Former Trump administration official and wife of top Trump aide Stephen Miller, Katie Miller, posted Saturday on X (formerly Twitter) an image of Greenland covered in the U.S. flag with the text “SOON”.

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    Can we move forward to a post-apocalyptic world already? I really like the foreplay, but I’ve been ready for years.

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      Money hungry. It’s all for the resources. They’ll do it relatively bloodless if you let 'em, but they aren’t going to stop till they are made to.

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        This isn’t the American people. It’s the will of thousands of the world’s most powerful multinational oligarchs — billionaires and old money millionaire elites — who are actively corrupting ALL politics and public discourse; waging class warfare, globally.

        Murdoch is one of the most well-known examples, but I’m sure there are hundreds (if not thousands) of fossil fuel and military contractor investors or board members who are psychopathic criminals that deserve to be in the dirt.

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          Yes but also us Americans, so proud of our second amendment, are refusing to use it for its intended purpose.

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            Because the 2A nutjobs were always just that - nutjobs, looking for an excuse to kill people they don’t like.

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            Sure, but a lot of people also don’t want to get vaporized by a dot in the sky. Pretty much impossible to shoot a reaper drone down with small arms.

            The only way out is through a general strike (unlikely to happen because the billionaire class has intentionally made everyone too poor, so citizens cannot last very long without pay) or through other countries dumping US bonds.

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                Because of the electoral college, getting out to vote when you otherwise wouldn’t have is almost entirely useless in most states as the party most states will side with is basically a forgone conclusion.

                On top of that, the Republican party has spent decades making it deliberately difficult to vote by limiting the number of polling places, as well as limiting mail in voting.

                The Democratic party on the other hand refuses to attempt radical economic upheaval that poorer US citizens desperately need because Democrats are still the “moderate” party that is in the pocket of billionaires.

                The Republicans routinely promise radical actions that they say will make things better for everyone. They’re lying of course, but it’s hard to be exceptionally poor, have no access to health care and vote for the party that is not advocating radical actions on your behalf.

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                  It’s 1 day every 4 years (2 including midterms). Even if the nearest polling place is 1 hour drive away. Even if your vote won’t be the deciding vote. In my country it takes less than 10 minutes to vote, but lets say it is 2 hours in the USA. That is a total of 4 hours.

                  If 1/3 of US-Americans are not willing to “lose” 4 hours every 4 years. And 1/3 of USAmericans directly vote for fascism. Then a majority of USAmericans are ok with fascism.

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              so where are the 70%? Why are they not on the streets? Why are they not protesting?

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                Look I’m not saying that people should not be doing more they absolutely should but multiple no Kings protests have happened notably being objectively some of the largest protests in the US ever documented.

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                If they live in an area where their representatives do not vote for these policies, what are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to burn down local government buildings, when everyone in that local government opposes Trump as well? They’ve also already tried peaceful protests. Trump doesn’t care about that.

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                We know exactly what they are doing already. Watching the trains go by to Dachau saying “better them than me”. Watching their sons and daughters go to war saying “well I’m not really political”.

                Feckless cowards. They bear full responsibility for the current situation yet you can’t count on them to do anything they aren’t made to do.

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                If you’re one of the 1/3 of the dipshits who did not vote you bare full responsibility for this mess! You are part of the problem, you had a choice and you chose to support this idiocracy.

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              I also think the voting machines were rigged. enough proof of discrepancies out theremto show doubt in authenticity.

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              Remember 4.7 million voters were purged from the rolls in 2024.

              Yes too many didn’t care enough to vote but enough were prevented from voting to swing the election. Republicans are an anti democracy party

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                Always were. You know that bullshit they always spewed about “small government”? What they meant was NO government, because then the power is wielded by money and physical strength, i e fascism, just like they want it.

                They don’t believe in democracy because they believe they must and shall rule regardless of whatever anybody else wants.

                Just like a religion, just like a cult. Now look at them!

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          The government represents the people, and in the US, the government is a very good reflection of the US as a whole.

