“Texas fash bootlicker faces no charges for disposing of woke foreigner who happened to be his daughter”
He was gonna teach her gun safety, with a loaded gun while not respecting trigger discipline or the laser rule?
I’d say that’s “a likely story” but the man’s a Trumper so it’s exactly the kind of stupid I’d expect.
Yeah, stupid group of people can’t even do the thing they care most about correctly.
You forgot about the like half liter of wine he had.
Hadn’t heard “laser rule” before, I assume it’s the same as “don’t point it at anything you care about”.
Yes.
Essentially always pretend there’s a deadly and infinite laser coming from the muzzle.
Just to add to this, it’s a more helpful way to think about it, because people hear “don’t point it at” and they think of “pointing” as an intentional action, like gesturing or taking aim, instead of thinking about all the small ways that a weapon moves as you reposition it or transition from one grip to another, and so on.
Don’t treat a gun like Tony Stark treats particle beams from an accelerator.
A pretty good analogy. I’ve been taught that the gun is always loaded and ready to go unless it’s fully disassembled. Only exception is when you personally checked that it is not and the gun haven’t left your hands after checking it. And even then you don’t point it to anything you don’t want a hole in.
And the same rule applies no matter the type of gun you’re holding. A bb-gun, .22 or .308, pistol or long barrel or whatever, they are all always loaded.
While this is accurate and true, the laser rule, for the reasons described above, helps people to really visualize the danger created by a weapon as it moves around. Just saying “The gun is always loaded” isn’t enough. Too many people see this as simply a skill challenge, like “Well of course I’m not going to accidentally pull the trigger, I’m too good for that.”
I guess to put it another way, just thinking of the gun as always loaded isn’t enough, because at some point in the process of operating a firearm you inevitably have to do things with it while it’s loaded. So you have to teach people how to safely interact with a loaded firearm. The “always loaded” rule is really just affirming that whatever you would do with a loaded firearm, you do with every firearm.
A slightly different way to think it I guess. I’ve been also learned that intentionally pulling a trigger is not the only way to fire a gun. There’s always a possibilty for the mechanism to trigger if you accidentally bump the gun or drop it or trigger guard can get tangled with something or whatever, so the ‘laser pointer’ part is sort of included in that as you need to be aware at all times where the gun is pointing and how you move around and interact with it.
And it obviously applies to things like chambering a bullet, removing clip from the gun and so on. I’ve personally seen a .22lr pistol to fire when slide was released on reloading, it was a old gun with really dirty mechanism so just the bump from the slide hitting the frame of the gun was enough to trigger it.
But no matter what ever way or analogy you’ve been thaught to work with guns, proper handling does not kill or injure anyone, specially not in your living room.
There’s always a possibilty for the mechanism to trigger if you accidentally bump the gun
Ah, a Sig owner, I see.
Yup.
It makes you think about not just where you point it, but everything it might “slice” as you handle it.
Or even how you set it down, or move around one sitting on table.
After drinking, and right before leaving for the airport.
She did teach her gun safety. When not operated safely, guns can kill your daughter.
Dude probably never even stepped foot in a gun safety course beyond anything that was the bare minimum to legally get his gun, if there was even any requirements. I don’t know Texas law. Based on what he said to his daughter about sexual assault, he seems like a completely careless shit.
Wow, that’s shameful and disgusting.
Yeah, SHE’S the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I get that it was not intentional… but it’s still homicide (I guess; in Spain it’s that way is it was an accident).
If it truly weren’t intentional (which it probably was, a Glock doesn’t just “go off” for no reason, as I understand), it would still be considered “manslaughter” here. He should’ve been indicted. This is insanity.
As someone who absolutely loved Archer, I have to recommend Hit-Monkey.
Now, I know people are sick of Marvel, but Hit-Monkey is BARELY Marvel. Especially season 1.
It’s animated by Floyd County Productions, same people who did Archer, and as for the plot, imagine that Archer were an assassin instead of a spy and that he were voiced by Jason Sudeikis instead of H Jon Benjamin and that he ends up as a ghost mentor for a monkey.
It’s fantastic. I binged the whole thing in two days this past week.
Is it full of “'memba” moments like the rest of the mcu?
Nope. Not even a little, unless I’m misinterpreting what you mean.
“'memba”, or “remember that thing” moments are when they shoe horn cameos from other franchise characters or into the show, or the writers add dialogue referencing events in the universe and the audience goes “yes! I know that character” or “hey, I know that other show!”. Disney’s star wars is notoriously bad at it, and so is the MCU to a slightly lesser degree. It’s off putting and very low-brow, breaking the flow of a plot by introducing a very obvious fan service element.
