Paul McCartney’s official Reddit account seems to have been banned. The account, u/paulmccartney, had just dropped a set of photos and videos from the first night of his shows at the Fonda Theatre. It went straight into the r/PaulMcCartney subreddit. Then, not long after, the whole thing disappeared.

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      They’re making money by doing it. Conservatives monetize better.

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        …Reddit is the opposite of Republican. The people there are aggressively far left. It is hard to believe that it’s not an artificially enforced echo chamber.

        The problem with echo chambers is that they are politically sterile. By aggressively forcing Republicans and moderates off the platform, we lose the ability to influence their stances and opinions. It becomes a circle jerk.

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          No. Get out.

          I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”

          And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

          Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”

          And i was like, ohok and he continues.

          "you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

          And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

          And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”

          And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.

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      I got a 3 day ban yesterday for “threatening violence or harm” for posting about OP breaking both his arms in a thread bringing up past reddit memes. I had left reddit for almost two years before being drawn back in for a handful miscellaneous subs. I don’t think I’ll be going back.

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        Lol.

        I literally just got suspended 15 minutes ago for promoting violence for pointing out that America is going to see a rise in terrorism going forward for our actions in the middle east.

        No call to violence. A simple statement of fact.

        I know how to circumvent Reddit’s methods for keeping me out, so I’m already back in with a new account. I have a browser script that re-adds all my subs for me. And I know I’m not shadowbanned cuz I know how to check that. This’ll probably be my 50-70th Reddit account in the last decade. Which means Reddit has been trying and failing to keep me off their platform for a decade. I don’t even care that it’s just a 3 day suspension. I’m not going to be silenced for 3 days.

        Fuck Reddit.

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    Nobody knows yet what triggered the ban. It could have been an automatic system, a moderator decision, or even some glitch with account verification. Reddit has not said a word about it.

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    I just want to say that I know people who have known Paul for many years, and every single one of them have nothing but good things to say about him. He knows people want to catch him doing jerk behavior, so he bends over backwards to be polite and respectful to EVERYBODY. He’s a Righteous Dude.

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      Unfortunately my first association is the “Glass Walls” ad that was hammered into my brain hundreds of times before I learned to block them.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTifP6idBPs

      No, Paul, do you think slaughterhouse employees are even more likely to be vegetarian? Good intentions, but so infuriating.

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        I’m a carnivore, but I respect reasonable vegetarian/vegans. I’ll take a rock star taking a stand like that over Lars attacking music fans because they love music too much.

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          Lars? Lars Ulrich of Metallica fame? Why would he get mad over fans liking music? When did this happen? The Napster case, while bullshit, at least had something of a leg to stand on but this is just absurd.

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          I remember a study from a few decades ago that said pirates are often spending MORE on media than non-pirates, because they’re able to branch out and experiment with more media, then buy the media, instead of sticking to what they know and just buying the same old shit. I don’t know how to explain it. But pirates tend to spend more than non-pirates, allegedly. I’ll try to find the study.

          found something already: https://www.vice.com/en/article/study-again-shows-pirates-tend-to-be-the-biggest-buyers-of-legal-content/

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            Thats exactly what happened back in the “Home taping is killing music” era of the 80s. The record companies were insisting on high taxes on blank tapes, which they wanted to collect to compensate for lost revenue on mix tapes and such.

            So they funded a study to prove their case, and the study found that those who did the most taping were also the ones who bought the most music. These people loved music so much that after they spent most of their disposable money on albums, they spent the remainder on blank tapes to get even more music.

            Home tapers turned out to be the strongest music fans, and biggest customers, and unsurprisingly, they discovered the same thing decades later with downloaders.

            That kind of kills their rationalizations for the draconian punishments they were demanding.

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        Wow, it was tough to watch that whole video. I hope things have improved since then, although I’m sure in a lot of places they haven’t.

        Eat less meat and if you do eat meat, pay extra for pasture raised animal products.