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          Is it not the people who allowed this to happen by turning a blind eye? Americans always want to be the face of freedom and democracy but when it counts they do nothing.

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    I never thought I’d be on the side opposing the US in WWIII, but hey ho, here we go.

    (And this might even mean I’m on the side opposite my own government depending on how things progress here in the meantime.)

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      I don’t quite understand how there are people that ever thought the U.S. was good. How could anyone look at their zealotous imperial superiority masturbation and not just be struck with revulsion is beyond me. It’s like the west collectively drank their kool aid and is only now slowly, and tentatively starting to wake up to how fucking insane that country is.

      I’m 100% certain that they could invade and occupy Greenland and the rest of Europe would still be like “yeah but like… they’re the good guys?”

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        Interestingly the US is the least kool aid drinking of Western nations when it comes to managing ‘great power’ realpolitik. Its unabashedly imperialistic with carefully constructed domestic propaganda. It effectively convinces its subjects of its (false) moral legitimacy, generally speaking.

        Europe is the most kool aid drunk at the moment. Stagnation, impending demographic collapse and vastly overestimating their standing on the global stage. Trumps crass handling of relations with Europe has been a wake up call there to say the least. Alexander Stubb’s (president of Finland) speech at the G20 was hopefully heard by and reflected on by EU leaders. Most of the world perceives Europe as having lost its strategic autonomy to the US, mainly though complacency.

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        It was mostly other imperialist countries and their vassal states, why wouldn’t they accept another of their own?

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            Nationalism then. People love to feel important or like they’re part of something, even if they put no actual effort towards that end. Just identify with the place you happened to be born and convince yourself its victories are your own.

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      Because there are systems in place which enable sociopaths and psychopaths to become the richest and most powerful people in the world and the world is never enough for them.

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      Didn’t you read their new national security strategy? They will use force and power to enforce peace (together with blackmail from their billionaire tech companies, if you investigate hate speech, desinformation or criticize them) instead of diplomacy. They never been part of the International Criminal Court anyway, from 1998, so they can do as they wish cause their army is insane smh this is all part of the plan, and continueing trumps work from his first term, america is for the americans, europe for ruzzia, and asia for china and india to figure out basically lol and they can use any dictatorian authorian power they like

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      Epstein and testimony about the insurrection against the US government.

      There is a lot of valid looking accusations that need to be distracted from.

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        Don’t have another choice, with our european army against the biggest army in the world from our own ally… Smh

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          An EU embargo of the US (including banning “services” like tech) would likely crash the US economy (probably the EU economy too). I think the EU will just allow the US to do whatever it wants though, with the wealthy just bribing all the important politicians and ramping up propaganda to promote far-right ideology.

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    This is the kind of imperialism that caused both world wars. Stop it now, or we all die in inevitable nuclear holocaust.

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        “Deeah feckin’ owhligarks, the younited nayshins was mayhde to keep fawhkin’ cawkseckin’ fashusts from feckin’ invadin’ every feckin’ one all the feckin’ time. Yous guys is gonna cause wold wa’ tree!” - signed, youwr feckin n’ votahs

        P.S. - Feckin’ release the Eepsteen fihuls yeh fuckin’ cunts!

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        They’re too busy being more obscenely wealthy than ever before. You’re gonna have to kill a few of them for this to stop.

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          Who wants to survive the initial strikes of a nuclear holocaust? I know I don’t. Why duck and cover when you can walk into the light and finally be free.

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          The bunkers they built on Maori land? They offered them to new Zealand, remember? Oh… They really thought private land ownership protected them from the government/ people from taking them back at any moment?

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      Here’s the problem. War has always been the go-to solution when the USA had major troubles. At this point, I’m convinced World War III is inevitable. Simply because it’s the only way for the USA to try and fix its economy. Otherwise it’s recession or worse once the AI bubble pops.

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        We did it to the Japanese, we’re doing it to Mexicans. The cages have been there for over a decade with plenty of coverage but no one stopped them.