If you are not misinterpreting it, I’m glad to hear.
I haven’t heard of this, will definitely check it out!
It’s impossible for this to be unintentional, or it’s so negligent that there’s no difference. Guns do not just go off, and Glocks require an intentional trigger pull.
There’s absolutely zero chance it wasn’t intentional.
Dude was drunk and angry and shot her, and then immediately afterwards started feeling regret so he did what literally all reich-wingers do and refused to take responsibility for what he did
That’s normally what the charge of “manslaughter” is supposed to be used for in the courts. Murder would be with intent, manslaughter is any other act with deadly consequence.
Why that didn’t happen in this case is beyond me.
There’s a whole list of charges below murder. Even “criminal negligence” FFS. That he wasn’t charged with something is ridiculous.
Ahhh, so “Honor killings” are now acceptable in the US.
Then he ought to be put down, for his daughter’s honor.
Always have been
What’s another one?
Most lynching victims
werehave been (apparently people in the US are still lynching) accused of either murder or rape. So have a look at this NSFL Wikipedia article and look at the accusations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lynching_victims_in_the_United_StatesIn some cases, especially closer to the present, lynchers have been prosecuted and sentenced, but it a lot of situations this wasn’t the case.
Research done by anti-lynching groups of that time period found that the majority of lynching victimes were owed money by white folks, usually as sharecroppers, and expected to be paid said money.
only corporate media is to blame
Reported.
huh?
This reads like it never even went to trial. The article says a jury “failed to indict” and the man was “never charged”.
I’m assuming it was a grand jury and somehow a bare majority or jurors couldn’t find cause to charge the man (who—at minimum—pointed a gun at his daughter’s chest and pulled the trigger) with any crime whatsoever.
Not a single charge or trial?
How?
Texas
Also she was Anti-Trump. And a woman. So it’s okay.
Yes. Totally on her. /s If she had not been born yet, then things would have been a lot different. ‘dad’ had been on death-row before midnight
They don’t consider it a crime if they don’t believe the victim is a person.
Unironically a foundational tenant of the entire country.
Some of us have just done a better job of moving past it. (Dems enabled Gaza genocide so I’m not talking about Dems, at least not the politicians. I mean some individuals.)
Hey look how about some sympathy for the gun owner here? He accidentally pointed a loaded weapon at a loved one while having a heated argument, and the gun felt scared and accidentally went off! By accident!
Really, that poor gun owner might be scared to point a loaded weapon at a loved one again! Don’t victim blame the poor owner!
Some states do require a grand jury indictment if its a crime that carries capital punishment. Like murder.
Could be a case where they went for a specific murder charge, but weren’t able to support it.
Or the prosecutor was implicit
Complicit
“If a district attorney wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
I don’t think the district attorney tried to do more than the bare minimum for the indictment. I wonder if they purposely threw the case.
“Justice for Mama Cass!”
Grand jury indictments are required for felony charges to make it to trial, including felonies like murder/involuntary manslaughter.
Indictments are a very low bar (probable cause). In this case, it seems clear to me from everyone’s accounts that, at minimum, this was a reckless homicide where the mishandling of a firearm resulted in someone’s death, and therefore probable cause existed to indict, so this is very clearly a poor decision on the jury’s part. I’m not sure if they tried to seek an indictment for involuntary manslaughter or murder though. Murder is a higher bar.
However this isn’t necessarily a done deal. Double jeopardy does not apply to grand juries’ “no bill” (i.e. the decision not to indict), so the prosecutor can gather more evidence or plan a different approach and try again. If, for example, they attempted to get an indictment for murder and failed, they could try again for manslaughter. This is really only news if the prosecution decides to stop trying to indict.
It could also be a case of a prosecutor who agrees with the shooter. (A right-wing extremist prosecutor, who has ever heard of such a thing?)
In that case, the prosecutor might feel pressured to bring the case before a grand jury, just to make it look like he’s doing his job. But he could deliberately throw the case, neglect to mention important evidence, etc, etc, and fail to get an indictment. That way, he gets to shut down the prosecution without making it look like it was his choice. Since grand jury proceedings are sealed, nobody would be able to know he deliberately sandbagged and failed on purpose. Then he gets to make a public statement about how he tried, but the grand jury said no, so his hands are tied.
So it could be a way for a malicious prosecutor to kill/bury the case without looking like he’s deliberately letting a murderer go free.
True, but never blame malice when incompetence will suffice.
Those in tech support wonder sometimes.
Incompetent is common, even the default. Half of people are dumber and less competent than the average person, and people who are incompetent tend to over estimate their competence at the same time.