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          Some things get better, others get worse. It’s never a bad day to give up animal products.

          If you’d like to donate to a group that’s fighting for these animals check out thehumaneleague.org.

          💚💚💚

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        Yes, I’ve been getting very bad vibes from that place for a while now. It seems very filtered and the content is no longer reflective of what people upvote. It’s tracking more to corporate interests and propaganda. Also, I think a lot of people have unintentionally divulged their most private information and don’t even know it. Their innermost thought expressed in comments, likes dislikes cataloged in votes, all under the false sense of an anonymity. It would be very easy, especially now with AI, to link IPs, browser thumbprints, and writing style analysis back to individual people, at a mass scale. I think a reckoning is coming.

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      I imagine the site’s bot-detectors had a false positive (imagine that!). McCartney’s account had only posted once before and then remained dormant for a number of years. Suddenly, the account woke up again and surely must have gained an unusually rapid number of upvotes due to the celebrity status and the fandom subreddit. Looking at this data without any context, white-listing of accounts, or human eyes, this could potentially trigger their automated ban system. Additionally/alternatively, sharing Dropbox links seems to be an unspoken no-no on the site?

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      Nobody knows yet what triggered the ban. It could have been an automatic system, a moderator decision, or even some glitch with account verification. Reddit has not said a word about it.

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        A moderator cannot BAN your account. They can ban you from posting on their subreddit, and can, often baselessly, get you reported to admins (who 100% of the time side with the moderators), usually flagging any kind of modmail conduct as “threatening or harassment”.

        I’ve literally got a warning because I dared to ask a mod why they banned me - their response being a 30 day mute and a report to the admins about “Hey! I was wondering why you banned me, as I don’t think my comment broke any of the rules of the sub or Reddit” being threatening, and harassment…

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        I’ve been temp banned from Reddit multiple times now, for simply opposing genocide & war on behalf of Israel. People getting banned from Reddit should be seen as a badge of honor & means they’re likely doing something right.

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        Under… what? Those “places” crossed fascism line a decade ago. Marasmus line a few years ago. What additional regulation do you want? VIN number of the user’s ass?

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          Can a restaurant send you out for discussing something the owner doesn’t like? Not here at least (as long as you aren’t bothering other customers / respecting the house rules).

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            A restaurant owner can kick you out for not liking your colors. They rarely do because it’s bad for business.

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            The oldest rule of this restaurant: do not discuss whatever the owner dislikes.

            Next rule: respect the house rules.

            Also a rather old rule: we will send you out for disrespecting the house rules.

            New rule: no boiled carrots in any dish!

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    Removed by moderator

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    Gotcha! This comment has not been removed… Probably.

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    I got banned from a bunch of Reddit subs for once telling someone they were wrong about the Yorkshire accent in the UK. They called me a liar about being British and then I got banned from like 30 places at once.

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      Sounds like you were a dick and didn’t realize and doubled down. No way to tell now.

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        What a bold and insulting statement to make with absolutely no information to back it up.

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        I got banned from about 15 subreddits I never even knew existed once by calling out a transphobic dogwhistle, and when I inquired about the bans, the mods insinuated I was a child molester and neo-nazi.

        Reddit mods don’t need to follow any sort of logic.

        And confidently asserting someone is a dick because they got banned from a subreddit is hilarious, and should probably prompt some self-reflection.

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          There sure are cases of injust behavior by power tripping mods. That being said just presuming guilt and malice is unfair to the volunteers taking care of reddit today.

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            The appropriate way to take care of Reddit is to shut it down, sell all its assets and donate the proceeds to blind dogs, imprison every paid member of staff, put their families into foster homes (if any of them aren’t incels), bulldoze their dwellings, salt their fields, and systematically delete anything online that they ever uploaded.

            Then dunk the shareholders’ heads one by one in a bucket of horse piss, duration of dunking in proportion to the number of shares held.

            I know it’s milder than they deserve, but you gotta start somewhere.

