. Unfortunately I only have so much time in a day so the vast majority of stupid redditors carry on blissfully unaware.

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