“To shoot her through the chest whilst she was standing would have required him to have been pointing the gun at his daughter, without checking for bullets, and pulling the trigger,” the coroner said. “I find these actions to be reckless.”
Mmhmm.
Grand jury. What little I’ve read keeps saying they tried for manslaughter. Also from what I’ve read, based on the dad’s own statements he’s clearly guilty of a number of crimes that aren’t manslaughter. So it’s possible there’s some nazi-esque camaraderie here and the prosecutor intentionally flopped to get no charges. I’m not exactly sure how grand juries work on that front. Could they have tried for a lower level charge, then once the rest of the investigation uncovers things they just bump the charge up to the appropriate level of would they need to reconvene a grand jury? Could the grand jury have considered multiple levels of charges?
Grand juries are different than trial juries in Texas. They’re nominated “respectable” members of society that serve terms for multiple months. It’s remnants of Jim Crow that are alive and well, where rich white guys decide who gets prosecuted for what.
And Texas made it even worse a few years back. In 2008, a white guy called 911 because police his neighbor’s house was being robbed. He indicated that the neighbor’s were not home, and also that he was gonna shoot the burglars. The dispatch told him over a dozen times not to interfere, and he repeatedly said he would shoot them. As plainclothes police were arriving on scene, dispatch told him they were arriving, but he went ahead and shot the 2 unarmed burglars in the back while.they were fleeing, killing both. They happened to be unarmed.
The grand jury refused to indict him for a crime, but the familes sued the murderer in civil court and won.
So Texas made a law that if someone is not found convicted of a felony for a gun crime they can’t be sued in civil court over it.
How much do we want to bet that the law wouldn’t apply if the shooter was black?
I knew that the US justice system was bad, but I at least hoped that some crimes would have to be trialed in court.
Thanks for the explanation.
So Texas made a law that if someone is not found convicted of a felony for a gun crime they can’t be sued in civil court over it.
This is how you get vigilantes.
That’s the idea.
They openly allowed armed civilian militias like the “Minutemen” and “United Constitutional Patriots” to detain and hold migrants at gunpoint until CBP arrived.
Hell - in the 80s a militia group calling itself the “Civiliian Military Assistant” was actually making border raids into Mexico to shoot on migrants before they crossed the border.
You know, these folks keep worrying about the cartels and the Black Panthers. And the more I read, the more I wish that what they feared most actually came to pass, and Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generación actually rolled a few APCs into their neighborhoods and started a scorched earth campaign or three.
“Kris reportedly moved to the United States when his daughter was still a child, and had previously been to rehab for alcohol addiction. He allegedly confessed to relapsing on the day of the shooting and drinking roughly two cups of white wine.”
apparently its only bad when they send murders and rapists and they do not support trump or are part of his administration.
Ah yes, the “good” kind of immigrant…
“As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang,” Kris allegedly said. “I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell.” WTF!!! It proves he pointed the gun at his daughter, which is a big fucking NO NO! Worse yet, the damn thing was locked and loaded. Fuck him, charge him with murder.
This is just an excuse, dude murdered his daughter and is trying to blame it on the gun. Guns don’t load themselves, and they don’t magically go off…
Remember, guns don’t kill people, people kill people
And sadly, the highest percentage is within a family.
Nevermind that’s all emotional BS.
He did it intentionally not on accident. They’re trusting the murderer in the m urder case.
Exactly this. I was taught not to point a gun at anything I don’t intend to destroy, even if I believe it not to be loaded.
Anything less than that is negligent manslaughter at the least if the gun ‘goes off’ ‘by accident’, because you should never be in that situation.
Where I live, in Europe, you CAN own firearms. Long guns pretty easily, as they are considered hunting/sporting guns, including semi-auto assault rifles, albeit, with 3 round magazines. Buying or even 3D printing larger ones is trivial, but it’s a felony to have one near the gun (same range/car/house…).
Long gun licenses require a medical, which includes a basic psych eval.
Handguns require a stricter medical, with a more detailed psych eval, and a course which includes gun safety, and legislation, among other things.
Except for some rare exceptions (jewelers, judges, and other people that can objectively be considered a target for assault or retaliation) you cannot carry, open or otherwise, except to go to a range, or hunting ground, and the gun and munitions must be separated; guns in a case in the trunk, with the magazine and munitions in the front of the car.
I don’t get why there isn’t a reasonable license for guns in the US. There is for cars, no?
I’m gonna guess there’s no significant hurdle to getting a psych eval in your European country. No expensive medical bill, no worrying about time off from work to get it.
We hyperfocussed so much on that “shall not be infringed” part that we managed to give up our health and the best 40 years of our lives to the machine.
