this is just… misinformation. At best, a loosely carried out statistics experiment.
really i wonder why
little frankie armistein is topself
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forbidden_fruit_is_the_sweetest
Proverb
forbidden fruit is the sweetest
- Forbidden things seem more appealing; people desire things more if (or, in some way, because) they can’t have them.
Also curiousity due to lack of sexual education.
They can’t get off if it’s mainstream, they need their fetishes to be taboo, and preferably illegal. So, they make it illegal, then rub themselves raw over it.
This is, upsettingly, probably true for a significant portion of them.
Huh, and here I thought we didn’t like any of the same things.
You see the performers as people. They see the performers as fuckmeat. You are not the same.
Very good point. I also see now that this is only focused on search terms for MtF folk. I’m an equal opportunity gooner, I enjoy some fine-ass FtM peeps in porn too. I have a feeling they don’t.
Republicans don’t believe that FtM people exist. In their minds, they’re just delusional women who wish they were men, but it makes perfect sense to them that women wish they were men. It would be weirder to them to hear that not all women wish they were men. It’s completely part of the sexism and patriarchy.
The reason that they’re so obsessed with trans women by comparison is that it goes against their entire worldview. A man who wants to be a woman? Why would anyone ever want to be a woman?! There’s also the bigotry and everything else, of course, but the fact that it defies what they see as the natural order or hierarchy of the sexes drives them crazy.
I mean we’ve seen Alex Jones with a “Naughty tbabe” tab open on his phone.
Thats hilarious, so so on-brand
the article does have this headline but doesn’t actually back it up (convincingly) at all. it seems to thinks googling ‘“shemale”, “tranny”, “femboy”, and “ladyboy”’’ counts as searching for trans porn. kelsey libert doesn’t seem to have any relevant qualifications either
Also, who uses google to search for porn? This research appears to be making a LOT of assumptions about what their data actually represents.
I have a better argument here than they do that based on the number of comments here progressives only look for the facts they want to hear without reading the actual articles /j
Hell ya! I was worried I was a republican their for a second ( /s ) luckily those are not the terms I use to search for trans porn but like I also show trans people and people regardless of gender respect.
Side note, I get the other terms coming from right wing ignorant assholes but feel femboy is not that bad, am I wrong on this? I have not yet read the article.
We’ve heard lots of people referring to themselves as femboys. So probably not that bad.
But a femboy (in the context we’re used to) isn’t a trans woman, it’s a boy with feminine qualities, I think (while still being male).
– Frost
I don’t give a damn what kind of porn people watch. I do care that this colors their perspective on how trans people actually live. Most of us aren’t sex workers. And most of us that are don’t do it by choice. We’re just people trying to live our lives. This kind of thinking is incredibly dangerous, as it leads to believing that someone just being themselves in public is an act of sexual exhibitionism. I didn’t transition as a sex thing. My life is not a costume. I transitioned and have lived my entire adult life as myself, worked my entire career and built my entire life around my transitioned name and gender. Rather than a 24/7 drag act, most days I’m wearing jeans and hoodie.
We’re just trying to live our lives in peace. But a bunch of perverts are using their porn habits to inform their moral judgments about an entire class of people.
What? What the hell does transporn have to do with, 1. Your personal identity and 2. How everyone else perceives trans people? Porn is fantasy not real life.
Man, you can’t just ignore how porn molds the way people see others and what they expect of them, be it men, women or trans people
I mean ya… But this can be said about anything at all. How about the 24 hour news cycle… Just constant news all the time screaming in your face. Or flat Earth videos on YouTube… Millions of people believe the earth is flat. Or maga propaganda permeating literally everything nowadays.
We’re humans and can be easily influenced.
Furthermore I don’t see a mechanism that would support what’s being said under the original comment here that would be present in porn to support what you’re saying in context.
Millions of people might be watching a video, that doesn’t mean that millions believe it.
… How can you both understand and not understand at the same time? Are you american?
To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.
If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to the existence of trans people, they’d oversexualize the idea of trans, which in turn leads them to blame/despise the trans even more (because of both their conservative views and unhealthy relationship with sex), not even leaving trans people the space to be something else in their eyes than objects to jerk off to (aka “people”).
What does being American have to do with anything?
Provide a source to support what is clearly a biased opinion.
What you’re describing, objectification, is a downstream effect, not a cause. A person would already have to hold anti-trans views to behave the way you’re describing. The bias exists prior to the porn consumption, or that bias may even influence the type of content they seek out.
Roughly 7 out of 10 people in America watch porn at least occasionally. That represents a majority of the population. More than half the country is not anti-trans, which directly undermines your claim about “the perception of trans people.”
- it has everything to do with anything.
- Litterally, the trans person who you answered to, only to undermine them.
- Yes : “thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.”
- “If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to” i am not generalizing, I’m taking about the precise people who’ll both hate trans people in public yet will happily jerk off to trans porn.
