Paul McCartney’s official Reddit account seems to have been banned. The account, u/paulmccartney, had just dropped a set of photos and videos from the first night of his shows at the Fonda Theatre. It went straight into the r/PaulMcCartney subreddit. Then, not long after, the whole thing disappeared.

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    reddit says he wasn’t banned but temporarily restricted during a password reset requirement, which showed him as banned due to a reddit bug

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      that bug has been ongoing since last year, it resulted in a ton of bans. one of my last accounts during the purge has the “password request” the first time he freed up my account from “ban” and then a 2nd time it shadowbanned me. something tells me its somewhat intentional to cull the numbers on reddit.

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      Nobody knows yet what triggered the ban. It could have been an automatic system, a moderator decision, or even some glitch with account verification. Reddit has not said a word about it.

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        I’ve been temp banned from Reddit multiple times now, for simply opposing genocide & war on behalf of Israel. People getting banned from Reddit should be seen as a badge of honor & means they’re likely doing something right.

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        A moderator cannot BAN your account. They can ban you from posting on their subreddit, and can, often baselessly, get you reported to admins (who 100% of the time side with the moderators), usually flagging any kind of modmail conduct as “threatening or harassment”.

        I’ve literally got a warning because I dared to ask a mod why they banned me - their response being a 30 day mute and a report to the admins about “Hey! I was wondering why you banned me, as I don’t think my comment broke any of the rules of the sub or Reddit” being threatening, and harassment…

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        Under… what? Those “places” crossed fascism line a decade ago. Marasmus line a few years ago. What additional regulation do you want? VIN number of the user’s ass?

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          Can a restaurant send you out for discussing something the owner doesn’t like? Not here at least (as long as you aren’t bothering other customers / respecting the house rules).

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            The oldest rule of this restaurant: do not discuss whatever the owner dislikes.

            Next rule: respect the house rules.

            Also a rather old rule: we will send you out for disrespecting the house rules.

            New rule: no boiled carrots in any dish!

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            A restaurant owner can kick you out for not liking your colors. They rarely do because it’s bad for business.

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      I imagine the site’s bot-detectors had a false positive (imagine that!). McCartney’s account had only posted once before and then remained dormant for a number of years. Suddenly, the account woke up again and surely must have gained an unusually rapid number of upvotes due to the celebrity status and the fandom subreddit. Looking at this data without any context, white-listing of accounts, or human eyes, this could potentially trigger their automated ban system. Additionally/alternatively, sharing Dropbox links seems to be an unspoken no-no on the site?

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      Reddit has a lot of established local community subreddits, and when you are that established, its hard to give up.

      Disclaimer: I was just banned on a second account after being found out for my first ban (I said some things with, well, lets say “high praxis”) and I am not happy about it.

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        I was banned for prohibited content on my “other accounts.”

        I only have one account. (Appeal was denied, and I suspect the entire operation was done by bots. It literally said, “go look at your other accounts to see what you did wrong.”)

        Meanwhile, another user over there is advocating violence against a very well known public figure (I’m sure you can guess what and who), and the comment is still up and the poster is not banned. -throws up hands-

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          I’m guessing this public figure is someone with…questionable involvement in current affairs, or is not aligned with Conservative interests?

          Yep checks out.

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          yea its definitely bot/AI moderation on reddit, reddit wont scale back this, due to them having less work to appeal to all those bans.

          All also you know the ban is done by a AI/bot is if gives a generic message like “your other accounts violated,this or that” instead of the ban telling which community you got banned in.

          reddit doesnt go after propaganda bots, as far as ive observed they target only the ones they cant benefit from(OF accounts, people who connect thier posts thier business".

          and right wing propaganda is quite lucrative right now.

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          i got first permabanned by a mod from r/news for commenting “when a terrorist hides in a school full of children it is not ok to blow up the school with the children still in it” under an article about IDF doing just that while hunting for some hamas fighters (no warning, no previous infractions, straight permaban, reason: “you broke the community rules” - no further explanation). it hurt a bit cause i did not participate in any political discussions normally. but shortly after that there was a picture of WW2 nazi flag on someone’s front yard in ohio and people started suggesting that someone should bring a veteran to this person to explain them the error of their ways. i didn’t resist and responded that this person knows exactly what they are doing and they do it cause there are no consequences to it. i also wrote that somebody should “tar and feather them and chase them around” - after which my account got restricted cause “we are trying to create a community where everyone can feel safe and therefore we cannot tolerate calls for violence against others”.