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        You could have just not typed anything and everything and everyone would have been better off for it.

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      I got banned from one of the UK subreddits when someone posted a lengthy comment about why Brexit was amazing, and I responded that Brexit was idiotic. I got banned for “being political” and the person I was responding to didn’t lol.

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      We have that plenty on Lemmy and Piefed too. I recently noticed that @MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com banned me from a bunch of communities because I’d expressed a dislike of the use of generative AI for images somewhere. Hilariously petty.

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        The insanely ironic text of this removed comment:

        We have that plenty on Lemmy and Piefed too. I recently noticed that @MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com banned me from a bunch of communities because I’d expressed a dislike of the use of generative Al for images somewhere. Hilariously petty.

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        Yeah so the AI haters have doxxed them, posted their photos on Lemmy, and harassed them non stop.

        But you got banned, that’s rough buddy.

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            It’s pretty straightforward, they’ve been targeted and doxxed and harassed by anti ai trolls on Lemmy. You probably downvoted some posts in their comms, contributing to this and got banned.

            If it’s a comm that doesn’t interest you, why are you even going on about it a month later to shit talk the user?

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              why are you even going on about it a month later to shit talk the user?

              Why did I mention something relevant to the conversation? That’s your question?

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                You could have easily done so without directly linking them. That adds nothing except pushing your vendetta and directing more harassment at them.

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                  I don’t have a vendetta. I’m entirely ignorant of the context you’re describing. I got blanket banned from a series of communities by aforementioned user for (presumably) downvoting. I’m not really very interested in continuing this.

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        Yes that happens, for some reason that user actively goes to FuckAI and bans people who posted there. I can only assume that they see disdain for AI as a personal slight.

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        Plenty of .ml related moderators on other groups as well that will ban users on lemmy as well because of .ml bs.

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      I got a “permanent suspension” from all of Reddit. Isn’t a suspension temporary, wouldn’t a permanent suspension just be a ban?

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        Maybe it’s the difference between undoable or not undoable.

        If you think about it, when a judge gives you a “suspended sentence” for a crime, it is permanently suspended meaning there is no set expiry. But it can be made to expire if needed.

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      That tracks. You pissed off someone who had a connection with a mod and/or admin. Been there!

      I got banned once for dunking on IG travel trends and the mod involved was dumb enough to PM me threatening me.

      It’s just pathetic how emotional and over reactive people saying crap on the internet they don’t like. I don’t agree with a lot of stuff but I see no reason to censor people for enjoying musicals or whatever else I hate.

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        I once got banned in a bunch of subs, including some I wasn’t even in, because a mod didn’t like a comment I made in a sub that wasn’t even theirs. They just didn’t like it, so they banned me in all the subs they modded. Fucking weirdos.

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        Considering all mods are probably mirrors of antiwork mod the entire world got to see - zero surprises there.

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          You see, I never had a single comment moderated by the anti-work people, and I made a lot, a lot of them very extreme comments. Like illegally so. But many other subs I have had that same problem. I used to use revveddit to see which Subs were secretly silencing me, which included pics, and so many others. Mostly Auto mod bullshit I presume. Auto mod which I trust is corrupted by the government for Israel and a number of other issues.

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            Referring more to physical looks and lifestyle of the head mod there.

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      I got a sitewide warning a couple of months ago for suggesting that Trump’s inaugural “board of peace” meeting was the apotheosis of the “you have one bullet…” thought experiment. “After reviewing, we found that you broke Rule 1 because you threatened violence or physical harm.” I’ll wager Trump’s secret service guys were absolutely shitting themselves when they read it, so it’s probably for the best they took it down tbf.

      On the bright side, it was the kick up the backside that was needed to get me to try Lemmy, and I hardly use Reddit at all now.

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        I replaced every one of my comments and posts with lorem ipsum before I terminated my accounts.

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    Got banned from some subs once because the editing software I was using to sanitize and delete my account hadn’t yet removed an edited comment.

