wait, they’re still going with this?
Kind of expected this.
Changed computer for others reason ( needed more power for some games) . I don’t hate win 11, it does the job.
But, expecting people to throw away computers that matched their need just to upgrade an OS? Nah!
More people are moving to Linux and are never using Windows in future.
They gatekeep windows 11 from older devices, what did they think would happen? I tried Linux on my thinkpad yoga, and the drivers are so shit i had to switch back to windows on it, and no, I’m not throwing away a perfectly good laptop!
I’ve had this happen on a thinkpad yoga before. Honestly just keep windows on it and run an antivirus because you’ll definitely not be receiving updates for windows defender anytime soon as that is tied to windows update.
You could also be like me though eventually and hack the bios to not be absolute trash and get Linux working on it anyway.
My Yoga 370 runs great with Fedora KDE
Out of curiosity, what Linux did you try on it? Relatively new and you tried Mint maybe?
I ran mint on an hm110 with an old as balls nvidia and the only bug i had was tracking down the 330 drivers so i could shut the godddamn fan up. (And then had to compile a Kodi build from source yay thanks muppets)
Linux isn’t as transparent as windows when it comes to legacy drivers, it’s always been an issue
Not to sell your experience short, that sucks, but that’s on Nvidia for being the worst company in the world for driver support.
Yup, two prongs on the same fork.
Fedora
And is the laptop quite new I wonder?
X1 yoga 3rd gen, so around 2018ish. The stylus and thunderbolt are broken. And the mouse lags. I already wasted a lot of time troubleshooting it. I’ll try again in a few years, maybe it’ll be fixed.
Well I’ll be. Didn’t know the Yoga line had abnormal hardware for things like trackpads/etc, as Thinkpads in general are considered to be so good for Linux. If you should tinker in the future maybe try something with a much more modern kernel 7+ like CachyOS. Either way nice chatting have a good one.
I seem to recall two years was the plan all along. I don’t seem to recall the second year being free, though, which it was for me.
If hardware were cheap it might have gone a little better. Like I would love to build a new beast gaming rig (dual boot Linux and W11) but component prices are stupid and my W10 rig is perfectly fine.
Jokes on them, if you have a shitty enough computer that’s doesn’t meet the minimum requirements, you get to stay on Windows 10 forever!
I am a convenience oriented PC gamer who doesn’t enjoy fiddling with the command line. What’s the Linux distro for me?
I would say try Manjaro with the KDE desktop. It’s based on Arch so it will update indefinitely, it’s one of the few distros out there that has system recovery snapshots enabled by default, and it was designed to work best the less you tinker with it (it really wants you to leave it alone so it can manage things for you).
I’ve been using Bazzite on an HTPC that also does some light gaming for a couple of months, and I like it. I’m still on W10 on my main gaming rig, though. (not because of any specific deficiency with Bazzite, just have a couple of games I play that have anticheat issues under Linux)
Competitive shooters from mega-corporate publishers are generally the only ones who have a cow if they can’t rootkit anti-cheat your rig.
So whether you’re against oligarchs or against setting up a backdoor into your PC, you shouldn’t be playing those titles anyway.
Well, I do like Destiny :(
I’m seeing this is a hard no for Linux. Seems dumb since they support cross play on multiple other platforms. Is Linux just too open for them to feel like they can handle anti-cheat?
Others have mentioned Bazzite and Mint. I have used both. Bazzite is gaming focused, but, in my opinion, slightly harder to administrate due to the whole immutable/atomic thing. I went over to a buddy’s recently who is running Mint. It’s been a few years since I used Mint, but it was a great all around Linux system, doesn’t have any of the Bazzite weirdness, and it was exciting to see it used by someone out in the wild (not in my own home).