Also assuming that mental health care even exists in your state…. Oklahoma doesn’t even have providers to get that expensive evaluation from…
Because freedumb
Why have I never seen this before. What a great homonym.
From 1999. Not considered a “classic” ST album but still shreds hard.
“reasonable license for cars” lol no. I mean we need a license to drive, but it’s so stupidly easy in so many places and you can fail so many times and still get it. We basically test if the person has a pulse before letting them drive. And based on the driving changes I’ve seen since covid I’m thinking even the pulse has become optional
There’s no excuse for it to not be murder, but the fact its not even manslaughter is a message.
“To shoot her through the chest whilst she was standing would have required him to have been pointing the gun at his daughter, without checking for bullets, and pulling the trigger,” the coroner said. “I find these actions to be reckless.”
Whoopsies! I usually make sure not to pull the trigger when casually pointing a loaded gun at a family member’s chest. But that’s just me being overly cautious.
I am baffled at how this doesn’t constitute premeditated murder. They had some argument and then guy’s like “know what? I know what I’m gonna do.” And did it. What freaking horror.
You missed the part where the guy said he didn’t mean to do that and he’s sorry.
“Jesus says to forgive…”
That is the crux of Christianity and the crutch of Christian morality.
Yeah, well, Jesus will render unto you what is Jesus’ forgiveness. Until then, Caesar will render unto you a prison sentence.
Well glocks don’t have safeties and require you to pull the trigger to disassemble. Negligent discharges when trying to show them off to people absolutely do happen, and with how you have to hold the gun to take it apart the “don’t point at anything you don’t wish to shoot” rule gets overlooked a lot.
They’re the default “modern” handgun but I’ve always said they are a terrible design.
Finally, a fellow Glock hater!
Two things that should be completely unacceptable in a modern firearm:
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Having no safety mechanism whatsoever. (Trigger dingus doesn’t count.)
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Requiring a trigger pull (or even putting your finger inside the trigger guard) for any other reason than intending to fire a shot.
And there are so many excellent modern pistols out there that don’t break these two rules. Pistols that do everything a Glock can do, but without these glaring safety issues. So why is the Glock still the ‘default’ choice? It’s especially egregious to see it as a recommendation to novice shooters. Dealing with these safety issues should require an expert. Putting a gun with these issues into the hands of a new shooter is just asking for trouble.
A safety exists to prevent human error. Not touching the trigger doesn’t solve this.
The primary argument of “you might forget to disengage it in the heat of the moment” is complete bullshit. If you can’t reliably disengage a safety you can’t reliably not pull the trigger during a draw, shooting yourself in the femoral artery or hand. Either you practice your draw until it’s muscle memory or you don’t, removing safety features to simplify the process doesn’t make you safer.
The primary argument of “you might forget to disengage it in the heat of the moment” is complete bullshit.
Even if you are in that (rather misguided) camp, there are better alternatives. Specifically, a grip safety. Safety automatically disengaged as long as you’re holding the gun properly. Can’t ‘forget’ to do that!
And, yes, there are good, modern designs that use grip safeties. The Springfield XD line, for example. (Those models also require a trigger pull for disassembly, though. Is it that hard to include some kind of decocker?)
I’m a fan of grip safeties but I still want some form of manual switch I can use to render the gun safe. I honestly think that the FN Five seveN is the best solution but standard 1911 thumb safety (or an HK version with decocker) does the job just fine.
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I just accidentally beat my daughter to death. The bat just went off on it’s own. I was just showing her the bat then all of a sudden she was bludgeoned to death. I have no idea what happened!
Obviously a SIG baseball bat.
not your fault. she was probably just too observant
Er….how? Not even a little charge??
Even when people kill by accident, they’re usually charged with something!
My hope is that he will feel tremendous guilt for the rest of his life, and that his rationalizations might fool others, but never him.
He had told her he wouldn’t mind if she was raped, because he had two other daughters.
So no, he’ll feel no guilt for murdering his daughter.
he wouldn’t mind if she was raped
that I don’t get at all! As soon as I know someone even thinks of raping mine, I know which of my axes will be in my hand
People like this tend to this of the women in their life (wives, daughters etc.) as objects they own. When an object is broken and cannot be fixed, you throw it away — especially if you have spares.
It’s only speculation, but it fits the pattern. I have had the misfortune of knowing multiple disgusting assholes like this guy
Charming fellow
He’s literally a remorseless psychopath.
Well he’s an alcoholic so his life was probably already full of regrets and numbing the pain.
Cool. My hope is the boyfriend disagrees with this outcome.