Once again, you choose not to understand what is right in front of your eyes, so you’re either:
1)Straight american brainrotten male, 2)autistic and need precise scientific references to believe something (too bad your president has forbidden it). 3) Conservative and incapable of good faith.
To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.
You are making a very specific claim, so support it. Otherwise you’re just talking out of your ass, which you objectively are.
It is beyond obvious that you have a very strong bias against whatever you believe America is, and you are using the exact same tactic a MAGA conservative uses to support their ideology, which makes you no better. You even brought up autism, which is offensive and completely out of context.
Now, with that said, do you have any way to refute my claim that objectification is a downstream effect of MAGA indoctrination?
The person you are interacting with is trying to browbeat you because they don’t like what you are saying because they have some weird anti-porn beliefs, which frankly, a lot of people do. They themselves are falling trap to the ‘porn corrupts’ anti-sex narrative, while seemingly being critical of anti-sex narratives. I see this all the time.
And they are mad you are suggesting that all media corrupts, and porn isn’t some super special deeply influential thing compared to any other media consumption. You evil porn-normalizer!
The guy is clearly a troll who has no idea what he’s talking about. I went at it with him for a few more exchanges and had to block him. He was more stupid than your average idiot.
Yeah, got it from the “I’m suffering, for x, y and z reasons.” “No you’re not, prove it” vibe.
I don’t know, I’m very sex-positive and I enjoy porn. Sometimes I even learn new things I like from it. I don’t think for a minute that it’s real and I would not apply it to vanilla people (my more kinky friends however yes if I know they’re into something).
I don’t really think my stepsister will get stuck in the washing machine. Does it form sexual behaviour and practices? Probably yes. I’m sure a lot of people try squirting now, which was popularised in porn. Is that bad? No, I don’t think so at all. Why would it be? Sex knows fashions just like other human behaviour.
It’s not about people thinking whether it’s fiction or not, it’s about whether porn is the only way these people will be confronted to something they don’t know and have biases against and, yes, porn is fiction, but you’re presuming that everybody has a sane approach to fiction. Have you not been in a post-truth regime enough, yet?
The really crazy one is oral sex. It’s become so accepted and ubiquitous that if you don’t like it, you’re the weird one. But if you stop to think about it, it’s clearly a kink.
Yes I know that oral was not practiced a lot in the past within marriages in particular (though during the war in brothels I’m sure it was). But why do you think it’s particularly kinky?
I agree in terms of deep throating, that’s a bit of a kink and I personally don’t like doing it (even as the one being deep throated). That was popularized by its namesake movie I think.
But normal oral how is that so kinky? I personally love it, it’s a lot more gentle than regular sex. And it tastes so good 🤭 I even love doing that for hours (both ways) and skipping the penetration part altogether. 😋 But oral kinda feels like it’s meant to be done.
It’s not really a modern thing as such either. The kama sutra features a ton of it, including gay and lesbian versions.
You’re kinda proving my point. The reason why you don’t see it as kinky is because it’s so common. If it wasn’t common and normalized, people would see it as a kink. I’m kink-positive; I don’t have a problem with that. What I find interesting is how accepted and ubiquitous this one kink has become, and I think we have porn to thank for that.
It’s not really a modern thing as such either. The kama sutra features a ton of it, including gay and lesbian versions.
Well, that isn’t really surprising. I think you would have a really hard… er, difficult time finding a new kink. People have been horny for as long as there have been people, and every imaginable configuration has been tried out thousands of years ago. Except for vibrators or any of the other modern sex toys? Because those didn’t exist before.
Project 2025 literally has as one of its planks the idea that simply living life as a trans person is a pornographic act. This belief comes from men who see being trans and being pornographic as one and the same. Where do you think that belief comes from?
Not from transporn. That’s for sure. These assholes watching transporn is a symptom of what makes people believe in maga, nationalism and project 2025 in the first place. The porn comes after the indoctrination.
Hold on… Hold on. I know. But think about it. If you’re some bloke pulling your pud to transporn and liking it you’re not going to all of the sudden become a conservative.
But if you’re a maga asshole conservative and you’re being bombarded by anti trans bullshit and go on the internet, you know… Just to take a look to see what the fuss is all about… Then all of the sudden dang that’s hot where’s the jergens.
🤷
This ties into a bigger issue where almost nothing related to sexuality can ever be healthy or normal to many conservatives.
Sex to these conservatives is inherently deviant and filthy. Making conscious life decisions related to sexuality or sexual identity will never be just a life decision. It will be equivalent to actively engaging in sexual acts.
Being trans to them is actively paedophilic because it exposes children to the concept of sexuality and gender. Sex ed will be paedophilic to them because it does the same. Each person’s actions are not the sole thing that defines them, but also their position in society as dictated by “what it has always been”. Men have always led households by marrying women and having kids, therefore men that don’t are a threat.