    Mod quoted it. Sent it to me and said this makes no sense. Banned.

    The comment being edited was 4 years old.

    Lmfao

    Idiot mods gonna idiot.

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        Why limit to one aspect? Mastodon (announcements) + Pixelfed (photos of the concerts) + Lemmy/PieFed (fan discussion) + PeerTube (videos of the concerts) + Loops (shorts about the concerts and announcements) + …

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            You kid but it literally starts this way. Imagine if someone like Paul McCartney says, “I’m moving over to mastodon and you should too.”

            He starts to share exclusive content there, sharing videos on loops…

            People will stop going to other places.

            But the content has to come first.

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            Why depend on someone else’s mood when it’s your business? Videos on Youtube, fanpage on Reddit or Facebook, short videos on TikTok, news on X, … : they can pull the plug whenever they like.

            With the Fediverse you can create a personal instance only for your business.

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      The other night I was watching John Stewart and he made an interesting comment. He said that reddit only recently became usable because it was too gross before. Insane especially from him

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      Reddit has a lot of established local community subreddits, and when you are that established, its hard to give up.

      Disclaimer: I was just banned on a second account after being found out for my first ban (I said some things with, well, lets say “high praxis”) and I am not happy about it.

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        I was banned for prohibited content on my “other accounts.”

        I only have one account. (Appeal was denied, and I suspect the entire operation was done by bots. It literally said, “go look at your other accounts to see what you did wrong.”)

        Meanwhile, another user over there is advocating violence against a very well known public figure (I’m sure you can guess what and who), and the comment is still up and the poster is not banned. -throws up hands-

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          i got first permabanned by a mod from r/news for commenting “when a terrorist hides in a school full of children it is not ok to blow up the school with the children still in it” under an article about IDF doing just that while hunting for some hamas fighters (no warning, no previous infractions, straight permaban, reason: “you broke the community rules” - no further explanation). it hurt a bit cause i did not participate in any political discussions normally. but shortly after that there was a picture of WW2 nazi flag on someone’s front yard in ohio and people started suggesting that someone should bring a veteran to this person to explain them the error of their ways. i didn’t resist and responded that this person knows exactly what they are doing and they do it cause there are no consequences to it. i also wrote that somebody should “tar and feather them and chase them around” - after which my account got restricted cause “we are trying to create a community where everyone can feel safe and therefore we cannot tolerate calls for violence against others”.

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          yea its definitely bot/AI moderation on reddit, reddit wont scale back this, due to them having less work to appeal to all those bans.

          All also you know the ban is done by a AI/bot is if gives a generic message like “your other accounts violated,this or that” instead of the ban telling which community you got banned in.

          reddit doesnt go after propaganda bots, as far as ive observed they target only the ones they cant benefit from(OF accounts, people who connect thier posts thier business".

          and right wing propaganda is quite lucrative right now.

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          I’m guessing this public figure is someone with…questionable involvement in current affairs, or is not aligned with Conservative interests?

          Yep checks out.

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      Because there are still a lot of content creators, especially in the technology field.If the process of sharing code and projects and receiving feedback took place on another platform, nobody would use Reddit.That’s my only reason.

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      I say fuck Reddit and Lemmy too for not providing the tools to audit modderators. Like we need a removed post/comment/account graveyard where anyone can review and inspect what is being removed with the reasons as to why so that we can have assurance mods are not abusing. Like it is such a simple problem to solve , yet no one wants to implement and thus, here we are.

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        Aren’t you just describing a modlog? The only annoying feature is that mod name is obscured so you have to jump a couple hoops to find who did what and whether they still are mods.

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          Oh yeah. That is sort of what I was envisioning. It is not really feature complete, but a step in the right direction. Thanks for that link. At least Lemmy is trying versus Reddit that lets it fester.

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            Oh hey, yeah, been this way for at least 4 month since… you’ve permabanned me off people twitter 😂 Mind lifting that?