        We have secret police known as undercover officers in unmarked vans. That’s just on the local level of militarized police.

        We have the SS known as ICE that was set up to arrest brown people post-9/11.

        We gave up freedoms out of fear and now they use that fear to arrest anyone who questions the state.

        We’ve been the bad guys since the Patriot act. When people protested it and got beaten by police it was a meme in 2004. “Don’t trade me bro!”

        We’re fucked. We only have ourselves to care for. Be kind to your friends and family, don’t listen to a god damn cop.

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        We should stop using the term “America” for the USA. America is so much more than that one evil state.

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    The US already has access to Greenland’s minerals. Greenland is in NATO. The fat, orange murderer/felon/rapist is greedy beyond measure.

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    Can you yanks do that “well armed militia” thing some of you have been banging on about in defense of mowing down children with automatic weapons?

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      I’m far more heavily armed than most. I could outfit my entire block, though they’re already armed; young, old, liberal, MAGA. Yes, even the little old black lady across the street.

      What the fuck do you want me to do? I’m sick of these smartass posts. Give me fucking instructions and be clear or STFU.

      Fuck me. Saw what looked like an ICE thing in Alabama today, put my Colt .45 under my leg while trying to get my immigrant wife the hell back to Florida. There’s a 12-gauge pump leaning on my desk 24x7 and the AR-15 leans on my nightstand. Being that there’s no ICE around here, want me to hunt some down a couple of states away? Be clear in your instructions.

      I now lock my doors, have a gun in reach everywhere I go and live in fear. And you assholes, “LOL! Where my 2A boys at?”

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        Find some like minded people, take out some ICE personnel at night, take out their vehicles, make them all afraid to round people up.

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          Yeah this is the part they don’t want to accept because it’s ugly and it’s risky. It takes courage and conviction, and it takes planning and commitment.

          There are very few people who can do this, and even fewer who can do it successfully and also live a reasonably normal life without getting caught. The problem is that all the 2A people got convinced they were the vanguard but never actually were told what that means. They bought into the hype but never understood what it really meant. Now when it gets real and it gets ugly they find out they never were that guy, and they just wanted to cosplay as that guy because the guns are cool.

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        They don’t realize that the military that our government has used in other countries will easily be used against us, and has far greater firepower than we could ever have. I’m armed, in case shit goes down, but I will not last long against the military industrial complex in the US. Not to mention a ton of people here are disabled and have not had real healthcare in years.

        If just a group of us, or your neighborhood, for example, goes out against the government, the insurrection card will be played and everyone will be arrested, shot, and/or vaporized. It would take a fuck ton of people to rise up, and then you run into the same issue as the general strike. How do you keep people fed? We already can’t do that now, so we’d need to set up the infrastructure to be able to feed everyone while we weather the storm.

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        Well then maybe start getting rid of your fucking useless 2A that is responsible for so much death and tragedy if it doesn’t do THE ONE THING that’s supposed to make all that fucking death and tragedy worthwhile

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          Do explain your understanding of the Constitutional amendment process and how that might play out in 2025 America.

          Either answer or shut the fuck up with your facile, childish notions.

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            “I support the 2A because it would not be political not to support it.” Orrrrrr you just like guns, and fuck the consequences.

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      How has it not been made clear to you that the 2nd amendment people ARE Trump supporters.

      Plus the firearms people have access to don’t work against the state. They really want people to try, but that’s the problem with left leaning people, we think before we act.

      These fuckers are putting MRAVs and other armor in the streets. Your small arms fire just tells them where you are loudly and quickly.

      We must never fight on their terms. We must never fight how they are trained.

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        You may not have an option, buddy.

        Once the US starts invading other countries it’s kind of a one way street

        Greenland is threatened again, and after Venezuela, people are listening. Mexico is threatened again and you bet your ass that both Mexican government and US army trained cartels are preparing. Mexico doesn’t have any army to speak of, but Mexico will be the US next Afghanistan. Bodies and blood will flow.