Conservatism is quite black or white when it comes to things like identity or introspection. It is an ideology that very frequently wages war on self questioning and exploration in exchange for compliance and conformism. It’s why many conservatives hate universities, scientists and partially why they hate immigrants. The entire ideology grows by appealing to people who do not want to be intellectually challenged. It’s especially attractive to those that don’t want to understand other ways of thinking.
Conservatism as an ideology always exploits the greatest potential weakness of the left wing: naivety, and presents itself as the “responsible” or “reasonable” solution to a reckless and harmful left wing. They frame things like empathy and humanitarianism as weaknesses rather than virtues.
It’s why most of the conservative rhetoric revolves around “being taken advantage of” or “being scammed by” this or that group. They love stories about immigrants exploiting the system, cheating or stealing because it proves their worldview that what’s foreign and unknown is out to get them. It is an ideology driven by fear.
And the biggest problem is that, unlike progressivism (which also has its ideological vices and weaknesses), conservatism never seeks to help the weak or empower the vulnerable. Instead it seeks to maintain the hierarchy and keep people in their place. In the US that translates to keeping immigrants weak, keeping black people down, keeping women in the kitchen, keeping white men ahead, keeping the US as an imperial power, and keeping its allies subservient.
Being trans to them is actively paedophilic because it exposes children to the concept of sexuality and gender. Sex ed will be paedophilic to them because it does the same. Each person’s actions are not the sole thing that defines them, but also their position in society as dictated by “what it has always been”. Men have always led households by marrying women and having kids, therefore men that don’t are a threat.
Our own minds will expose us to sexuality way before the age of 18 though. This is why it’s so important to have sex ed. So that kids with feelings won’t go messing around (together!) and not knowing what’s what. In Holland we’ve always had that pretty early so teenage pregnancies were super low but lately the conservative forces have also taken hold there. It’s blowing over on social media. So now a lot of parents are up in arms over it especially in the mostly religious regions.
It’s why most of the conservative rhetoric revolves around “being taken advantage of” or “being scammed by” this or that group. They love stories about immigrants exploiting the system, cheating or stealing because it proves their worldview that what’s foreign and unknown is out to get them. It is an ideology driven by fear.
Yes but it somehow seems to resonate more than it should. I wonder if some people have an innate need for being told what to do. I absolutely don’t, I’m very anti-authoritarian. But really the religious conservative life is pretty shit. You have to go to church, have all these boring life rules, you can’t have sex with other consensual adults, etc etc. Being left-wing is much more free. Yet people choose to follow religion. I think the indoctrination as a child plays a role in this but I don’t really think it would catch on so much if it didn’t fill an innate need.
People like rules that are clearly defined.
They don’t like gray areas.
Because of the cognitive work involved. People do not want to think about things. They want to know them.
It’s not about authoritarianism, it’s about the features of our brains and biology. Learning is literally a painful process for the brain and people avoid it. Not any different than how physical exercise is painful and people avoid it.
People who seek to learn, just like people who seek physical exercise, have re-wired their brain to enjoy those things than by default, they would not.
Hmm interesting take! I didn’t think of it like that.
I do indeed enjoy learning and also chaos (and what you call gray areas), but I’m very ADHD. A bit autistic too but when it comes to rules the ADHD definitely takes the lead.
Of course they are.
Always projection with these retards, children and trans porn
Who just searches on google for porn? wtf? That can’t be a legitimate sample of the public, can it?
Where are you going? Some sticky TOR server or something?
I usually don’t have to worry about it because your parents let me watch.
Completely rational question if you, like me, also willingly assume rational thought from any member of the general public.
I watch a lot of true crime and you would not believe how many people commit a heinous crime and immediately start building the case against themselves googling shit. The American public is functionally brain damaged.
Everything going on with the femboy heatmap is incredible. All the red and blue areas of the southwest doing the handshake meme. Fucking Pueblo and Scranton population catchment areas going all in for some reason. The smooth cultural spectrum in Cascadia.
It’s also in the wrong article because femboys aren’t trans, but it is funny to contrast it with the map for ‘shemale’ (eugh)
They don’t even hide it, the Manosphere paradoxaly loves femboys.
They don’t see it that way cause they think being a top isn’t gay.
I thought it was obvious that the top is the gayest of the two by virtue of putting his penis in a man, rather than a woman.
For a lot of these guys, it seems being gay is more about the stereotypical gay behavior. Discrete sex with other men is fine, but acting stereotypical is Gay.
The straightest thing you can do is blow your homie.
Just a little male bonding, it’s not gay.
If you can’t be “manly™” you can be an object to be fucked. Its manly to push a guy to be feminized, proves you were more man.
Part of that gay son vs thot daughter bullshit.
Men are getting left behind and need something to keep them busy and off the streets and its being weaponized as not being manly enough and giving work where they can abuse people to prove they are. Then that work makes everyone more scared and poor and the wealthy have a bunch of thugs that will do whatever is asked.
What deliverance was based on a true story?
The only exposure Republicans have to the outside world is through porn