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      The other night I was watching John Stewart and he made an interesting comment. He said that reddit only recently became usable because it was too gross before. Insane especially from him

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      Because there are still a lot of content creators, especially in the technology field.If the process of sharing code and projects and receiving feedback took place on another platform, nobody would use Reddit.That’s my only reason.

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        Yes, I’ve been getting very bad vibes from that place for a while now. It seems very filtered and the content is no longer reflective of what people upvote. It’s tracking more to corporate interests and propaganda. Also, I think a lot of people have unintentionally divulged their most private information and don’t even know it. Their innermost thought expressed in comments, likes dislikes cataloged in votes, all under the false sense of an anonymity. It would be very easy, especially now with AI, to link IPs, browser thumbprints, and writing style analysis back to individual people, at a mass scale. I think a reckoning is coming.

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    I got banned from a bunch of Reddit subs for once telling someone they were wrong about the Yorkshire accent in the UK. They called me a liar about being British and then I got banned from like 30 places at once.

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      Sounds like you were a dick and didn’t realize and doubled down. No way to tell now.

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        You could have just not typed anything and everything and everyone would have been better off for it.

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        What a bold and insulting statement to make with absolutely no information to back it up.

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        I got banned from about 15 subreddits I never even knew existed once by calling out a transphobic dogwhistle, and when I inquired about the bans, the mods insinuated I was a child molester and neo-nazi.

        Reddit mods don’t need to follow any sort of logic.

        And confidently asserting someone is a dick because they got banned from a subreddit is hilarious, and should probably prompt some self-reflection.

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          There sure are cases of injust behavior by power tripping mods. That being said just presuming guilt and malice is unfair to the volunteers taking care of reddit today.

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            The appropriate way to take care of Reddit is to shut it down, sell all its assets and donate the proceeds to blind dogs, imprison every paid member of staff, put their families into foster homes (if any of them aren’t incels), bulldoze their dwellings, salt their fields, and systematically delete anything online that they ever uploaded.

            Then dunk the shareholders’ heads one by one in a bucket of horse piss, duration of dunking in proportion to the number of shares held.

            I know it’s milder than they deserve, but you gotta start somewhere.

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        Yes that happens, for some reason that user actively goes to FuckAI and bans people who posted there. I can only assume that they see disdain for AI as a personal slight.

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        Yeah so the AI haters have doxxed them, posted their photos on Lemmy, and harassed them non stop.

        But you got banned, that’s rough buddy.

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            It’s pretty straightforward, they’ve been targeted and doxxed and harassed by anti ai trolls on Lemmy. You probably downvoted some posts in their comms, contributing to this and got banned.

            If it’s a comm that doesn’t interest you, why are you even going on about it a month later to shit talk the user?

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              why are you even going on about it a month later to shit talk the user?

              Why did I mention something relevant to the conversation? That’s your question?

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                You could have easily done so without directly linking them. That adds nothing except pushing your vendetta and directing more harassment at them.

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                  I don’t have a vendetta. I’m entirely ignorant of the context you’re describing. I got blanket banned from a series of communities by aforementioned user for (presumably) downvoting. I’m not really very interested in continuing this.

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        Plenty of .ml related moderators on other groups as well that will ban users on lemmy as well because of .ml bs.

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        The insanely ironic text of this removed comment:

        We have that plenty on Lemmy and Piefed too. I recently noticed that @MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com banned me from a bunch of communities because I’d expressed a dislike of the use of generative Al for images somewhere. Hilariously petty.

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      I got banned from one of the UK subreddits when someone posted a lengthy comment about why Brexit was amazing, and I responded that Brexit was idiotic. I got banned for “being political” and the person I was responding to didn’t lol.

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      That tracks. You pissed off someone who had a connection with a mod and/or admin. Been there!

      I got banned once for dunking on IG travel trends and the mod involved was dumb enough to PM me threatening me.

      It’s just pathetic how emotional and over reactive people saying crap on the internet they don’t like. I don’t agree with a lot of stuff but I see no reason to censor people for enjoying musicals or whatever else I hate.

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        Considering all mods are probably mirrors of antiwork mod the entire world got to see - zero surprises there.