        And how do you think it’ll end when the US tries to invade Canada?

        Can they please just stop this madness

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          Huge chunks of our problems are Rupert Murdoch (Australia), Leon Musk (South Africa), Peter Thiel (Germany), Congress (Israel), and the POTUS (Russia). Maybe the rest of the world can not bother with America’s problems, but deal with the ones you’ve sent us?

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              And the desire not to vote is a human problem, far from uniquely American. Denial and dissociation are how people get through lots of life, if my own experience as well as conversations with Russian and Chinese friends are any indicator. And the reason that the wealthy foreigners come here is that the U.S. has been the current center of economic power. They would have gone to London in the 19th century.

              And, for the record, I don’t actually expect that non-wealthy South Africans can do anything about Musk, but then, neither can non-wealthy Americans.

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                the desire not to vote is a human problem

                Maybe in your mind, but it’s the reason the US is where it’s at.

                It isn’t the 19th century. The reason Murdoch went to the US is a fertile ground to milk for that wealth.

                Yes, non wealthy Americans could have done something about Musk…voted, because he himself admitted had Harris won, he’d be in jail.

                Edit: fixed quote

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                your quick to blame current problems on foreigners, while ignoring that those people came to the us BECAUSE of its existing imperialistic politics.

                They’re at best a symptom of a larger problem.

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                  No, I’m cranky from people upthread putting all of the responsibility on us, when their countries ain’t so sweet and innocent. There’s a line a kilometer wide in fluorescent yellow between the 9/11 attacks back to U.S. imperialism, for instance, but Britain, Netherlands, Germany, and Russia all had their own brands of imperialism which are far more responsible for raising up those men to wealth. This is more a problem of class than nationality.

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                  The current regime COLLABORATED with the Kremlin to get in power. As is a lot of other fascist movements in the world. I think we can safely blame a foreigner.

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            The import and sale ban does not apply to drones already authorized by the FCC, meaning you can still buy and use existing models (like current DJI drones) until stock runs out, but future models won’t be available.

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      Have you petitioned your government to send MANPADS and other concealable, man-portable weaponry to groups in the US?

      Because that’s realistically what it would take. The US and NATO countries started helping Ukraine it its fight by sending in these types of man-portable weapons, drones, etc. They’re they type of thing that’s small enough to be snuck over a border in large numbers. And they’re the types of weaponry that could actually allow militia groups in the US, armed with civilian weaponry, to plausibly resist the military in any real capacity. Of course, the only source for this type of weaponry is other nation states.

      Realistically, any rebellion would need extensive foreign support. Just like every other rebellion/insurrection that’s happened over the last century or more.

      So, I ask again, how many letters, emails, and phone calls have you made to your leaders, encouraging them to send military grade weaponry to US resistance groups?

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        2016:

        ‘Mind your own business, it’s our right not to vote’

        2025:

        ‘If you want us to fix our shit send us MANPADS’

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      The US government has made it so a well armed militia cannot overpower them in any shape or form. Want to tell us how to shoot down a drone at 10,000 feet before it vaporizes us? I’m all ears.

      The only way this gets fixed is through a (unlikely, by design) general strike, other countries dumping US bonds, or if by some miracle the midterms actually happen.

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        The US military will be defeated financially, not on the battlefield. In the end, the US empire is collapsing for the same reason every other empire in history has collapsed. Ultimately they are not financially sustainable. When you build your whole economic model on continued expansion and exploitation, the whole thing collapses once you reach hard limits and can no longer expand.

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          Indeed, well put. It will never be defeated by US citizens, only if the bottom line of the military industrial complex is affected.

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        There’s a general strike happening after the midterms, its won’t be till 2028 though when that Congress steps in.

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          I’ll believe it when I see it. People in the US are only getting poorer and more unable to afford to strike (by design).

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    Trump is a true business genius! Why negotiate when you are bad at it and you also have the most powerful army and the most lethal weapons and the most pettiness in the world? /s