If you weren’t a gamer, I would almost certainly recommend Mint. In your case, I would say try them both out, break them, push them to the limit and throw weird scenarios at them, maybe shut the computer down incorrectly a few times. See if you feel more comfortable with one or the other, then do a reinstall of the one you liked best after breaking them both. It is more work up front, but it’s worth knowing you can maintain your system when it very occasionally breaks or has an issue. Above all, make sure you take regular backups. That way you can mess with stuff and not worry about whether or not you’ll break something.
I would only recommend not starting with Ubuntu, there is a cultural idea that it’s the easiest, but it really isn’t, and has some very unique “features” that aren’t for everyone.
The bigger question is not what distro to get, but what desktop environment to chose, because that will be your interface and that’s where the first point of tension will come from. I highly recommend KDE.
Other than that, every modern distro will be basically the same, you install steam and it just works.As another commentor said, Bazzite is a good bet. It’s an atomic OS based on fedora silverblue, so it’s very difficult to accidentally fuck up your system, and if anything does go wrong you are able to revert to the previous bootable state.
It also supports the popular patent-encumbered video codecs, as well as Nvidia drivers (with the Nvidia edition), out of the box.
You shouldn’t need to mess with the command line at all. It’s set up for (non-game) software distribution via Flathub, so you are unlikely to run into software compatibility issues and you don’t need to use a command line software package manager.
It does come with basically all the popular Linux gaming software already installed, which is a pro or con depending on your preference.
I reccommend the GNOME version, not KDE, for the smoothest and most straightforward/convenient user experience. (don’t come for me)
Thanks - I think I read once about “immutable” distros… is this the same as what you mentioned about being able to revert to previous bootable state?
There is probably loads, I use mint. Installing stuff can be a lot becuase there are different methods and results. There might be a bit of terminal work there but when you look for software look for ones with a gui so you can skip the terminal when using them.
Onve you get your head around installing, you will be absolutely fine, it is just that hurdle for me on mint. After that, like a less shit windows.
Bazzite. Game ready right after OS installs.
I personally recommend Fedora KDE. It’s polished and set up reasonably for the average person so you should never need to even open the terminal (you might need to fiddle with some stuff like enabling flatpacks but thats all sone in a GUI application), and it’s reasonably up to date withour shipping broken packages.
As a non-expert, I switched to Linux Mint and have had zero issues. If you have any questions let me know.
Maybe if they had done that to begin with I wouldn’t have nuked the SSD and dropped Linux on it?
After the 3rd or so warning about EoL and not being “allowed” to install windows 11, I went back to Debian. I’m not going through the trouble of switching again any time soon.
Yeah, once I was gone it’s over, I did Linux before when the whole Windows ME mess. I went back with 7, when it actually worked again, but them doing worse with 11 than they did with ME and then 8 is a “Three Strikes” rule on them.
I don’t think there is any way to convince me to every use their crap again, especially not as it’s all flippin’ cloud subscription SAS scamware slopified surveillence tech now.
The have done this every window release.
I’m still on windows 7.
It’s horrendously insecure. It can be hacked sliently by a hacker sending a crafted IPv6 packet to it (CVE-2024-38063). You should try Mint on it.
I only moved off 7 about 18 months ago. Check out W10 LTSC IoT It’s much nicer than regular W10 and it’s supported until 2032
I keep hearing about this, but I’m certain there must be some drawback
It’s Windows. It’s all drawback.
Very nice! I need Windows unfortunately for software, but when I get a new machine for professional stuff, my old one defs goes Mint:) Just needed more buffer time to save money!
Too late. I’ve already switched to Linux Mint and am never going back.
Same, almost a year and couldn’t be happier.
I’m just sitting here patiently waiting for the end of the world staring at these corporations, Microsoft and Meta especially, just make company ending mistake after company ending mistake, for over a decade now. I really don’t believe companies able to absorb that kind of incompetence should exist.
Unfortunately until they are no longer “vital infrastructure” to governments, they will just get bailed out. I guess the best we can hope for is they disappear into obscurity as just another corporate software package that could easily be replaced by a spreadsheet.
Vista 2: Electric Boogaloo
ME 3: The Crappening
LOL!! I like it.
