• E_coli42@lemmy.world
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        Source? I didn’t see gun rights being taken away anywhere in the US. If every protestor was armed with an assault rifle, I doubt ICE would have the balls to kill anyone else in broad daylight

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          The fact that didn’t happen after someone died for upholding their 2nd amendment rights is my source. You clearly don’t have the right to bear arms Here’s my source:

          “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

          Point to where that happened

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            I said if EVERY protestor was armed with an assault rifle. Search up black panther armed protests for examples of where this worked.

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      But you can feel some sort of satisfaction as you count them off just before they execute you.

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      Sounds like an excellent opportunity to sue them into the ground. A federal officer illegal disregarding your constitutional rights is a payday most can only dream of.

      So chill out and lawyer up.

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            Actually no, qualified immunity shields them personally. A tortured precedent, if the exact situation has not happened and been sued on it gets thrown out, or some ridiculous thing like that.

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              Qualified immunity can be stripped. It’s not absolute. Constitutional violations are absolutely grounds for losing qualified immunity.

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                In theory or what? Last I heard they were virtually immune. Courts are getting worse, not better too, and judges decide.

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                  Judges are appointed for life; there’s really no reason why they would match lock step with Trumps orders. Yes they’re conservative (not all of them), but I don’t believe they’re going to break the law or compromise their integrity for Trump.

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        The courts are fucked, we cannot sue our way out of this. Scotus will cancel it with any success, if appeals did not first.

        They already barred nationwide injunctions. The admin could round up citizens to concentration camps and no judge can now say stop. You can try to sue individually as if irreperable harm would not have haapened by then if you could even get it into court.

        Seriously that was a big deal and media did not realize it. Or tell us if they did. Scotus is nazi.

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        Its almost impossible (especially with this administration) to sue the federal government and win. They have to agree to allow you to sue them before things can even get started.

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    More realistic headline: “Here’s a list of things your family can sue the government for after you’re dead, once their GoFundMe goals are met”.

    The only rights you have with ICE are made of lead.

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      Gofundme for victims will be shut down at the government’s word. They are one of the worst in that regard I hear.

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    You have these rights on paper. In fact you have no rights. It’s obey or die.

    You voted for this, America. But hey. Kamala wasn’t a True Socialist, amirite?

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      Yeah, blame the lefties for not stopping the righties instead of, you know, the righties.

      I mean seriously you think that the people who didn’t vote for Kamala were such a large portion of the population they outnumber maga? That’s wildly optimistic.

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        You think recognizing that they don’t care about your rights is the same as “not resisting”?

        The problem is that people don’t recognize that their rights don’t matter anymore.

        Alex Pretti exercised his 2nd amendment right and never broke the law, yet he was executed in broad daylight. It’s time to recognize that your rights no longer protect you (just like they rarely ever protected minorites) and fucking revolt already.

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          I read it like that comment have been directed at the article, implying ‘know your rights’ to be ‘…and do not resist’

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    Title should be changed to “ysk what legal rights will be violated in encounters with ice”

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    At this point assume none, including a right to live. It’s good to know in any case.

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    This is all good information. DHS doesn’t care about constitutional protections. They enter homes with administrative warrants. They can detain anyone, anytime, anywhere.

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        I’m just waiting to hear that news. President Miller wants that to happen. He’s setting up all the pieces so it happens as soon as possible.

        Stephen Miller is such a little bitch he couldn’t even deal with his neighbors in Arlington, VA writing chalk messages on the sidewalk next to his house, so he had to pack up and run away to a military base. What kind of little bitch boy does that? I hope he takes care of himself in the same way that his Nazi heroes did.

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        If you make it out alive, they would almost certainly send you to ADX Florence (or equivalent). Rights and protections are no longer inalienable, if you are part of the fascist regime. Taking a stand, saying “no more!”, is what we should all do. I’m terrified of the prospect of prison. However, at the current rate of escalation, we might all soon face a similar dilemma.

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    know your rights! All three of them!

    You have the right not to be killed

    Murder is a crime!

    Unless it was done by a police man…

    The clash from 1982 still timely

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    You have rights this is america *

    • Rights should be exercised at your own risk… Courts may change their rulings on them at any time, and not even the best lawyer on earth can revive after you’ve been shot in the head.