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          You see, I never had a single comment moderated by the anti-work people, and I made a lot, a lot of them very extreme comments. Like illegally so. But many other subs I have had that same problem. I used to use revveddit to see which Subs were secretly silencing me, which included pics, and so many others. Mostly Auto mod bullshit I presume. Auto mod which I trust is corrupted by the government for Israel and a number of other issues.

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            Referring more to physical looks and lifestyle of the head mod there.

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        I once got banned in a bunch of subs, including some I wasn’t even in, because a mod didn’t like a comment I made in a sub that wasn’t even theirs. They just didn’t like it, so they banned me in all the subs they modded. Fucking weirdos.

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      I got a sitewide warning a couple of months ago for suggesting that Trump’s inaugural “board of peace” meeting was the apotheosis of the “you have one bullet…” thought experiment. “After reviewing, we found that you broke Rule 1 because you threatened violence or physical harm.” I’ll wager Trump’s secret service guys were absolutely shitting themselves when they read it, so it’s probably for the best they took it down tbf.

      On the bright side, it was the kick up the backside that was needed to get me to try Lemmy, and I hardly use Reddit at all now.

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        I replaced every one of my comments and posts with lorem ipsum before I terminated my accounts.

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      I got a “permanent suspension” from all of Reddit. Isn’t a suspension temporary, wouldn’t a permanent suspension just be a ban?

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        Maybe it’s the difference between undoable or not undoable.

        If you think about it, when a judge gives you a “suspended sentence” for a crime, it is permanently suspended meaning there is no set expiry. But it can be made to expire if needed.

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        Why limit to one aspect? Mastodon (announcements) + Pixelfed (photos of the concerts) + Lemmy/PieFed (fan discussion) + PeerTube (videos of the concerts) + Loops (shorts about the concerts and announcements) + …

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            Why depend on someone else’s mood when it’s your business? Videos on Youtube, fanpage on Reddit or Facebook, short videos on TikTok, news on X, … : they can pull the plug whenever they like.

            With the Fediverse you can create a personal instance only for your business.

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            You kid but it literally starts this way. Imagine if someone like Paul McCartney says, “I’m moving over to mastodon and you should too.”

            He starts to share exclusive content there, sharing videos on loops…

            People will stop going to other places.

            But the content has to come first.

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    It’s funny how a lot of the complaints I’m reading here are about how Reddit is unfriendly toward left-leaning people but all the right wing people complain about how Reddit is a cesspool of liberal propaganda.

    It just goes to show that the platform plays both sides just to promote hate and anger.

    I visited after I got banned and the default posts that show up without logging in (therefore uncurated) were all so irritating that I had to assume they were all ragebait.

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      Reddit is hostile towards left-leaning people, and it is also a cesspool of liberal propaganda. Liberals fucking hate leftists, even more than they hate fascists, because liberalism is fundamentally pro-capitalism. That’s why the mainstream media is currently crashing out about people like Hasan Piker, who actually represent a growing base of support for socialism, and they run every possible smear they can.

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      Lmao I feel the same. Literally feels like rage bait. Like these people are so freaking ignorant. It doesn’t help a lot of Reddit posts are just bots recirculating old content.

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        Yes they are. Liberal covers a wide range of ideology. The liberal versus leftists debate is a Russian pysop

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          The American use of political terms like liberal and socialist are warped from their original meanings.

          Both can mean supporting healthcare for everyone for example. Even though that’s neither a policy following from the theory of liberalism, nor is socialized healthcare dependent on following socialism.

          The same is true for progressivism and leftists. All of these terms are often used interchangeably to the previous two.

          There’s a deep lack of nuance and specificity.

          Actual Marxist leftists and democratic liberals are ideologically opposed to another in many ways. In the US they might agree on better healthcare for everyone and waving rainbow flags. Liberals should be for free markets, (regulated) capitalism, freedoms, etc. A leftist should be opposed to all of these. Freedom to a Marxist means something else than to a liberal.

          Nowadays a lot of political discourse across the spectrum is deeply rooted in identity, creating division, virtue signaling, moralist preaching, etc.

          Discussion on specific politics and details is often cut short by the above campism and clinging to identities.

          This applies to the right and the left equally.

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        Ok, whatever. The point was that they have fun seeing us bicker over shit for their profit.

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      It’s because the platform is full of people who can’t handle someone not agreeing with them, so anyone who says they’re wrong is immediately labelled as the enemy.

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        “Wing” is not the term to use. Liberals sat on the left side of parliament, literally the left wing of a hall, so it’s accurate and quite literal to call them “left wing”. What isn’t accurate is calling them leftist, as in socialist, and I think that’s the term everyone is actually talking about? Everyone is talking past each other here cause of the wing thing.

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          Well… The “wing” of a parliament very roughly represents a political compass. Liberals aren’t left-wing anymore by virtue of having more politically left parties that occupy those physical seats today.

          It does create a very funny situation like here in Denmark where “Venstre” (literally The Danish word for “Left”) is a right-wing political party. More right-wing than “Liberale Alliance” (Danish Liberal Party).

          But Venstre used to be the left-wing party when it formed. Since then, green parties, socialist parties, communist parties, and various parties adjacent to those ideologies, have formed to occupy the left side of the parliament seats, pushing Venstre’s physical seating position all the way to the right side.

          With liberals and moderates being more politically left than them, Venstre now sits right next to the most conservative parties of Denmark. They’re still keeping the name, though.

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          Liberalism is fundamentally a right wing ideology, it’s primarily concerned about the freedom of markets, rather than the freedoms of people, and when it comes down to choosing between the rights of individuals and the interests of corporations, liberals will side with business interests, nearly every single time. Usually, they’ll always couch it in more progressive terms, like talking about jobs and economic growth. That’s why both mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans agree on most issues, because they’re both pro-business, pro-capitalist institutions.

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            So you can’t be pro human liberty anymore? That’s what being a liberal is to me. Corporations are not our friends and hate them as much as a leftist. In my mind, my and my peoples liberty trumps your idea of a perfect economic system. Whatever happens along the way to socialism or back to capitalism, human rights must come first. I don’t know why that concept is so hard for leftists to grasp. I think leftists are affected by a similar psyop that affects Republicans in this regard

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              I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Moreover, you seem to be lumping a bunch of things together.

              Are you American? I could blame that on the lack of a proper representative democracy. Everything gets shovelled together into either one camp or the other, even when they don’t have anything related to each other.

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                I know a great deal about what I’m talking about, but if you feel that I’m wrong about something in particular, I’d be happy to discuss it. I am not American.

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              Of course you can, but when people identify themselves or others as “liberal”, they’re not referring to individual liberty, they’re usually referring to “liberalism”, which does contain some elements of individual liberties, but far more importance is given to free market economics and free flow of capital, than it is to individual freedoms. That’s why corporations can invest anywhere and borders don’t pose much issue for them, whereas it is very hard and expensive for individuals to move to another country.

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                You’re talking about lasseiz fair liberalism. Billionaires and corps are not in any way shape or form “liberal” these days unless you want to talk about neoliberals who pretend to be altruistic. It’s all a psyop to divide the proletariat

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                  No, I’m just talking about liberalism. You probably have some high-minded enlightenment-era ideals floating around in your head about what liberalism is, but I’m telling you, your ideas about how liberalism is about freedom, that’s the actual psyop to divide the proletariat you spoke of. Liberalism is functionally one big propaganda operation to replace monarchies with oligarchies.

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          More like the European reality.

          Compared to Europe, America doesn’t have a left wing. Just a right wing and an extreme right wing.

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              Which translates to:

              • Lower taxes.
              • Less welfare.
              • Defunding public services in favour of private services.
              • Less regulation/“smaller government”.
              • More laws protecting acquisition and ownership.

              In other words, all the basic right-wing talking points minus nationalism,religion, and “country first”.

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      I say fuck Reddit and Lemmy too for not providing the tools to audit modderators. Like we need a removed post/comment/account graveyard where anyone can review and inspect what is being removed with the reasons as to why so that we can have assurance mods are not abusing. Like it is such a simple problem to solve , yet no one wants to implement and thus, here we are.

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        Aren’t you just describing a modlog? The only annoying feature is that mod name is obscured so you have to jump a couple hoops to find who did what and whether they still are mods.

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            Oh hey, yeah, been this way for at least 4 month since… you’ve permabanned me off people twitter 😂 Mind lifting that?

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          4 months ago

          Oh yeah. That is sort of what I was envisioning. It is not really feature complete, but a step in the right direction. Thanks for that link. At least Lemmy is trying versus Reddit that lets it fester.